Do other health professions value us?

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goodb29

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Do you think other professions value us as professionals? Does the PharmD help us? Sometimes i feel like we dont get enough credit for all the good that we do. Any thoughts?
 
I heard that pharmacists argue with doctors a lot. But that because doctors are arrogant and stubborn 😀

So I don't think the medicine people think too highly of us since they think our field is much easier...that's just my observation...but I could be wrong...
 
goodb29 said:
Do you think other professions value us as professionals? Does the PharmD help us? Sometimes i feel like we dont get enough credit for all the good that we do. Any thoughts?

This post along with the "will robots and techs replace us" makes me feel like you're trolling.
 
Does it honestly matter? You're seldom be able to control what someone thinks about you, so who cares if the patient thinks you're a glorified encyclopedia or the doctors look down on you even when you save their collective butts. 😀
 
goodb29 said:
Do you think other professions value us as professionals? Does the PharmD help us? Sometimes i feel like we dont get enough credit for all the good that we do. Any thoughts?

I can honestly say it depends on yourself. How can you value someone that you dont know? If you know more than the doctor, the nurse, and whoever is out there, obviously they are going to respect you. In terms of who is the money maker, the pharmacist alone can do more than you think.

Clinicians and pharmacists might argue a lot, but its relatively more like a mother son relationship.
 
Aznfarmerboi said:
I can honestly say it depends on yourself. How can you value someone that you dont know? If you know more than the doctor, the nurse, and whoever is out there, obviously they are going to respect you. In terms of who is the money maker, the pharmacist alone can do more than you think.

Clinicians and pharmacists might argue a lot, but its relatively more like a mother son relationship.

Did you struggle to make that as incoherent as humanly possible?
Worst statements, and analogies - ever.
 
Aznfarmerboi said:
I can honestly say it depends on yourself. How can you value someone that you dont know? If you know more than the doctor, the nurse, and whoever is out there, obviously they are going to respect you. In terms of who is the money maker, the pharmacist alone can do more than you think.

Clinicians and pharmacists might argue a lot, but its relatively more like a mother son relationship.

wtf?

okay, first of all being a part of a medical team is not a knowledge pissing contest like you make it out to be

Secondly, no one is given respect. I don't care if you are a glorious DOCTOR of PHARMACY or Medicine, or a nurse or whatever. Respect is earned. I also don't respect people simply because they know more than me.

Also, if you are going to make the analogy like you did, you forgot one key element. The Patient. Even so, it still doesn't make any sense.
 
Aznfarmerboi said:
I can honestly say it depends on yourself. How can you value someone that you dont know? If you know more than the doctor, the nurse, and whoever is out there, obviously they are going to respect you. In terms of who is the money maker, the pharmacist alone can do more than you think.

Clinicians and pharmacists might argue a lot, but its relatively more like a mother son relationship.
yeah....
no
 
Yeah - I honestly feel I am very respected and no, I don't feel my Pharm.D. is the source of that respect. I've worked a very long time and I've been thanked over and over by patients, prescribers, nurses & even custodians & clerks who have stopped me in the hall to ask a drug question. But, I would agree with the person who mentioned above that you must earn respect - it doesn't come with the degree.

I had an interesting situation a month ago when I had to accompany my mom to an anticoagulation clinic visit. She had suffered a pulmonary embolus & this was her first post hospital visit. Now...she is 87, had a previous thrombolic event which required anticoagulation for a year & my dad had been on warfarin for 6 years, so she was very knowledgeable, but had never been to an anticoag clinic. This young pharmacist did not take ANY history on my mom - she just took the labwork & proceeded to advise a dose change & second visit. When my mom asked when the MD would call her (which is what she was used to), the pharmacist proceeded to tell her MDs didn't know how to dose warfarin & pharmacists did it much better. Now...how much respect do you think you would get telling an 87yo that her MD of 35 years didn't know how to dose warfarin (which he had done very adequately before)?

This pharmacist graduated from USC 3 years ago (no reflection on USC at all!!!), but she did not have the ability to get her expertise across in a confident manner & without reflecting negatively on a physician. She had all the academic & clinical skills, but not the interpersonal skills. Just a few questions might have elicited more information which could have been expanded upon and reinforced and not resulted in a defensive posture.

The point of this very long (too long!!) post, IMO, is to be secure that what you know and the service you perform is valued even if it is not openly acknowledged. Be sure to take the time to talk WITH patients & other professionals, not TO them. Finally, I feel we should learn to be humble. I'll never know cardiac drugs better than an interventional cardiologist, neonatal drugs better than a neonatal ICU pharmacist, how fast cisplatin will produce nausea than a chemo unit nurse or so many other examples too numerous to count. We are important spokes in the healthcare wheel, but just one spoke. (Again.....apologies for the length!)
 
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