DO School most like MD school?

[deleted407021]

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I have, and all of us should have, a problem with these chain-style, "money-printing" (as serenade terms them) DO schools that use the "training more PCP's" line to justify their existence, their huge class sizes, and their de-emphasis on research. They dump out countless graduates, while doing little or nothing to advance or contribute to the profession. Simply pumping out doctors like a factory assembly line is not "contributing".

I think this is what people mean when using the terms "money priting" "chain" "neo-carib" or "Walmart" schools. They disgrace us.

okay, I get what you're saying but...I'm just pointing out that there are schools that don't put much effort into research, which by this point has been reiterated ad nauseam.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

okay, I get what you're saying but...I'm just pointing out that there are schools that don't put much effort into research, which by this point has been reiterated ad nauseam.

Yah, I'm just saying as a whole it strengthens the profession.

I have, and all of us should have, a problem with these chain-style, "money-printing" (as serenade terms them) DO schools that use the "training more PCP's" line to justify their existence, their huge class sizes, and their de-emphasis on research. They dump out countless graduates, while doing little or nothing to advance or contribute to the profession. Simply pumping out new doctors is not "contributing".

I think this is what people mean when using the terms "money priting" "chain" "neo-carib" or "Walmart" schools. They disgrace us.

Heh, that's another conversation entirely to be honest. But it adds into the discussion I suppose. A few DO schools really milk the "Serving primary care problems" as rational for really shady education such as impoverished rotations handled by nurses.

 

[deleted407021]

Yah, I'm just saying as a whole it strengthens the profession.




Heh, that's another conversation entirely to be honest. But it adds into the discussion I suppose. A few DO schools really milk the "Serving primary care problems" as rational for really shady education such as impoverished rotations handled by nurses.

Can I get some names so I know which schools to avoid?

 

[allantois]

Can I get some names so I know which schools to avoid?

I've read that students at LECOM (Bradenton) have to find their own rotations.

 

[user3]

Yah, I'm just saying as a whole it strengthens the profession.




Heh, that's another conversation entirely to be honest. But it adds into the discussion I suppose. A few DO schools really milk the "Serving primary care problems" as rational for really shady education such as impoverished rotations handled by nurses.

your opinions on these matters seem to have moderated some- I miss your scathing criticisms.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

I've read that students at LECOM (Bradenton) have to find their own rotations.

LECOM is a complicated system. But it works.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

your opinions on these matters seem to have moderated some- I miss your scathing criticisms.

I'll return to that when I'm enrolled and in medical school. Until then I'm avoiding getting myself a cat in the hat.

 

[AlteredScale]

I've read that students at LECOM (Bradenton) have to find their own rotations.

Yeah my friend is OMS III there right now. What's cool is you can really go anywhere for rotating. What sucks is quality. He thought one of his clerkships was in the wards but it turned out to be a community clinic.

 

[j4pac]

I've read that students at LECOM (Bradenton) have to find their own rotations.

Not exactly.

Bradenton has a ton of smaller affiliates. I did all of my training at either military sites or in the state of Florida. Many students decide to go up to PA for rotations. There are some drawbacks to having smaller affiliates...but I think that there are also some advantages.

The downside: A smaller affiliate is more likely to cancel on you. This can be abated by calling the smaller site two weeks before the rotations started. I can say with certainty that 5 minutes calling a site was not a huge time investment and it saved me once. I found out that I was dropped from the rotation...called clinical education and had plenty of time to reschedule. It takes some initiative...and that is something that some folks don't have. You don't see as much RARE pathology in smaller sites. Again...for me it wasn't a big deal because I didn't care about learning about rare pathology in most of my rotations. I wanted to be great at bread and butter medicine and be competent at testable material...and LECOM met that goal.

The upside: Opposed to going to a single hospital throughout your clinic years...going to multiple hospitals teach you about different hospital processes. You get to learn different types of note writing systems/EMRS...and that will all be useful knowledge in the real world. It also offers flexibility. If you wanted to do audition rotations in the Northeast...LECOM Bradenton would allow you if it was an affiliate. LECOM students compared to most DO students 1) get great COMLEX and USMLE scores and 2) Get great residency opportunities. Much of that #2 is due to their great board scores...but also due to flexibility in schedule.

My wife (a recent LECOM-B grad) was able to do many rotations in the city I was stationed for her 4th year. That would not have been possibly if not for LECOM's flexibility. She also landed a very strong residency...her #1 rank...partly due to LECOM's flexibility.

You have to take the good with the bad. If you are not motivated and need to be spoonfed during every stage of your life...do NOT go to LECOM.

 

[Seth Joo]

PCOM has a reputation of being called the most MD DO school.

I heard this is true, PCOM has a lot of AOA residency programs, and I heard they are among the best DO residency training programs.

 

[psychic_hearts]

LECOM is a complicated system. But it works.

serenade, do you think a lecom-b student would be able to do their last 2 years entirely in miami or fort laud or palm beaches.. looking to stay in south florida entirely for last 2 years.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

serenade, do you think a lecom-b student would be able to do their last 2 years entirely in miami or fort laud or palm beaches.. looking to stay in south florida entirely for last 2 years.

Wiser to ask a LECOM-B student lol. I'm completely unfamiliar with their affiliated hospitals. But I imagine that it probably won't happen.

 

[Sweetpotatoguy]

If you like cold calling, you can set them all up in the area of your choice

I'm a LECOM-B student

 

[psychic_hearts]

If you like cold calling, you can set them all up in the area of your choice

I'm a LECOM-B student

sweet thanks so much. sounds like a good back up if i don't get to do one of their fort lauderdale core rotation sites... they have a few south florida ones right? i remember wellington and a few others were listed on their website; wasn't sure if they added any more or had plans to

 

[bristlz]

speaking of MSUCOM, just read that they are increasing their class size to ~350(!!!). crazy...

Just to be clear, the dean applied and was approved for an increase in class size. However, there are no plans to increase class sizes right now.