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You see, there's a problem with the, "Just apply and find out" mentality. It costs $1,100 to apply. I can't afford to just throw that away and hope for the best.
 
Originally posted by JKDMed
You see, there's a problem with the, "Just apply and find out" mentality. It costs $1,100 to apply. I can't afford to just throw that away and hope for the best.
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You don't have to apply to 20 schools though. If you narrow down the list wisely, it doesn't cost nearly that much.
 
Oops pressed the submit button to early 😀

Anyway, a 3.1-3.34 is decent, especially if your overall GPA is in good standing as well. Study well for the MCATS too.

:edit: By the way, I am only sure of the overall matriculated GPA for my class, it was 3.5 cumulative, 3.44 science, and 3.52 non-science. Keep in mind that there are people who fall on both sides of the average.
 
it depends what your overall GPA and MCAT is.

if they are pretty good then i say apply


my science GPA was a 3.45 and i was accepted

the point is that if you show them that you want to be a physicina then you will be

i have my thoeries about why my application was good even with the "low" science GPA

PM me si u want to know why
 
Originally posted by JKDMed
Are these the AACOMAS GPA's?
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Don't know...most likely. What's your major? Do your other classes help w/ your cumulative GPA?
 
Psychology is my major, and I may double major in Philosophy, but will minor in it.

My non-science gpa is almost a 3.4. I'm just trying to decide if it's worth spending the $1,100 this year.
 
Have you taken the MCAT yet? If you're doing the April one, you can decide after you get your scores back. Don't forget to budget in the cost for secondaries 😛
 
3.35 GPA (3.45 AACOMAS) with an F, accepted everywhere I interviewed. I finished with a 3.72 over my last three years and graduated cum laude though, so the whole upward trend thing is right on.
 
I really don't have a trend. Overall it has decreased because I started doing a lot of **** my junior year, but it only dropped by about 0.01 of a point those two years.

Freshman: 3.30
Sophomore: 3.45
Junior: 3.38
Senior: 3.36?
 
JKD, I personally wouldn't worry too much about the overall science GPA but I would consider retaking the orgo (if you have time). I think your original orgo grade would be masked on the DO app. Just my opinion because that's exactly what I did and it helped me get in.
Although that doesn't seem to be the overall concensus of this board.
 
JKDMED,
I got a C and C+ in orgo I and II, a C+ in Bio I, and a C+ in Physics II. I got a few A's to make up for it, but my science gpa was surely not very high. However, I've gotten accepted to two schools already so i think you're money as long as your other $h!t is good.
 
Take some other science classes to boost it up.....I took Astronomy and Psychopharmacology and they were very easy and helped boost my gpa.

also, I worked in a neurochemistry lab and was able to take a research directed study course directly under my boss. I did this for four semesters, and my boss gave me an A every time. This not only gives you high science grades, but you can use this person as a science rec like I did. You should see if your school has a similar program.
 
even graduating with 2 years of nearly straight A's, freshman year definitely left its mark on my gpa.

--praying for nycom--
 
The AACOM web site shows average GPAs, MCATs, etc, by year. That'll show you exactly where you stand as far as that info goes:


http://www.aacom.org/data/annualreport/index.html

then go to page 28

Average GPA in 2001:
Non-Science: 3.5
Science: 3.36

MCAT, etc, on the same page.
 
Originally posted by HoodyHoo
Take some other science classes to boost it up.....I took Astronomy and Psychopharmacology and they were very easy and helped boost my gpa.

also, I worked in a neurochemistry lab and was able to take a research directed study course directly under my boss. I did this for four semesters, and my boss gave me an A every time. This not only gives you high science grades, but you can use this person as a science rec like I did. You should see if your school has a similar program.
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Does that **** count as a science credit? Psychopharm would count as a major requirement for me, but it's in the PSYC department. AACOM stated that in order to be counted as a science, it depended upon the department. I assumed since the dept was PSYC it wouldn't count.
 
Well, I was going to do a double major in psych/philosophy, but to be honest, I'm really tired of undergrad. I'm 22 already and haven't even started my career. I'm just gonna take the 3 classes I need to finish a chem minor and, hopefully, go on to med school.

The big question, however, is what to do:

This semester I have organic II, physics II, and physics I lab. If I make an "A" in all three, my science gpa goes up to 3.3. If I add a chem class and make an "A", it goes up to 3.37. However, 3 science lectures and a lab may be too much, especially since it's physics II, ochem II, and I'm taking the MCAT in April. What do you guys think?
 
So, we're talking about a 0.07 difference here, with the presumption that you'll get A's in all 4 classes, while studying for the MCAT halfway into the semester. Talk about busting your balls! This will only make you more burnt out, and you really don't want to feel unmotivated for the MCAT. Maybe you can move that 4th chem class to the summer?
 
Originally posted by JKDMed
This semester I have organic II, physics II, and physics I lab. If I make an "A" in all three, my science gpa goes up to 3.3. If I add a chem class and make an "A", it goes up to 3.37. However, 3 science lectures and a lab may be too much, especially since it's physics II, ochem II, and I'm taking the MCAT in April. What do you guys think?
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Yikes, an A in all of those sciences at the sam time you are studying for the MCAT. You aren't setting yourself up for a big disappointment are you? I mean, if you can get A's in all those while tackling the MCAT, then more power to you. But that is going to be a huge challenge.

Good luck!!!!!!!!
 
I ended up not adding another science lecture, but threw physics II lab in there. So I'm taking Physics II, Organic II (again), Physics I Lab, and Physics II Lab. I also added a psych class I have been putting off since my sophomore year -- psych. statistics 🙁 This semester is boring enough, so I might as well get it over with.

On the bright side, I may not have to attend during the summer this way. Here's my schedule now:

Physics II
Organic Chemistry II
Physics I Lab
Physics II Lab
National Security Policies of the U.S. (general ed)
Psychological Statistics

A total of 14 hours. Shouldn't be too bad. Now, hopefully I can pull this off, get an acceptance letter, and graduate in December.
 
Originally posted by JKDMed
3.45 isn't a low science gpa.
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well that was the AACOMAS GPA. u should see my AMCAS GPA - boy was that much lower. and I was jsut stating what my stupid pre-med advisor at school told me("dont even bother trying 2 get in...yada, yada, yada)


i guess i forgot 2 say that u can "pad" your GPA with courses that are not really considered science courses(on the AACOMAS guide) but that have science content.

for example....computer science courses that have math content, or natural science courses that have biology content


that is how i brought my GPA out of the gutter it was in:clap:
 
Originally posted by HoodyHoo
Take some other science classes to boost it up.....I took Astronomy and Psychopharmacology and they were very easy and helped boost my gpa.

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see my prev post......if u list them as science courses that is ok

they say that if u list incorectly (ie, not following their guide of how 2 classify your classes) then they may change it back 2 a non-science class.....but i streched the definition of waht a science class is on both the AACOMAS and the AMCAS (and AMCAS is supposed 2 be more strict in theyr requirements) and neither of them changed they way i ranked my classes:clap:

so pad your GPA if u can, and if not still apply
 
AACOMAS doesn't count math in the science gpa right? I have looked into "padding" my science GPA, but there's really no way to do it without extending my academic stay into the Spring.

As it is, with A's in two lectures and two labs, my science GPA will be a 3.32. Do you guys think this is ok? Cumulative a 3.36, non-science I have no idea, probably a 3.4-3.6. If I can fit in one of the chemistry classes for my minor in the summer, then I can probably get it up to a 3.4 before they review files.

I will probably make a 26-30 on the MCAT.

My EC's are good, LOR's are mixed -- a couple really good, a couple mediocre (I don't know any science dudes). Clinical experience is a little lacking, but I got enough of it growing up with a live-in relative who went through lung cancer, another through alzheimer's, and an EMT as a father. I have shadowed twice, and volunteered in a hospital, which I may or may not do more of.
 
To answer my own question, taken from the AACOMAS help website:

"Compute your GPA and credit hour totals for science, non-science, and combined, as well as by year. The Science category would include all courses with subjects of Biology, Organic, Biochemistry, Other Science, Physics, and Inorganic Chemistry. Non-science would include courses with subjects of Math, English, Behavioral Sciences, and Non-science."

ERGO, math does not count in your science GPA.

I also must have screwed up somewhere calculating my science GPA, because it's actually a 3.23
 
Originally posted by HoodyHoo
Take some other science classes to boost it up.....I took Astronomy and Psychopharmacology and they were very easy and helped boost my gpa.

also, I worked in a neurochemistry lab and was able to take a research directed study course directly under my boss. I did this for four semesters, and my boss gave me an A every time. This not only gives you high science grades, but you can use this person as a science rec like I did. You should see if your school has a similar program.
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Are you sure research counts for science? If this is true then that is amazing.
 
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