Do they ever un-accept someone?

[clinick]

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Since being accepted at Tulane Med, I have almost no desire to do work. I barely studied for finals and don't expect to be working very hard my last semester as an undergraduate either. So here is the question -
Do medical schools ever un-accept someone? Assuming I graduate, how poorly can I do my last semester? Can I start making C's?

 

[stinkycheese]

Since being accepted at Tulane Med, I have almost no desire to do work. I barely studied for finals and don't expect to be working very hard my last semester as an undergraduate either. So here is the question -
Do medical schools ever un-accept someone? Assuming I graduate, how poorly can I do my last semester? Can I start making C's?

In the Tulane acceptance letter, it clearly says that you have to finish your undergrad degree with the same level of peformance that was the basis for your acceptance. I am not taking any chances; a few B's won't kill you, but I wouldn't start making C's unless you really want to do the AMCAS 2006.

 

[Ol'DocToxic]

A cautionary tale...

I graduated from college quite a few years ago. Midway through my senior year I applied to a bunch of PhD programs and got into my school of choice. This was in early February. Life was great and I was all set. I didn't exactly slack off, but I kind of coasted in a few classes and ended up getting a C in the physics class I took spring semester of my senior year. Now I am applying to medical schools and guess what I get to explain in EVERY DAMN INTERVIEW I will have to go to...

You never know. Work hard.

 

[avinash]

Since being accepted at Tulane Med, I have almost no desire to do work. I barely studied for finals and don't expect to be working very hard my last semester as an undergraduate either. So here is the question -
Do medical schools ever un-accept someone? Assuming I graduate, how poorly can I do my last semester? Can I start making C's?

Hey you worked soo hard for soo long right? why give it up to a silly C now? Come on, its not worth it. Stick with B's and above.

 

[Long_John]

Since being accepted at Tulane Med, I have almost no desire to do work. I barely studied for finals and don't expect to be working very hard my last semester as an undergraduate either. So here is the question -
Do medical schools ever un-accept someone? Assuming I graduate, how poorly can I do my last semester? Can I start making C's?

some residencies look at your college grades, so the answer is you really can't slack off (or at least not that much)

 

[Cerberus]

A few C's isn't going to kill you. Just don't make a ton of C's

 

[MWillie]

Does anyone know why last year that student was unaccepted from Davis, I forgot his name?

 

[avinash]

i hope not....

 

[icecream4me]

Since being accepted at Tulane Med, I have almost no desire to do work. I barely studied for finals and don't expect to be working very hard my last semester as an undergraduate either. So here is the question -
Do medical schools ever un-accept someone? Assuming I graduate, how poorly can I do my last semester? Can I start making C's?

I'm not sure about grades (although I do agree that some residencies look at your undergrad transcript), but I do know of someone who was caught on an ethics violation after being accepted to med school, had a mark on his transcript, and then was "un-accepted" from med school after they had been notified (not sure how).

 

[X.O.]

Does anyone know why last year that student was unaccepted from Davis, I forgot his name?

Whatever happened to that guy? Probably the most F'd up nightmare that could happen.

 

[Pinkertinkle]

Whatever happened to that guy? Probably the most F'd up nightmare that could happen.

That was Jlee, whose reapplying this year. I never did find out what happened.

 

[X.O.]

That was Jlee, whose reapplying this year. I never did find out what happened.

That sounds familiar. The guy had multiple acceptances, comitted to UC Davis, and then they dumped him a couple days before orientation. Thats about as screwed up as it gets.

 

[premedgeek]

That sounds familiar. The guy had multiple acceptances, comitted to UC Davis, and then they dumped him a couple days before orientation. Thats about as screwed up as it gets.

For reasons relating to grades?

 

[Long_John]

That sounds familiar. The guy had multiple acceptances, comitted to UC Davis, and then they dumped him a couple days before orientation. Thats about as screwed up as it gets.

you have a link to the thread on this. i really want to see what happened.

 

[Arsenic]

Since being accepted at Tulane Med, I have almost no desire to do work. I barely studied for finals and don't expect to be working very hard my last semester as an undergraduate either. So here is the question -
Do medical schools ever un-accept someone? Assuming I graduate, how poorly can I do my last semester? Can I start making C's?

Be a good little applicant.... no slacking, no girls gone wild, no felonies, etc... 🙄

Seriously.... don't kill yourself for A's anymore, its ok to settle for B's now, you earned the room to slack.

 

[MrTee]

you have a link to the thread on this. i really want to see what happened.

Bump on this...I was wondering a while ago, and never did hear what happened.

 

[LauraMac]

so some residencies look at your college grades? for the love of god, i just want to start getting bad grades! oh well, i know i won't do it anyway... stupid dean's list.

 

[Cerberus]

For reasons relating to grades?

no, it had nothing to do with grades. I know the story but I don't think he'd like me telling everyone on sdn. Basically he got screwed for something that wasn't his fault and UCDavis are a bunch of ****ing douchebags.

 

[clinick]

Okay, so I won't be getting any C's this semester if there is a chance that my undergraduate grades will mean anything when its residency time..
Thanks for the advice. Bs and above.

 

[OSU03]

Absolutely your grades matter, all the way through. There are plenty of residencies that ask for undergraduate transcripts. There are even some that ask for SAT scores and MCAT scores.

Get used to having your entire life available for them to sift through.

 

[Blake]

so some residencies look at your college grades? for the love of god, i just want to start getting bad grades! oh well, i know i won't do it anyway... stupid dean's list.

I'm just a MS1, but I highly doubt any residency program really cares about what you did in college. That's for med school adcoms to care about, not residency programs.

 

[Sigma]

Okay, so I won't be getting any C's this semester if there is a chance that my undergraduate grades will mean anything when its residency time..
Thanks for the advice. Bs and above.

I'd go with the "You never know" theory.

Until I see someone produce information from a residency program that states "we need to see your u/g grades", I'm not going to believe they are needed. (Did you have any med school need to see your high school grades? Most likely not.)

However, you never know what odd thing could blindside you. Is a few months of screwing around really worth risking something hitting you later?

 

[mshheaddoc]

I'm just a MS1, but I highly doubt any residency program really cares about what you did in college. That's for med school adcoms to care about, not residency programs.

i would tend to agree ... med schools don't care for high school grades.

 

[OSU03]

For those who don't believe me, here are a few examples:

http://www.cwruortho.org/application.htm

http://www.umdnj.edu/orthnweb/resapp.html

For the most competitive residencies it is absolutely common to ask for undergrad transcripts. MCATs, undergrad grades, SATs, it is all FAIR GAME during residency. So like I said, get used to it dudes. And have a little faith in my posts...

 

[OSU03]

By the way, even if they don't ask for actual transcripts, lots will ask that you write down your undergrad GPA or SAT score. If you lie, I can guarantee you will be caught, so you have to be honest (as you always should be).

 

[Blake]

For those who don't believe me, here are a few examples:

http://www.cwruortho.org/application.htm

http://www.umdnj.edu/orthnweb/resapp.html

For the most competitive residencies it is absolutely common to ask for undergrad transcripts. MCATs, undergrad grades, SATs, it is all FAIR GAME during residency. So like I said, get used to it dudes. And have a little faith in my posts...

Weird, I keep reading some neurosurgery application forums and almost everyone says residency programs don't give a rat's ass about your college grades. Step 1, research, strong LORs, and pre-clinical grades make you competitive, not your grade in OChem 6 years ago.

 

[Tra La La]

Weird, I keep reading some neurosurgery application forums and almost everyone says residency programs don't give a rat's ass about your college grades. Step 1, research, strong LORs, and pre-clinical grades make you competitive, not your grade in OChem 6 years ago.

For real. It bothers me that some medical schools still dwell on high school rankings and GPAs (i.e., Baylor, WashU)...but residencies too?

Weird.

 

[OSU03]

When everyone applying has a 240+ Step 1, lots of honors, and publications, they have to figure out a way to screen. Everything is so competitive these days that these dudes are struggling to find ways to differentiate you from me. I personally think it is bogus, but then again I don't have a better plan.

Also, I just used ortho as one example. Derm, plastics, ENT, all those guys are using undergrad stuff now.

 

[flash]

I got a c+ in bio chem this past semester. It's a tough course where I come from, and missed a bunch of class managing interviews/work. Should I be worried? Letter on states acceptance contingent on "satisfactory completion of current coursework". I'm a post-bacc that is not taking anymore classes.

I know there is no answer to my question, but u guys suck for mentioning should aim for a B 😎

Send in final and official transcripts late or early as a result? Maybe I'll send it last after my undergrad schools.

 

[Blake]

I know there is no answer to my question, but u guys suck for mentioning should aim for a B 😎

It's up to you, and I actually slacked during my last semester in college. Well, I still had excellent grades in most courses, except physics. After getting my acceptances, I still wasn't 100 % sure I'd be going to med school, because my grades in physics 3 were just plain awful. Trust me, you want to rejoice when you get your acceptances, and not have to worry about a stupid course. I managed to save my ass by getting a B in physics in the end, acing the last exam 😳

 

[X.O.]

Generally, they only ask for stuff you did prior to medical school if youre applying for someting under the San Francisco early match. That covers ENT, Opthomalogy, plastics, and neurology.

Most everything else falls under the NRMP and the majority of programs dont ask for undergrad transcripts, MCATs, SATs or how fast you potty trained.

 

[Mistress S]

no, it had nothing to do with grades. I know the story but I don't think he'd like me telling everyone on sdn. Basically he got screwed for something that wasn't his fault and UCDavis are a bunch of ****ing douchebags.

I'm really sorry to hear that! Jlee was such a helpful presence on SDN, I knew he got accepted and figured he was just posting in the Allo forum now. I didn't know his acceptance got revoked. He seemed like such a nice person and always gave great advice, I hope things work out for him with the reapplication process.

 

[cytoborg]

By the way, even if they don't ask for actual transcripts, lots will ask that you write down your undergrad GPA or SAT score. If you lie, I can guarantee you will be caught, so you have to be honest (as you always should be).

Agreed. Have said it before, will say it again: your final undergrad GPA is stated in your dean's letter (or whatever PC name they are calling it these days) to residency programs, regardless of what match or what specialty you are applying to. Also, if you hope to get any scholarships or fellowships during med school, you'd better believe that 9 times out of 10 they will ask for the actual undergrad transcript. (Been there, done that.) Another reason not to slack off at the end is so you can graduate with honors and get other graduation awards from your department or college, which are great things to fill space on your CV.

 

[Jason110]

That was Jlee, whose reapplying this year. I never did find out what happened.

Yeah. I know the story but I'm sure JLee would appreciate me not telling anyone. Basically, it was not anything JLee could have avoided. It was completely out of his control. I never quite understood why Davis rescinded the acceptance when he did nothing. Those punks...

 

[derf]

Yeah. I know the story but I'm sure JLee would appreciate me not telling anyone. Basically, it was not anything JLee could have avoided. It was completely out of his control. I never quite understood why Davis rescinded the acceptance when he did nothing. Those punks...

how could they hold an applicant responsible if it was completely out of his control. if this is true, i would have sued.

 

[WatchingWaiting]

Agreed. Have said it before, will say it again: your final undergrad GPA is stated in your dean's letter (or whatever PC name they are calling it these days) to residency programs, regardless of what match or what specialty you are applying to. Also, if you hope to get any scholarships or fellowships during med school, you'd better believe that 9 times out of 10 they will ask for the actual undergrad transcript. (Been there, done that.) Another reason not to slack off at the end is so you can graduate with honors and get other graduation awards from your department or college, which are great things to fill space on your CV.

I suppose that there might be some med school that lists your undergrad gpa in your dean's letter, but I haven't heard of it. Your Dean's letter generally includes a summary of where you graduated undergrad from, in what field, and with what honors/awards you received, but not a specific statement of undergrad grades or gpa. Second, the VAST majority of residencies do not ask for your undergrad grades or MCAT or SAT or anything else. Of the VERY SMALL number who do (some neurosurgery programs, for example), your undergrad record would probably count something like 2% of your application score.

Some of the posts on this thread are truly absurd. 240 Step I, honors in most of his clerkships, first author paper in somewhat reputable neurosurgery journal, strong letters of rec, but 3.65 undergrad gpa, with a 3.2 during a slothful senior year-- we better not rank this loser.

 

[cytoborg]

I suppose that there might be some med school that lists your undergrad gpa in your dean's letter, but I haven't heard of it.

Ours does. Maybe it's not a common thing.

Second, the VAST majority of residencies do not ask for your undergrad grades or MCAT or SAT or anything else.

Agreed - the vast majority of residency programs don't care about transcripts per se. The more important thing is honors/awards from undergrad, which is often tied to your final GPA.

 

[clinick]

See, I've been home in humble Huntsville, AL for the past two weeks and I forgot how INSANE pre-med (med) students are. There is no need to argue about whether a C is permissable. I think I'd probably cry if I got a C anyway... it's pretty hard to drop a work ethic after 3.5 years of studying.

Furthermore, I would have freaking killed the guy who unaccepted me for no reason.