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asdf123g said:
I dont condone hazing however Id imagine when you go thru some **** with other people, strangers or not, you form a significant bond. People who are not in greek organizations dont understand the friendship formed (I was in a non-hazing greek org), but the bond with your brothers/sisters is untranslatable, you simply cannot understand unless you are a part of it.
The bolded part is rather naive. Dues go towards being able to having events: BBQ's, campouts, advertising for say rush week, parties, awards, scholarships, composites, etc. Its not buying friends. Perhaps the only thing you are "buying" is a massive alumni network post-college who will help you find a job and or provide professional advice when needed and further your success.
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I absolutely do not believe that frats and sororities yield these supernatural-level friendships that other people could never understand.
 
Mad Jack said:
I guess that's what bugs me. It's meaningless, actual torture of people that you supposedly want to be your friends, that you then pay to become a member of their organization. I mean, objectively, that looks like the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Me and my friends are close because of things we'd take back if we could, people we wish were still with us, things we wish had never happened. I can think of seven of them I'd take a bullet for without question though, because we saw and went through a lot, but at the end of the day, I'd take it all back and have us be less close for all that pain to be gone and those people to be with us still. Not because it'd be better for me, but because it'd be better for them and their families.

Pity this thread hasn't picked up. I've got a lot of secrets I'd volunteer if it had. I guess I'll just be here waiting, so I'm not the only guy spilling his guts to randoms on the interwebs.
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Damn I've got some good stories (but my identity can be known so I'm not about to spill those beans). I will say this, as a youngster, I saw someone get murdered point blank. A clear shot to the forehead. Was the first, wasn't the last. I know who did it too. Don't know why. It Was in another country so don't start with the legal stuff. Turns out other places are quite corrupt (no experience with such a level of corruption here, so that remains to be seen). Had s blessed childhood in some ways, but it was rough. Definitely rough.
 
Stagg737 said:
During freshman year I went to a Halloween party dressed as Super Mario at a house we'd never been to and didn't know was notorious for having the cops called. I ended up playing 1 on 1 flip cup with some girl for a while. Idk how long it was, but we went through 3 pitchers between the two of us. So we decide to head out, but I said I was going to use the bathroom first. I go in, start my business, and immediately hear someone yell "The cops are here" followed by everyone laughing really loud. I assumed they were kidding, finished my business, and stepped back in the hallway to realize the house was empty. I looked down the hall and saw a cop about to turn the corner and walk out, but instead he turned around and asked me to give him my ID.

Now, at this point I should have just told him that I didn't have it with me and that I left it in the dorms, but since I'd been imbibing pretty heavily for the past couple hours, I thought it would be a good idea to throw one of my paper "fireballs" at him and say "Itsa me, Maaaaaarioooo!!" Needless to say he wasn't too amused by this and I ended up in the back of his car. Lucky for me he must have either been the nicest cop ever or secretly thought it was funny because he just drove me back to my dorm and wrote me a ticket for a minor violation instead of arresting me. There's actually a lot more details to the night and that little incident, but for sake of keeping it relatively short I'll just leave it at that.
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He probably let you off with a ticket because he didn't want to be seen by the other officers bringing Super Mario to booking.

Can you imagine the years of Bowser jokes you would have spawned?
 
Cotterpin said:
I absolutely do not believe that frats and sororities yield these supernatural-level friendships that other people could never understand.
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Like I said, its difficult if not impossible to understand until you join. I thought the same thing as you until I joined. I joined under very special circumstances which I will not elaborate on publically (but it would make sense if I told you) and I joined with the intent on leaving. Everything changed unexpectedly after joining.
 
I'd think I would be more worried about if they tried googling my name...
 
esob said:
Hmm, I've seen every episode of Ancient Aliens at least twice and I've recently discovered that I like other people to wash my hair for me 😀
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Hey... I enjoyed that show...
 
medic86 said:
ITT: frat boys making it sound like joining a fraternity is like graduating from BUD/S.
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But we boring cerebral counterparts could never understand how doing some of the dumbest and dirtiest ******ed **** man can come up with forms strong friendship bonds like no other.

Real talk – if you need to do ******ed **** together to make real friends, you need to reevaluate 1) how you define a friend and 2) your own friendship/social abilities.
 
Spinach Dip said:
He probably let you off with a ticket because he didn't want to be seen by the other officers bringing Super Mario to booking.

Can you imagine the years of Bowser jokes you would have spawned?
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This actually made me lol, I never thought of that but it could have been part of it. I think they were so busy that night that they didn't want to deal with me since I was really cooperative after the fireball incident. Some of the things I heard on the police radio while I was in the back of the car were hilarious.

Cotterpin said:
I absolutely do not believe that frats and sororities yield these supernatural-level friendships that other people could never understand.
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I wouldn't call them supernatural, but they are stronger than just random friendships people make. I think for most people in my pledge class, the friendship we had after going through just pledging and the following few weeks when we could hang out with each other while not pledging was deeper than most of the friendships that we developed over the next 2-3 years of college. It's the same idea behind military bootcamp (obviously not the same process or to the same extent) where you develop deep levels of trust with each other over a short period of time.

avgn said:
But we boring cerebral counterparts could never understand how doing some of the dumbest and dirtiest ******ed **** man can come up with forms strong friendship bonds like no other.

Real talk – if you need to do ******ed **** together to make real friends, you need to reevaluate 1) how you define a friend and 2) your own friendship/social abilities.
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It has nothing to do with being boring or cerebral, or with doing dumb or dirty stuff. Most of the people in fraternities here have already said that getting pissed on or covered in blood is just stupid and doesn't serve a real purpose. If the guy that happened to got something out of it, then good for him for finding the silver lining. Doesn't change the fact that it's stupid.

As for your "real talk", what a bunch of nonsense. When you go through something difficult with someone and support each other, it's going to strengthen your bonds with them and your trust. It doesn't have to be something like pledging, it could be the death of a close friend or something like taking a bunch of classes together. The point is that going through things together creates common bonds, but going through something like the death of a friend and being there to support each other is going to create a stronger connection than just taking some class together. Most things that people have in common don't force them to support each other and don't make them develop trust. Experiences like pledging, or boot camp force you to trust and understand each other.

I'll define a "friend" as someone who I can trust with almost anything and who will go out of their way, and take significant time out of their day/life to help me when I really need it, as I would do the same for any of my friends. Anything short of that isn't a real friendship, and if they're not willing to ride out a painful/stressful situation with you, even if it lasts for months, they're not a real friend. Everyone's friendship and social "abilities" are different. I already said not everyone makes friends easily, and not everyone sees such superficial things as just hanging out or grabbing food together as a sign of friendship. If that's how you define it, then that's fine, but I'm sometimes amazed at some of the relationships people consider to actually be 'friendships'.
 
Stagg737 said:
This actually made me lol, I never thought of that but it could have been part of it. I think they were so busy that night that they didn't want to deal with me since I was really cooperative after the fireball incident. Some of the things I heard on the police radio while I was in the back of the car were hilarious.
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i'm glad the cop didn't think they were real fireballs and then decided to shoot you in self defense
 
which did you guys prefer: simple plan, good charlotte, yellowcard, American hi-fi, bowling for soup, my chamical romance (am i missing any)?
 
Oh_Gee said:
which did you guys prefer: simple plan, good charlotte, yellowcard, American hi-fi, bowling for soup, my chamical romance (am i missing any)?
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MCR - The Black Parade is one of the best albums ever IMO.
 
Stagg737 said:
I wouldn't call them supernatural, but they are stronger than just random friendships people make. I think for most people in my pledge class, the friendship we had after going through just pledging and the following few weeks when we could hang out with each other while not pledging was deeper than most of the friendships that we developed over the next 2-3 years of college. It's the same idea behind military bootcamp (obviously not the same process or to the same extent) where you develop deep levels of trust with each other over a short period of time.
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It is in no way unique to frats and sororities. There are friends I made when I was like 19 years-old who I am still close enough with 14 years later that I tell people they are my brothers and sisters. Did I meet them in a hazing ritual? No. I met them at work. Are your friendships closer than mine and I could never possibly understand them just because my friends and I didn't meet in a frat house? No way. That's silly.
 
The Buff OP said:
That Kai dude is a genius. He caused this whole BS so his new supplement company can get all the attention too.
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Yeah he is! All Everyone was talking about at the expo.
 
Cotterpin said:
It is in no way unique to frats and sororities. There are friends I made when I was like 19 years-old who I am still close enough with 14 years later that I tell people they are my brothers and sisters. Did I meet them in a hazing ritual? No. I met them at work. Are your friendships closer than mine and I could never possibly understand them just because my friends and I didn't meet in a frat house? No way. That's silly.
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Good for you, I don't particularly like opening up to people and I've moved around the country so much that keeping in touch with most people is difficult and often impractical. I'm glad you were able to make friends like that pretty easily, but many people just don't. If you found friends that you were able to trust and bond with enough that you will be lifelong friends during the course of 1-2 years, then we're just very different people.
 
Oh_Gee said:
which did you guys prefer: simple plan, good charlotte, yellowcard, American hi-fi, bowling for soup, my chamical romance (am i missing any)?
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Yellowcard. I was an edgy emo kid back in middleschool.
 
In my opinion, most pre-meds on SDN can be classified into two categories- neurotic freshmen and panicking college seniors and graduates
 
RaspberrySlushy said:
I should clarify. I watch bachelor, bachelorette, bachelor pad, bachelor in paradise, all of it. It is awesome trash, and I agree that Bach in paradise is more fun. It helped me get through MCAT studying for sure when I just needed a break and to not think.

Or whenever I wanted to contemplate an 80/40 decision.
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Last year I would sit at home and tell my friends I was studying for the MCAT when i just wanted to drink wine and watch all of these...

...And yes for all those wondering I have already introduced myself to the LGBT section of the forums:laugh::laugh:
 
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