Do you know all the types of hospitals? and kinds of residency programs?

[Shoushu]

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Do you know all the types of hospitals? and kinds of residency programs?

It may be dumb question, but just wondering. There are public and private hospitals right? Just like public and private schools. Which is more popular and what's the % makeup?

How many teaching hospitals are there? and how many residency programs there? Average # of residents in each program? In each hospital?

When applying to college, you no doubt heard ballpark figures for HS and colleges. There're 25,000 high schools in the US. I assume most are public HS and some elite private ones. In USA, there are also 4,000 universities and around 6,000 if you include community college etc.


What's the ball-park figure for Hospital, clinic, and group practice, solo practice? Desirable to do residency at public hospital or private

 

[Law2Doc]

Do you know all the types of hospitals? and kinds of residency programs?

It may be dumb question, but just wondering. There are public and private hospitals right? Just like public and private schools. Which is more popular and what's the % makeup? ...

To some extent I think you need to adjust and rephrase your question so folks can know what you are trying to get at. At any rate hospitals tend to be divided between smaller community hospitals and the larger academic centers. Any hospital with a residency program is technically going to be a teaching hospital, though some reserve that phrase for places affiliated with a med school. I don't think that "more popular" is the right question -- people go to hospitals based on specialties, residency slots, whether a place is benign vs malignant, not because the place is public vs private. I think you need to ask very specific questions, and not a laundry list of them because honestly it's impossible to see what you are trying to get at from your question, but it seems to stem from a misperception of how folks choose residencies perhaps?

 

[Shoushu]

To some extent I think you need to adjust and rephrase your question so folks can know what you are trying to get at. At any rate hospitals tend to be divided between smaller community hospitals and the larger academic centers. Any hospital with a residency program is technically going to be a teaching hospital, though some reserve that phrase for places affiliated with a med school. I don't think that "more popular" is the right question -- people go to hospitals based on specialties, residency slots, whether a place is benign vs malignant, not because the place is public vs private. I think you need to ask very specific questions, and not a laundry list of them because honestly it's impossible to see what you are trying to get at from your question, but it seems to stem from a misperception of how folks choose residencies perhaps?

Thanks for the attempted answer. Yes, I'm trying to ask how folks choose residencies. And if applying to residencies is an analogous/similar process as applying to colleges, and then med schools.

Are you allowed to apply to as many residencies as you want? And what do applicants generally look for?

If talking about University Hospitals, then there can't be more than a couple hundred of those medical centers in US right? Due to the limited # of Med School affliated hospitals. There are no doubt 100s or 1,000s of "teaching hospitals" that have Res programs, and using residents as low-paid labor?

I'm trying to get a sense of things, the big picture.

 

[DrMom]

moving to pre-allo since residency forums are for those applying to or in residency to discuss their training.

 

[organdonor]

For all the residency info you could ever want, take some time to look around here. https://freida.ama-assn.org/Freida/user/viewProgramSearch.do

It's got the names of all the ama accredited residencies and fellowships, where they are, how many spots they have, the pay, the benefits, etc.

 

[metalgearHMN]

For all the residency info you could ever want, take some time to look around here. https://freida.ama-assn.org/Freida/user/viewProgramSearch.do

It's got the names of all the ama accredited residencies and fellowships, where they are, how many spots they have, the pay, the benefits, etc.

Wow that is an amazing resource, thanks for the link. Can't wait till I finally get to use it for more than pre-med day-dreaming 😛

 

[theWUbear]

there doesn't seem to be a slot for "infectious disease" in the residency selector. what residency do you do if you are interested in ID? internal med? allergy/immunology?

 

[DrYoda]

there doesn't seem to be a slot for "infectious disease" in the residency selector. what residency do you do if you are interested in ID? internal med? allergy/immunology?

Because ID is a fellowhip and not a residency😉

But if anyone wants a list of ID fellowships the infectious disease socity of america has compiled a list at: http://www.idsociety.org/Content.aspx?id=6146

Most similar organizations will have lists for their field.

 

[organdonor]

there doesn't seem to be a slot for "infectious disease" in the residency selector. what residency do you do if you are interested in ID? internal med? allergy/immunology?

Because ID is a fellowhip and not a residency😉

But if anyone wants a list of ID fellowships the infectious disease socity of america has compiled a list at: http://www.idsociety.org/Content.aspx?id=6146

Most similar organizations will have lists for their field.

Yes that is correct. There is a section to select "subspecialty" on that website. Infectious disease is listed there. BTW, the columns are kind of confusing, as they are in alphabetical order, but it alternates columns 👎

 

[theWUbear]

Thank you, Dr. Yoda and Organdonor. I did not know ID was a fellowship. To reiterate my second question, would that mean if you are interested in ID medicine you get to choose whatever residency you want? Or is it standard for infectious disease fellows to come from a certain residency type (i.e. internal medicine). My apologies for a partial thread hijacking.

 

[DrYoda]

Thank you, Dr. Yoda and Organdonor. I did not know ID was a fellowship. To reiterate my second question, would that mean if you are interested in ID medicine you get to choose whatever residency you want? Or is it standard for infectious disease fellows to come from a certain residency type (i.e. internal medicine). My apologies for a partial thread hijacking.

For infectious disease you would need to do an internal medicine residency.

Unless you wanted to do pediatric ID, in which case you would do pediatrics.

 

[Shoushu]

For infectious disease you would need to do an internal medicine residency.

Unless you wanted to do pediatric ID, in which case you would do pediatrics.

Cool, so IM residency can lead to ID Fellowship, or a Pediatric residency ---> Pediatric ID.

Can one switch residency programs easily though? I fear it might be harder than transferring colleges, or transfer to a diff. med school?

For example, if I do IM residency, but change my mind for whatever reason and want to do General Surgery res., can I then go through 5 years and be a general surgery?

 

[theWUbear]

Cool, so IM residency can lead to ID Fellowship, or a Pediatric residency ---> Pediatric ID.

Can one switch residency programs easily though? I fear it might be harder than transferring colleges, or transfer to a diff. med school?

For example, if I do IM residency, but change my mind for whatever reason and want to do General Surgery res., can I then go through 5 years and be a general surgery?

I'm not one with a plethora of knowledge on this, but I believe this is what they call "double boarding". One reason a person might want to do this is if he/she wants to practice two specialties at once. Apparently this idea is tough to put into practice. I found the above information all on one random old thread.

 

[FloatOn]

Cool, so IM residency can lead to ID Fellowship, or a Pediatric residency ---> Pediatric ID.

Can one switch residency programs easily though? I fear it might be harder than transferring colleges, or transfer to a diff. med school?

For example, if I do IM residency, but change my mind for whatever reason and want to do General Surgery res., can I then go through 5 years and be a general surgery?

Yes, you can switch from a residency of one specialty to a residency of another specialty. Although I don't think it's very common, it does happen. As you can imagine, it takes an incredible amount of time and effort to get into/begin/work through the first residency so I'm sure people take the decision very seriously before switching. If you're completely miserable in IM and you want to do surgery, why would you stay in IM?

 

[DrYoda]

Cool, so IM residency can lead to ID Fellowship, or a Pediatric residency ---> Pediatric ID.

Can one switch residency programs easily though? I fear it might be harder than transferring colleges, or transfer to a diff. med school?

For example, if I do IM residency, but change my mind for whatever reason and want to do General Surgery res., can I then go through 5 years and be a general surgery?

Yes you can switch residencies.

However, there is a cap on years of full medicare funding you can recieve in residency (based on the residency you start in). I've read it can cause some issues with switching depending on the situation, but I'm not sure of the details.

 

[DrMom]

Brief explanation.

You are only fully funded for the time period of the first residency you match in. That means that if you match, for example, to an IM program (3 years) then you try to switch to something longer like OB, Surgery, etc, you won't be fully funded after the first 3 years of training is up. Some programs won't even consider you in this situation because they lose money taking you as opposed to taking someone who has full funding for the entire training period. This doesn't apply to fellowships as they are a separate application/match from residency.

And, yes, changing residencies is difficult and unusual, although you will find people doing it from time to time. (Don't consider practicing docs who changed programs when they went through, though, as it didn't used to be as difficult to change programs or do a second residency.) Bottom line: don't plan on changing programs.

 

[organdonor]

Brief explanation.

You are only fully funded for the time period of the first residency you match in. T.

What do you mean by this? Are residency spots paid for by someone? As a resident you get a salary so I don't understand?

 

[DrMom]

the government funds residency training

 

[organdonor]

the government funds residency training

Ok thanks. Learn something new every day. When I am working as a resident I will have to thank all those taxpayers for my salary!

 

[FloatOn]

the government funds residency training

Through Medicare, right?

 

[DrYoda]

Through Medicare, right?

Correct.

 

[mvenus929]

Cool, so IM residency can lead to ID Fellowship, or a Pediatric residency ---> Pediatric ID.

Can one switch residency programs easily though? I fear it might be harder than transferring colleges, or transfer to a diff. med school?

For example, if I do IM residency, but change my mind for whatever reason and want to do General Surgery res., can I then go through 5 years and be a general surgery?

I was under the impression that you must 'rematch' into a residency if you decide to switch specialities, and you have to redo your intern year, so it's not like you get 'credit' for already doing one intern year in another specialty. You start back at the bottom. So yeah, it's a lot more difficult to 'transfer' residency than to transfer colleges, but may be easier than transferring medical schools (which is hard enough to do... as you can only do so between second and third year, which falls in different places in different schools, and only if there's a slot in the class open, so it's pretty rare).