Do you prefer to pay down your mortgage principal, or make minimum payments and invest the rest?

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Pay down the mortgage or invest?

  • Pay down principal aggressively

    Votes: 16 38.1%
  • Make minimum mortgage payment and invest the rest

    Votes: 11 26.2%
  • Do a little bit of both

    Votes: 15 35.7%

  • Total voters
    42
Nobody said to pay off your mortgage at the expense of your emergency fund. You need to consider this move holistically.

I never mentioned using your emergency fund.

If I pay the extra 100k into the mortgage and lose my job, I still have a 400k mortgage left.

If I invest the extra 100k and lose my job, I have a 500k mortgage plus an extra 100k (presumably more) in my brokerage. This option seems safer.
 
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I never mentioned using your emergency fund.

If I pay the extra 100k into the mortgage and lose my job, I still have a 400k mortgage left.

If I invest the extra 100k and lose my job, I have a 500k mortgage plus an extra 100k (presumably more) in my brokerage. This option seems safer.
If the job of pharmacist is getting this un-reliable then a lot of financial "rules" may not apply. First...do NOT get a 500k mortgage..or some goofy oversized pick-up...etc. Put the money for the pick-up into cash somewhere...Real trouble means that you sell the house..but the cash gives you some room...then, who knows? Just having this discussion should be a mondo warning about the pharmacy trade...
 
If the job of pharmacist is getting this un-reliable then a lot of financial "rules" may not apply. First...do NOT get a 500k mortgage..or some goofy oversized pick-up...etc. Put the money for the pick-up into cash somewhere...Real trouble means that you sell the house..but the cash gives you some room...then, who knows? Just having this discussion should be a mondo warning about the pharmacy trade...

500k is a starter home in my area...
 
500k is a starter home in my area...
I get it. I’ve lived places like that. But there’s a reason I didn’t buy a house there. The reason was it was ultimately too expensive compared to my income. Unfortunately most places you’d want to live are like this now.

If you live somewhere less desirable, it’s feasible to pay off the house and still have a $75k emergency fund. Different decisions based on different locales and available options.
 
I get it. I’ve lived places like that. But there’s a reason I didn’t buy a house there. The reason was it was ultimately too expensive compared to my income. Unfortunately most places you’d want to live are like this now.

If you live somewhere less desirable, it’s feasible to pay off the house and still have a $75k emergency fund. Different decisions based on different locales and available options.

We will probably pay it off within 15 years, assuming my job lasts that long. My wife has income too. We just started.
 
Honestly, I would do both, but my dream is to be debt-free, so I keep paying the mortgage and even pay extra whenever I can. My best friend works as a Mortgage Broker Cambridge, and we created a customized payment system for my case. I have a pretty decent income, and I hope to get rid of the mortgage a few years earlier. I know many people do that, and I think after I'll have enough money for investments. Back in the day, I tried to invest in stocks, but the revenue wasn't worth it, so I gave up. If I want more profit, I have to invest a solid amount of money, but now everything goes towards my mortgage, so I'll think about investments in a few years.
 
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Honestly, I would do both, but my dream is to be debt-free, so I keep paying the mortgage and even pay extra whenever I can. I have a pretty decent income, and I hope to get rid of the mortgage a few years earlier. If I want more profit, I have to invest a solid amount of money, but now everything goes towards my mortgage, so I'll think about investments in a few years.

Question - if you were debt free today (ie dream achieved), what would you then be doing differently vs what you are doing now?
 
Speaking up a lot more at work and taking a lot more vacations

Being able to say "no" a lot more at work haha

That’s laudable... working less is definitely a good goal.

I think for me, this is probably why I don’t mind carrying the debt for a longer period, I would be taking the same amount of vacation before vs after being debt free.

I’d end up just buying more stupid crap that I don’t really need. I’d rather have more cash flow month-to-month for little things (frequent time off) and invest.

But kudos to you all for having that goal. I asked the first person that because, I wanted to know what they weren’t doing now that they intended to do after retiring the debt. I wanted to see if that goal was possible today vs tomorrow.

No day like today, my friends.
 
I think for me, this is probably why I don’t mind carrying the debt for a longer period, I would be taking the same amount of vacation before vs after being debt free.

I’d end up just buying more stupid crap that I don’t really need. I’d rather have more cash flow month-to-month for little things (frequent time off) and invest.
Despite being in a much better financial position today, I feel like I've gotten much more frugal than in the past. Back when I had a student loan, car payment, and mortgage, I was a lot more liberal with my spending. Didn't bat an eye at the occasional $100+ dinner, sporting event, concert, electronic purchases, etc. Maybe it was because I haven't really experienced any of that yet as I was in my mid/late 20s, but now its rare (pandemic or not) that I would do any of those things. I'm more or less jaded about the whole fine dining thing now when I look at the cost of one $200 dinner can literally feed 2 people for a week.

I don't really buy stuff anymore but if I upgrade any of my electronics I make sure to sell or trade in the old model in order to reduce clutter. I'd like to say that I have the "digital nomad" mindset and take inventory of what I actually need in my everyday life.

I used to gamble a lot too (not a ton but would lose anywhere between $200 to $500 every Vegas trip) but buying stocks has mostly replaced that bad habit lol

It's definitely important to have goals. Looking back it felt very rewarding going through the process of knocking down my loans one by one. I had set reasonable goals where I would pay off a particular loan or get it down to a certain balance by x month or x year. If an unplanned expense came up sometimes I would get stressed out because it might delay my goal which goes to show the entire journey was filled with a lot of different emotions.
I had set the mortgage to be THE goal which I've spent almost 5 years paying down and reaching every milestone was a dopamine hit. Instead of SNL's "weekend update" I'd show my wife the mortgage balance update lol. The most impactful goal was definitely getting the balance down from six to five digits.

At this moment in time I haven't set any specific investing goals. With the unpredictability of the job market I really have no idea how much longer I'll be a pharmacist for (not being dramatic, just realistic). I've been having more and more thoughts about what I might want to do or go to school for in case of job loss. Experience only goes so far in pharmacy especially when too much of it can work against you. I don't think I'd be interested in the almost futile job hunt when the more sensible option is to just walk away, and that's okay.
 
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