Do you think you can get rich in Peds??

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You can probably make 200K as a pediatrician, but you would have to work much more than a 40 hour work week (possibly 60+). ...

Actually many pediatricians work more than a 60 hour week just to clear $150k or less. It's not one of the better paid specialties. There will be a few folks who earn better but a lot more who earn worse. And it's a field where you are going to be fielding phone calls from concerned parents pretty much every evening, so your hours don't really stop at the office. You gotta do it because you love it, not for the perqs.
 
You know I don't get when people say things like this. If you are a student you qualify to buy a yearly school health insurance. If you are not a student and poor you qualify for medicaid. This is why I'm glad places like massachusetts force their students to buy health insurance from school or medicaid by state law if no other health insurance exists.

I think more states should follow such. The only people who realistically I can see not qualifying for any insurance are truly illegal immigrants or the homeless. But medicaid and school insurance or buying private insurance from a private company are always options though the last is the most expensive.

Are you not in school? If you are, you should easily be able to get it and saying oh its not affordable is something I don't believe because student loans cover health insurance and people can always get some loans federal loans for school and health insurance and basic living needs.

Student loans cover health insurance, yes, and I am aware of this, except for the fact that this year, I pay out of state tuition (even though I live in the state) and cannot afford to use my student loans for anything other than tuition. I cannot afford to take out private loans, either.

While I get what you're saying, not everyone can take care of the health insurance issue so easily, so please don't assume that the reason I'm uninsured is like everyone else, and is an easy fix. I do not qualify for Medicaid, either.
 
I didn't assume. That's why I said I don't get it and was waiting to see what you had to say to maybe make me understand. I admit there's stuff I don't understand but I want to hear from those who are in that situation to understand why they such.

But thanks for the response. I see your situation was different, but like I said, I'm just trying to understand.

Okay, I apologize then for getting so pissy. It had sounded like you had assumed.
 
The entitlement mentality is so sad in this country. My friend is in his mid20s and can definitely afford health insurance (1,500-2,000 annual premium). However, he refuses to do so, saying, "Why should I pay for it?". I was flabbergasted. He expects others to pay for his health care or that it should be provided for free. Well, unless you have health care personnel working for free, you will either have to pay the doctor indirectly, directly, or through very high taxes.

I should have asked him, "Do you work for free?" Maybe lawyers should give us free legal advice, the local grocery store should give us food for nothing, and sporting events should be complimentary. (Entertainment prices have far outpaced inflation and health care percent increases)

lol "right"... yeah its a right. What else is a right? Should I have a right to a big house and 5 cars too? Rights don't entitle you to the services of other people. LOL... "right"... b!tch plz...
 
If you aren't interested in medicine "for the money", would you give away all your salary/compensation (after your monthly loan payments) so that you can have a gross salary of 50,000 since that is "so much money"? 😉

I'll bet that you wouldn't do so. Some people say, "Whatever somebody is willing to pay us, we deserve to get paid." Others contend, "We should be compensated by our talent and hard-work."

I would say that you "deserve" to be paid what the market dictates.



Now Im not going into Medicine for the money,

im really interested in General Clinical Pediatrics, but is it really worth it?? I mean I wanna gross around $200,000 (I have a 4.0 GPA....I've worked my butt off lol) and after all the debt of medical school and the work of a residency program I think that I deserve that almost all doctors deserve that salary.

But can I make that kind of Salary as a Pediatrician??

What do you think??
 
Are you not in school? If you are, you should easily be able to get it and saying oh its not affordable is something I don't believe because student loans cover health insurance and people can always get some loans federal loans for school and health insurance and basic living needs.

International students don't qualify for federal loans. My roommate hasn't gotten her green card yet, so she went for MD/PhD so that she wouldn't have to find private loans to cover all of her expenses.
 
Student loans cover health insurance, yes, and I am aware of this, except for the fact that this year, I pay out of state tuition (even though I live in the state) and cannot afford to use my student loans for anything other than tuition. I cannot afford to take out private loans, either.
I'm sorry, but if you can take out loans to pay tuition, you can take out loans to cover health insurance (whether private or not). Health insurance should be as much a Must as completing your education.

My school forces you to have some sort of health insurance - whether from the school, your parents, or elsewhere. I am surprised more schools don't require that also and don't include that in your student loan package. Honestly, I would go talk to the financial aid office until they upped your package so that health insurance was covered (otherwise plan on suing the school if you get sick)
 
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I'm sorry, but if you can take out loans to pay tuition, you can take out loans to cover health insurance (whether private or not). Health insurance should be as much a Must as completing your education.

My school forces you to have some sort of health insurance - whether from the school, your parents, or elsewhere. I am surprised more schools don't require that also and don't include that in your student loan package. Honestly, I would go talk to the financial aid office until they upped your package so that health insurance was covered (otherwise plan on suing the school if you get sick)

Unfortunately, health insurance is not forced, nor is it covered in my tuition package, as far as I know. As far as loans, I have just enough given to me to actually pay for my tuition, and even then it is coming real close.

The school does offer discounted services, like I think it's about 100 bucks to have a full on gynecological exam (including pap smear) and that is without health insurance.
 
Unfortunately, health insurance is not forced, nor is it covered in my tuition package, as far as I know. As far as loans, I have just enough given to me to actually pay for my tuition, and even then it is coming real close.

The school does offer discounted services, like I think it's about 100 bucks to have a full on gynecological exam (including pap smear) and that is without health insurance.
That's really a pity from your school. I would still go talk to the financial aid office, student services, and even the office that offers discounted services. I would make a ruckus about you being uninsured correctly because of their lack of policy. What if an emergency happens and you need to go to the ER? Have surgery? ect. It's rare but better to be safe than sorry. (Of course, I was annoyed when I discovered my grad school's tuition waiver didn't include cover my school's health insurance and talked to everyone trying to change that -- but I couldn't be too upset because I didn't have to take out loans for school... but still.)
 
Wait a minute. Did you just call uninsured CHILDREN "thieves"?

Yeah, it's totally the kid's fault that he doesn't have insurance. 🙄

Yes, because if you stiff a physician it's called theft of services or fraud.
 
The entitlement mentality is so sad in this country. My friend is in his mid20s and can definitely afford health insurance (1,500-2,000 annual premium). However, he refuses to do so, saying, "Why should I pay for it?". I was flabbergasted. He expects others to pay for his health care or that it should be provided for free. Well, unless you have health care personnel working for free, you will either have to pay the doctor indirectly, directly, or through very high taxes.

I should have asked him, "Do you work for free?" Maybe lawyers should give us free legal advice, the local grocery store should give us food for nothing, and sporting events should be complimentary. (Entertainment prices have far outpaced inflation and health care percent increases)

here is a letter that has been circulating around the internet lately that echoes that mentality.

Dear Mr. President:
During my shift in the Emergency Room last night, I had the pleasure of evaluating a patient whose smile revealed an expensive shiny gold tooth, whose body was adorned with a wide assortment of elaborate and costly tattoos, who wore a very expensive brand of tennis shoes and who chatted on a new cellular telephone equipped with a popular R&B ringtone.


While glancing over her patient chart, I happened to notice that her payer status was listed as "Medicaid"! During my examination of her, the patient informed me that she smokes more than one pack of cigarettes every day, eats only at fast-food take-outs, and somehow still has money to buy pretzels and beer. And, you and our Congress expect me to pay for this woman's health care? I contend that our nation's "health care crisis" is not the result of a shortage of quality hospitals, doctors or nurses. Rather, it is the result of a "crisis of culture" a culture in which it is perfectly acceptable to spend money on luxuries and vices while refusing to take care of one's self or, heaven forbid, purchase health insurance. It is a culture based in the irresponsible credo that "I can do whatever I want to because someone else will always take care of me". Once you fix this "culture crisis" that rewards irresponsibility and dependency, you'll be amazed at how quickly our nation's health care difficulties will disappear.

Respectfully,
ROGER STARNER JONES, MD
 
Whoa, I don't know about that. I agree with a lot of your posts, but I think children are a different issue. I don't think that a 10 or 12 year old (even a 17 year old) should be denied health insurance--they're just kids! 😎

Yes, because if you stiff a physician it's called theft of services or fraud.
 
Yeah, I actually saw that article last year. Its amazing; a pack a day is like 4 dollars/day. If they smoke daily, that is 1,460 dollars a year. That's almost enough to pay for her health insurance premium, depending on how old she is. I don't know how much tattoo's cost, but I've seen prices for tattoo removal. Its about 20 dollars for each square inch of tattoo removed; maybe we should get into that business. :laugh:

here is a letter that has been circulating around the internet lately that echoes that mentality.

Dear Mr. President:
During my shift in the Emergency Room last night, I had the pleasure of evaluating a patient whose smile revealed an expensive shiny gold tooth, whose body was adorned with a wide assortment of elaborate and costly tattoos, who wore a very expensive brand of tennis shoes and who chatted on a new cellular telephone equipped with a popular R&B ringtone.


While glancing over her patient chart, I happened to notice that her payer status was listed as "Medicaid"! During my examination of her, the patient informed me that she smokes more than one pack of cigarettes every day, eats only at fast-food take-outs, and somehow still has money to buy pretzels and beer. And, you and our Congress expect me to pay for this woman's health care? I contend that our nation's "health care crisis" is not the result of a shortage of quality hospitals, doctors or nurses. Rather, it is the result of a "crisis of culture" a culture in which it is perfectly acceptable to spend money on luxuries and vices while refusing to take care of one's self or, heaven forbid, purchase health insurance. It is a culture based in the irresponsible credo that "I can do whatever I want to because someone else will always take care of me". Once you fix this "culture crisis" that rewards irresponsibility and dependency, you'll be amazed at how quickly our nation's health care difficulties will disappear.

Respectfully,
ROGER STARNER JONES, MD
 
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