Doctor = Infidelity ?

[desibhai]

Came across this article about male physicians being the most likely profession to cheat.

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/03/10/most-adulterous-prof.html

Anyone else find this surprising?

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[NickNaylor]

Does not compute.

 

[Practitioner]

Surprising, no.

The initial feeling is.... disconcerting(?)

You're working in a job that requires long hours (thus many hours of absence without questioning), that makes you hard to get a hold of, and often work very closely with people of the opposite sex... go figure.

Teachers is more surprising than physicians.

[edit] - looking more carefully at how they got those stats I'd say the better conclusion is: males who cheat are more likely to list themselves as "physicians". Yeah.

 

[schrizto]

A survey of the 1.9 million accounts on AshleyMadison.com, a dating site for people looking to cheat on their spouses, rounds up the most common occupations among the would-be infidelitous:

The fact that there's a site with 1.9 million members for people looking to be unfaithful is more disturbing.

 

[morning]

There are more men in the male professions they surveyed, and more women in the female professions. I noticed all of them fell into traditional gender roles - all 5 top professions for female cheaters were traditionally female, and all 5 top professions for male cheaters were traditionally male...so the survey pool is larger. Ask again in 20 years when the gender balances of these professions have shifted into where they're heading.

Another observation: the professions reporting the most female cheaters tend to be ones with extra time to spare, whereas the males are in high-stress, high-workload professions. So I guess women cheat because they're bored, men cheat because they're stressed

 

[Marcus Brody]

don't hate tha playa

 

[alibai3ah]

O boy, that's not good. Especially b/c my girlfriend is a teacher (#1 for women) and I'll be a doctor (#1 for men)....bad combo

 

[cliffhuxtableDO]

O boy, that's not good. Especially b/c my girlfriend is a teacher (#1 for women) and I'll be a doctor (#1 for men)....bad combo

sounds like a couple of swingers...(only kidding)

 

[theWUbear]

don't hate tha playa

Did you just say that for the sake of saying it, or did you mean to imply that it is some attribute of the medical profession (aka "the game" in this idiom) - be it long hours, high pay, etc. - that causes male physicians to be unfaithful? I'm going with random asinine comment without implications as to its meaning.

 

[Beta Cell]

This really isn't too surprising. The study is really flawed. They surveyed some bizarre infidelity website and just wrote down what people claimed to be their occupations. If one is willing to cheat on one's spouse, I'm certain that those people would have no qualms with embellishing their occupations.

 

[Mackey]

Did you just say that for the sake of saying it, or did you mean to imply that it is some attribute of the medical profession (aka "the game" in this idiom) - be it long hours, high pay, etc. - that causes male physicians to be unfaithful? I'm going with random asinine comment without implications as to its meaning.

 

[swamprat]

Well like they say... life is short, have an affair.

 

[Morsetlis]

Surprisingly I don't feel the instinct to cheat. Must have something to do with my 1TB+ porn collection.

A lot of the "cheating professions" have high prestige. The men might just be lying so women would want to sleep with them, since they're "a doctor".

 

[Chemokine7]

Surprisingly I don't feel the instinct to cheat. Must have something to do with my 1TB+ porn collection.

 

[Cybii]

I'm with the school of thought that guys are just listing themselves as "physicians" in their profile because they think being a doctor will attract the lay-days.

 

[Cybii]

Well like they say... life is short, have an affair.

That's... the first time I ever heard that saying

 

[Marcus Brody]

Did you just say that for the sake of saying it, or did you mean to imply that it is some attribute of the medical profession (aka "the game" in this idiom) - be it long hours, high pay, etc. - that causes male physicians to be unfaithful? I'm going with random asinine comment without implications as to its meaning.

 

[md2010sgu]

Well I hate to say it, but there are a lot of physicians and residents who cheat on their S.O.'s. First let me say that it is in NO way... I repeat NO WAY dramatic like in that ******ed show Grey's Anatomy or ER. I do not agree with infidelity nor am I guilty of it.

That being said, I happen to know a lot of Attendings and residents (mostly in NY) that have gone through multiple marriages, and guess who they end up remarrying??? Hospital staff/co-attendings/co-residents... no surprise there. You are interacting constantly with people in the hospital, where you spend most of your life (let's face it... you do). I'm not surprised at all that the website says that physicians are #1. This is of course just one website, but it is a very well publicized one.

 

[boaz]

professional golfers are worse.

 

[Cybii]

Well I hate to say it, but there are a lot of physicians and residents who cheat on their S.O.'s. First let me say that it is in NO way... I repeat NO WAY dramatic like in that ******ed show Grey's Anatomy or ER. I do not agree with infidelity nor am I guilty of it.

That being said, I happen to know a lot of Attendings and residents (mostly in NY) that have gone through multiple marriages, and guess who they end up remarrying??? Hospital staff/co-attendings/co-residents... no surprise there. You are interacting constantly with people in the hospital, where you spend most of your life (let's face it... you do). I'm not surprised at all that the website says that physicians are #1. This is of course just one website, but it is a very well publicized one.

But that's the thing, these physicians on this website are going home everyday and logging onto this website to find other people to cheat on their SOs with. So I assume they're looking for people outside the hospital setting.

 

[jl lin]

I truly feel that a big part of it, when it happens, is the long hours and working closely with people. It happens more than people know, but it happens more in certain areas than other areas.

I think you have to be really strong in what you believe, and if necessary, be prepared to run the other way. Some moments of attraction and vulnerability can end up costing a lot of pain and can complicate things in the work environment. Be wise and run the other way.

 

[morning]

I truly feel that a big part of it, when it happens, is the long hours and working closely with people. It happens more than people know, but it happens more in certain areas than other areas.

I think you have to be really strong in what you believe, and if necessary, be prepared to run the other way. Some moments of attraction and vulnerability can end up costing a lot of pain and can complicate things in the work environment. Be wise and run the other way.

Or have an open relationship. I definitely admire people who remain completely faithful for decades...but I also admire people who can accept each others' needs without jealousy.. A surprising amount of couples do accept extramarital experimenting...they just don't talk about it.

 

[dotdash]

How does that list compare to the base rate for each profession?

For women, that's secretaries, nurses, cashiers and teachers, in that order. The question seems to be -- why are the cashiers out looking?

 

[SusGob711]

Surprising? No..Disappointing? Yes. It's actually a shame. While some docs do hook up with w/e they can get their grimey little hands on I think it does really come down to the burden of lifestyle. It's darn near impossible to make a marriage work when one of them is always MIA. That's why it's just easier to be with someone who is there when/where you are. Perhaps hospitals should introduce conjugal visits--

 

[d1ony5u5]

Haha. this thread is hilarious, but also interesting.

From one perspective, I find it fascinating, given the context, that posters think it is likely to be men pretending to be doctors as opposed to actually being cheating doctors... That reflects on us, SDNers and our idiosyncrasies: "surely doctors wouldn't act that way, en masse. And anyways, if you can self-report your profession, why choose anything other than doctor?"

I don't think it is that surprising. Men are more given to promiscuity, and medicine is a prestigious, well-paying profession. Women tend to be attracted to those two characteristics that medicine offers. Couple that with men's tendencies to hump almost anything, and voila!

I have absolutely nothing to say about the moral/ethical implications of it. It just makes logical sense.

 

[IndianVercetti]

I don't think it is that surprising. Men are more given to promiscuity, and medicine is a prestigious, well-paying profession. Women tend to be attracted to those two characteristics that medicine offers. Couple that with men's tendencies to hump almost anything, and voila!

This is the 21st century, I think it's quite clear women have as much a propensity to cheat as men.

 

[rama kandra]

i for one cannot wait.

 

[cliffhuxtableDO]

This is the 21st century, I think it's quite clear women have as much a propensity to cheat as men.

agreed.

i for one cannot wait.

 

[theWUbear]

haha i was grumpy and sleep deprived...chill pill was needed

 

[d1ony5u5]

I don't think it is a matter of time period. It's just evident from all the guys I know and all the girls I know that males are more interested in variety than females are. I know this won't satisfy many, but I'm sure there are statistics making my case. Now, if I were motivated enough to look them up...

By the way, I don't mean to say that girls are any less capable of being promiscuous. In average, they just don't seem as interested...

Edit: in other words, propensity yes, inclination, not as much.

 

[searun]

If you are going to cheat, don't bang your patients. You will lose your license. Go to a bar or your high school reunion. And use a condom.

 

[rama kandra]

Reunion?...say it isnt so.

 

[morning]

If you are going to cheat, don't bang your patients. You will lose your license. Go to a bar or your high school reunion. And use a condom.

I didn't want to bang any of them when I was in HS and I still don't - I'm willing to bet there are even fewer teeth and more STDs now. But I went to Redneck Community High School.

 

[schrizto]

Go to a bar or your high school reunion. And use a condom.

Ew, no. Wasn't interested in high school, won't be now.

 

[schrizto]

I didn't want to bang any of them when I was in HS and I still don't - I'm willing to bet there are even fewer teeth and more STDs now. But I went to Redneck Community High School.

LOL we posted almost the exact same thing at the same time.

 

[rama kandra]

nahh man high school is different today...

 

[298609]

I don't think it is a matter of time period. It's just evident from all the guys I know and all the girls I know that males are more interested in variety than females are. I know this won't satisfy many, but I'm sure there are statistics making my case. Now, if I were motivated enough to look them up...

By the way, I don't mean to say that girls are any less capable of being promiscuous. In average, they just don't seem as interested...

Edit: in other words, propensity yes, inclination, not as much.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm disagree.

in the 60s that might be called a truth, however it was not because it was a truth, rather, because due to the culture of the time it appeared to be a truth.

our society has become much more accepting of women cheating (although not to the extent it is okay for a man to cheat) compared to what it was 50 yrs ago, so while it appears that men cheat more/want to cheat more/are more inclined to cheat more, it is more likely that we are AWARE of the men being inclined/cheating than we are of women.

it's kinda like the causation/correlation stuff with data...just because it appears more men cheat doesn't mean men are more inclined to (or even do cheat more than women, for that matter)

 

[IndianVercetti]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm disagree.

in the 60s that might be called a truth, however it was not because it was a truth, rather, because due to the culture of the time it appeared to be a truth.

our society has become much more accepting of women cheating (although not to the extent it is okay for a man to cheat) compared to what it was 50 yrs ago, so while it appears that men cheat more/want to cheat more/are more inclined to cheat more, it is more likely that we are AWARE of the men being inclined/cheating than we are of women.

it's kinda like the causation/correlation stuff with data...just because it appears more men cheat doesn't mean men are more inclined to (or even do cheat more than women, for that matter)

finally we can agree on something

like i said, this is the 21st century, women do the same things as men now. violence, driving intoxicated, crime, infidelity, you name it.

another small step towards equality...

 

[minicow]

this is funny

i was watching that real er show and one of the docs talked about how every doctor does something extreme outside of medicine...she said mentioned wild sex and rockclimbing...something along those lines


lol

 

[dingyibvs]

I don't think it is a matter of time period. It's just evident from all the guys I know and all the girls I know that males are more interested in variety than females are. I know this won't satisfy many, but I'm sure there are statistics making my case. Now, if I were motivated enough to look them up...

By the way, I don't mean to say that girls are any less capable of being promiscuous. In average, they just don't seem as interested...

Edit: in other words, propensity yes, inclination, not as much.

That's more because guys don't try to hide their whoreness nearly as much as girls.

 

[298609]

finally we can agree on something

like i said, this is the 21st century, women do the same things as men now. violence, driving intoxicated, crime, infidelity, you name it.

another small step towards equality...

while i'll agree women may be inclined to be as agressive and violent as men, from what i've read women seem to actually not be as violent. i think that is more due to testosterone levels though, rather than a sociological thing.

 

[rama kandra]

As a budding psychiatrist i will add that all your female base are belong to us.

 

[schrizto]

finally we can agree on something

like i said, this is the 21st century, women do the same things as men now. violence, driving intoxicated, crime, infidelity, you name it.

another small step towards equality...

Eh, statistically women still don't commit anywhere near as much violent crime as men do.

 

[298609]

As a budding psychiatrist i will add that all your female base are belong to us.

also, wtf IV? we agree a lot. esp on how awesome i am.

 

[sustentacular]

Well this was obviously a well controlled, highly scientific study, but I have a feeling they've excluded professional athlete from their research.

 

[jl lin]

Or have an open relationship. I definitely admire people who remain completely faithful for decades...but I also admire people who can accept each others' needs without jealousy.. A surprising amount of couples do accept extramarital experimenting...they just don't talk about it.

To this I must say, "YIKES!"

 

[IndianVercetti]

Eh, statistically women still don't commit anywhere near as much violent crime as men do.

Did you know that for every 100 domestic violence cases, 40 of them are estimated to involve the woman abusing the man?

The reason it isn't a prominent issue, or we are lulled into the belief that women are less violent, is that very few men report these things. Just imagine if a man hit his wife hard on the face. A confident, self-assured woman in this case would report this to a friend, or someone else.

However, if a woman hit her husband hard on the face, unfortunately many men feel that it would be a strike to his ego, or manhood if they were to try to see help - and they often try to mediate the situation on their own at home; which usually continues the cycle of violence.

 

[rama kandra]

somebody gonna get ahurt real soon.

 

[morning]

Did you know that for every 100 domestic violence cases, 40 of them are estimated to involve the woman abusing the man?

The reason it isn't a prominent issue, or we are lulled into the belief that women are less violent, is that very few men report these things. Just imagine if a man hit his wife hard on the face. A confident, self-assured woman in this case would report this to a friend, or someone else.

However, if a woman hit her husband hard on the face, unfortunately many men feel that it would be a strike to his ego, or manhood if they were to try to see help - and they often try to mediate the situation on their own at home; which usually continues the cycle of violence.

Studies, please...

I've seen women hit men in public, never seen the opposite, but I'm genuinely curious about the actual stats on this.

 

[rama kandra]

40 times out of the 100 times vercetti and his wife went at it, she took first strike.