Does OMS have a future

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I saw the recent “does ortho have a future” thread and want to ask the same about oms and endo. What’s the perception for the future of these specialities? It seems that GPs are doing more of their own surgery including complex “bread and butter” oms procedures like all on x and complicated wisdom teeth as well as more of their own endo.

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it's ****ed. please go into ortho
 
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it's ****ed. please go into ortho
Maybe I posted in the wrong section. This question is more geared to current oms or endo docs and their real life view of the specialties, not dental students or residents
 
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Maybe I posted in the wrong section. This question is more geared to current oms or endo docs and their real life view of the specialties, not dental students or residents
Are you a dental student? Or a pre-dental student?
 
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Maybe I posted in the wrong section. This question is more geared to current oms or endo docs and their real life view of the specialties, not dental students or residents
I would go to dentaltown and ask this. You’ll find the ratio of dental students/predents here much higher than there. Only a few residents and current OMS regularly come on here
 
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Are you a dental student? Or a pre-dental student?
I would go to dentaltown and ask this. You’ll find the ratio of dental students/predents here much higher than there. Only a few residents and current OMS regularly come on here
Maybe sublimazing or some of the other docs will chime in
 
Maybe sublimazing or some of the other docs will chime in
It has a future, that's all you need to know.. If anything, the types of cases that will get referred to an OS would be more complicated as you noted that some GPs are starting to do some simpler cases/implants but that's not going to stop those same cases from being referred out by other GPs.. regardless, OS has a future lol
 
Both have future, you would just have to work harder. As you said, simpler procedures are done by GPs now
 
Yes, and the future is bright. There is a perception that all GPs are becoming super-GPS, but that’s really not the case, or even an issue. Referrals for FME and thirds are still flowing. Patients still want to be asleep for extractions. Many GPs rethink their stance on tackling difficult wisdom teeth after being humbled a few times and wasting a ton of chair time. Income in OMFS is largely limited by practice style, not by availability of referrals
 
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Yes, and the future is bright. There is a perception that all GPs are becoming super-GPS, but that’s really not the case, or even an issue. Referrals for FME and thirds are still flowing. Patients still want to be asleep for extractions. Many GPs rethink their stance on tackling difficult wisdom teeth after being humbled a few times and wasting a ton of chair time. Income in OMFS is largely limited by practice style, not by availability of referrals
How can you be so sure as a resident?
 
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For Endo, you can do 4 procedures a day plus some consults and make a very good living. Once you are more established you probably wish you were only doing 4 a day. GP’s do a ton of their own Endo and they have been for a couple decades. But as dental students and young dentists quickly discover is that it can be time consuming and a “simple” Endo can quickly turn into a nightmare. So case selection for them becomes very important. Endo isn’t going anywhere. And just as GP’s are enjoying new Endo tech, so are we. So magnification and rotary equipment that makes your life easier on what would general be a “Endodontist” case makes our life easier on a difficult retreat, surgery, or really hard case. Ultimately and hopefully increasing prognosis and patients willingness to try and save their teeth.

There are super GP’s out there but they aren’t as common as people think. Most GP’s I know don’t do much Endo, try and learn implants, dabble with Invisalign but not bracketing, don’t do surgical 3rds, minimal perio surgeries, etc. There is too much money and too many patients who need crown/ bridge/ implants/ hygiene/ recall/ restorative/ esthetic needs to deal with certain specialty headache areas IMO. Unless you are well versed in those specialties and know how to deal with the headaches efficiently and effectively.
 
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For Endo, you can do 4 procedures a day plus some consults and make a very good living. Once you are more established you probably wish you were only doing 4 a day. GP’s do a ton of their own Endo and they have been for a couple decades. But as dental students and young dentists quickly discover is that it can be time consuming and a “simple” Endo can quickly turn into a nightmare. So case selection for them becomes very important. Endo isn’t going anywhere. And just as GP’s are enjoying new Endo tech, so are we. So magnification and rotary equipment that makes your life easier on what would general be a “Endodontist” case makes our life easier on a difficult retreat, surgery, or really hard case. Ultimately and hopefully increasing prognosis and patients willingness to try and save their teeth.

There are super GP’s out there but they aren’t as common as people think. Most GP’s I know don’t do much Endo, try and learn implants, dabble with Invisalign but not bracketing, don’t do surgical 3rds, minimal perio surgeries, etc. There is too much money and too many patients who need crown/ bridge/ implants/ hygiene/ recall/ restorative/ esthetic needs to deal with certain specialty headache areas IMO. Unless you are well versed in those specialties and know how to deal with the headaches efficiently and effectively.
Just wait. In a few days someone will post "Does endo have a future?" then perio, prost and so forth.
 
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Just wait. In a few days someone will post "Does endo have a future?" then perio, prost and so forth.
Lol. Any Dentist that’s been working long enough KNOWS that it does. Same with Ortho, OMFS, and PEDS. I don’t have as much insight with perio and prosth honestly. But I’m sure they will be fine.
 
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How can you be so sure as a resident?
To be frank, I interact with and discuss this specifically with a lot of practicing OMS and General dentists. It pays to keep an eye on these things when you’re deciding where to establish yourself. Obviously, the reality varies depending on location, practice environment, and a number of other factors, but I don’t think anyone considers OMS to be a dying specialty by any means.
 
Just wait. In a few days someone will post "Does endo have a future?" then perio, prost and so forth.

There are a lot of these threads popping up on the dental forums, mostly by pre-dents who haven’t started dental school yet. Those questions IMO should be asked during dental school, not before. Those questions go with in-depth and elevated discussions with dental students, residents and specialists.

I asked those questions as a pre-dent once, and I was just looking for “how much do they make?” “What’s their lifestyle?” answers... rather than “how hard are the cases?” “How are case acceptances?”, etc.
 
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Seems like most points have already been brought up, but yes, OMFS has a future. The thing with OMFS is the scope is so broad. So your "future" will really depend on what type of career you want. But regardless, there are many opportunities.

Everyone will be fine.
 
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Yeah duh it'll have a future. Easy million dollar salaries.
 
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