Does this qualify as "applying broadly"??

yeah, that is pretty broad. i personally would take u of wash off the list. they really really really favor instate/WWAMI people. very few oos get interviews, and normally those that do come from disadvantaged backgrounds. that is just my two cents though. best of luck

 

68 is the "magic" number for MI? I've heard that Cali is like at least 70

 

I'd say you've done your homework. Nice job, and good luck!

 

nice yeah my school list should have looked more like this and less like "Dartmouth Chicago Yale Stanford Cornell etc" cause damn i wasted a lot of money

 

Yeah, take the University of Washington off of your list, you are just wasting your money. U of W will never happen if you are Michigan resident with those numbers. Hopkins will not happen either, but if you want to dream, then dream, just don't make it a wet dream. At least you had the good sense not to apply to Washington U, a school that is obsessed with numbers that you are not going to have. The rest of your list looks pretty good. Good luck.

 

So you just finished your senior year and you'll be applying now?

How do your ECs look? Your numbers look pretty similar to mine, and you're applying to a lot of the same schools.

Frankly I would cut it down. I know everyone says 15-20 is "average" and better to be safe than sorry but its a lot of wasted money. I applied to 21 originally and withdrew from more than half of those by October. It was a lot of wasted secondary/primary fees. Your numbers are good and if your ECs/interviewing skills and activities during your time off are decent too then you'll be fine with 10-15 schools. Look at the bigger details of the list because they kind of jump. Eg you say that Hopkins is your dream school, which is very research heavy. But a lot of the schools you picked have heavy emphasis on primary care. Decide what emphasis you want, what kind of environment you want and what kind of location you would be happiest at - and then cut at least 10 schools off that list.

Goodluck.

 

Your list looks good. I am guessing youl get around a 32 mcat, due to test day stress/pressure/ annoying guy tapping pencil. But I agree with the others cancel out WASH U. I bet you can even cut off some of the lower tier ones and save some money. You should get in pretty easily just practice interviewing!

 

It's absolutely impossible to determine what schools you have a shot at with only GPA + MCAT (and a projected one, at that!)

NYMC baffles the hell out of me though

 

Consider adding Ohio State and Wake Forest. These shcools are well represented with Michigan folks.

 

An initial look over your list seems good...but then I realized that you're applying to 1-3 top 10 schools and then a whole lot of 30-60+ ranked schools, but you don't have any top 20/20s schools (correct me if I'm wrong). Now maybe you're avoiding all of these for a reason, but I would add in one or two, and personally, remove GW unless you have a really good reason for applying there. They tend to get a TON of apps b/c everyone thinks they're a solid mid-tier school so people apply there both as a safety and a reach, and it's very difficult to get an interview.

 

U of Washington only accept OOS if they are URM. Johns Hopkins probably has cutoff at 3.6 / 32.

 

Is UT Southwestern considered top-tier school? Or Baylor?

 

Actually they interview like 1000 people every year. So if 13000 apply 1/13 get an interview - thats not bad odds. Getting an acceptance is tough.

To the OP - if you aren't big on community medicine or volunteerism I would cut GW. From the other threads around it seems they have a heavy emphasis on that and like people who are passionate about that.

 

Not really. The op should consider GW as a backup in case he doesnt get into the better schools he is capable of. Always keep a lower tier as a backup especially one of the ones that is easier to garner an acceptance from. So keep GW But also add Ohiostate as someone said they do love michiginians!

 

Back already troll?

OP - this guy is some pathetic loser who has never applied to med school and has nothing better to do all day than to repeatedly make proxies and make new accounts and troll a pre-med forum - ignore him.

GWU accepted like 400/1000 interviewees last year. So its not that tough, but like I said - if you aren't big into volunteering etc. it may be tough.

 

I'm not URM, a Cali resident, and got into UWashington with 3.5 and 30 mcat. So apply if you want to go there!

 

why did that guy LAteInterview or whatever get banned?

 

This taken from UWash's statement given to USNWR for their 2006 "ultimate guide"

"Residents from the states of Washington, Wyoming, Alaska, Montana, and Idaho are eligible to apply. Proof of residency is required. Residents from outside the region who come from disadvantaged backgrounds and/or who have demonstrated a commitment to serving underserved populations will be considered. Individuals with a demonstrated interest in research may apply for the M.D./Ph.D. program regardless of residency."

So Vitapita, congratulations on your incomprehensible success, but you're either absolutely clueless or being intentionally obtuse. If it's the latter, keep up the good work

 

its something SDN people made up to make them feel better about the schools they did or did not get in to.

there are no "tiers" it's a law school thing.

 

No research experience whatsover? Take Hopkins of your list then. To get into those top schools at least one aspect of your appl. has to particularly stand out, as it stands now all of your stats and experiences are average.

 

I am curious about how Texas works for OOSers...

 

I am mainly writing in regard to the Texas schools. In my experience, Baylor and Southwestern are considered elite schools, and, yes, they are very difficult to get into, especially with little research experience. I would probably cross them both off your list. As for the other Texas schools, they are all probably fair game, though you'll have to really stand out among other OOS applicants. As for the rest of your list, you should likely be in the mix at most of those schools. Last but not least, cross off any school that you know with certainty you would not attend. I know many people would go anywhere if they had to, but some, albeit few, would rather wait another year than go to certain parts of the country. It's important because you want to be somewhere where you know you can perform. As long as you break 30, have all of your ducks in a row, write a heartfelt essay, and APPLY EARLY, you will hopefully have some options.

 

getting into texas schools being OOS looks hard based on the numbers...b/c of state law and their own preferences, they all only accept 5-10% OOS (at least that's how it was when I was applying). Now if you're a great applicant applying to some of the "lower tier" tx schools, maybe your chances are better...but for UTSW? I don't know...not great.

 

What does this mean? Like if a person set up an ophanage or cured cancer or has awesome stats?

 

are u in the md/phd program though?

 

I really think you are a solid LOCK at Wayne State with those numbers, but they like the MCAT, a lot, and if you go south of that 31-32 range everything goes out the window. But a 33 and a 3.5 and a solid interview should get you in... MSU-CHM (MD school) will only interview people who show some form of interest in primary care on their application, maybe you might want to talk about how much you liked shadowing that family practice doc so they give you an interview?

If you get a high enough MCAT you might interview early enough at Wayne so they give you that October acceptance and you can start turning down some of those schools you're less interested in... good luck!

 

I think your updates list looks good. You probably shouldn't bother applying to U of Utah unless you have ties to the state. Some schools that you might consider adding are University of Illinois and Tufts.