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Everyone please voice your opinion. I support it, but more importanly what do you think. or
Puppet said:Everyone please voice your opinion. I support it, but more importanly what do you think. or
i'd love to watch you in action on some sort of ethics debate team. i think i'd even pay for it.typeB-md said:people who say no are the biggest *****s in the world.
holy crap, i don't know if i'm suddenly ******ed or what, but i've seen some classic posting on SDN tonight! (not mocking the post or anything, it just tickled me the right way).melimi said:i'm pro suicide....i wouldnt mind giving them a gun so they can do it themself
melimi said:i'm undecided
even tho i'm pro suicide, i think euthanasia depends on a lot of contextual factors. cuz i dont care if someone kills themself (its their right), but bringing someone else into the picture is kind of iffy.
i dunno, i would feel weird killing someone, but i wouldnt mind giving them a gun so they can do it themself..... thats how i feel about it.... i dunno
i'll let u know when i get there
Alexander Pink said:Perhaps you also should have put different categories for active and passive euthanasia.
Puppet said:Thent they dont deserve to be in the gene pool.
Ambs said:I don't agree with sustaining someone's life who is terminally ill, whose quality of life is absolutely horrible, who is physically suffering with no return. But someone who is perfectly healthy should, in my opinion, not be assisted with his/her death. In that event, I think that they should be immediately referred for psychological help or some other therapeutic treatment. I wouldn't automatically acknowledge a patient's request to die by assisting them; instead, I'd see if they could be helped. I've worked in the medical field for several years now, and I've seen severely depressed patients who have had multiple suicide attempts change their lives for the better. Maybe I'm overly optimistic, but I am always willing to try to see if someone can change.
LevatorAni said:current PAS laws in oregon require psychiatric evaluation and counseling before PAS is allowed. it's pretty obvious that someone with a terminal disease will be depressed and that's understandable. but, with proper counseling, if that person decides they want to die before the disease takes their life, let that be the final decision.
Ambs said:I don't agree with sustaining someone's life who is terminally ill, whose quality of life is absolutely horrible, who is physically suffering with no return. But someone who is perfectly healthy should, in my opinion, not be assisted with his/her death. In that event, I think that they should be immediately referred for psychological help or some other therapeutic treatment. I wouldn't automatically acknowledge a patient's request to die by assisting them; instead, I'd see if they could be helped. I've worked in the medical field for several years now, and I've seen severely depressed patients who have had multiple suicide attempts change their lives for the better. Maybe I'm overly optimistic, but I am always willing to try to see if someone can change.
aprilshyla said:There's a difference between "euthanasia" and "physician-assisted suicide."
Straight up euthansia is like when we put our animals to sleep. The decision is solely the doctor's to make, without the opinion of the patient or DNRs or next-of-kin. I can see very few instances where this could be acceptable, ie, a extremely physically deformed infant who only has a few hours maximum to live, and even that is debateable to some.
Then you have passive vs active euthanasia; passive is defined by inaction, ie, the doctor does NOT give life support to a dying individual (usually the easier one to swallow), whereas active is defined by the WITHDRAWL of life support in some way (removing feeding tube or ventilator), like the cruz/terry's law case (which, imho, they did the right thing in the end by withdrawing life support, especially since both expressed the desire to never be kept alive on machines when they were alive).
Physician assisted suicide is where the physician prescribes a lethal dose of a certain medicine that the patient then takes themselves, or sets up a system so that the patient twitches or pulls a lever or whatever is physically possible for them and causes their own death. The deal here is that the patient is the one who ultimately takes his own life, hence, suicide, but with the help of a physician who does NOT perform the final act.
These have very fine shades of differences in them, but I think they are important to the overall debate in what should or should not be legal.
Personally, I think every individual has the right to life as well as death, when the dignity of life is no longer possible. Of course "dignity of life" is something that must be personally defined too, it could be compromised for one person when they lose their legs due to diabetes, it could be still very much alive for another person who is completely paralyzed and dependent on others to live, and in both cases I think it ultimately comes down to the individual. So make sure we all fill out one of those advance directives sometime.
Puppet said:Thent they dont deserve to be in the gene pool.
tacrum43 said:Nice. You're going to make a caring physician one day.
mercaptovizadeh said:The logical conclusion of evolution is Nazism, along the euthanasia, death camps, slave labor, subhuman races, and genocide.
mercaptovizadeh said:The logical conclusion of evolution is Nazism, along the euthanasia, death camps, slave labor, subhuman races, and genocide.
Rzarecta said:Do you even understand the crap that comes out of your mouth?
That's because scumbags will use and pervert anything they can find to support their twisted ideology, not out of anything inherently wrong with the theory of evolution. If those fools actually gave a damn about the implications of the TOE, then they would have understood that the more genetically diverse population is more likely to survive.mercaptovizadeh said:This is not crap - it's true. Nazism evolved not from Christianity or the enlightenment, it evolved from evolution. Survival of the fittest - embodied by the political, military, economic superiority of the Germanic peoples over the "inferior" mentally ******ed, Jews, Romas, and Slavs, and the "Latin Rabble."
Blue Scrub said:I agree that, in certain situations, a patient may want to end their lives with dignity and without pain, and who else will know better how to do that than a trained physician. However, we as physicians will take the Hippocratic Oath, pledging that we shall do "no harm". We're in the profession of maintaining and preserving life, and its a tough position we will be put in when we're approached by someone who wishes to end their lives...I'd like to say I would help out the best way I can...