DON'T do dentistry for the $

[amariesa]

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Just another thought. Why do you think you are going to have non working wife and two children in day care? Do you plan to marry uneducated or very ill individual? What normal people usually do is either have children in daycare and a working spouse or stay home spouse and no day care expenses. Both are reserved for wealthy people who don't know what else to do and have too much money or stupid, who spend too much money so they can work more

A lot of women take the kids first year off from work. If you have 2 kids, thats 2ish years off work. So no, women who take time off work arent uneducated or ill. Most day care takes toddlers not babies.

 

[oralcare123]

A lot of women take the kids first year off from work. If you have 2 kids, thats 2ish years off work. So no, women who take time off work arent uneducated or ill. Most day care takes toddlers not babies.

Really? Let me inform you- day care takes babies from 2 months old, that is how long maternity leave usually lasts. Most women take that off. The ones who stay home , stay without using day care, only occasional nanny or relative help. If you plan on having 2 or 3 children then use a live in nanny, who is payed minimum wage , also cooks and cleans your house. So nothing is as depressing as described by OP

 

[amariesa]

Really? Let me inform you- day care takes babies from 2 months old, that is how long maternity leave usually lasts. Most women take that off. The ones who stay home , stay without using day care, only occasional nanny or relative help. If you plan on having 2 or 3 children then use a live in nanny, who is payed minimum wage , also cooks and cleans your house. So nothing is as depressing as described by OP

Your right, most moms take 8 weeks off for maternity. Spot on!

 

[Medstudent 98]

Accounting is pretty awesome if it's your cup of tea. I have 3 siblings working at a big four, 2 senior managers and 1 partner. They love their jobs and boy do they have time and money.

True. I have an uncle and aunt (married) who are both accountants and they make a ton of money, it also helps that they had kids a little later on. Though they've told me they don't particularly like their jobs but they pay the bills and help them finance their passions. (My uncle is a politician and my aunt runs a cake decorating business on the side.)

 

[Kurk]

Just another thought. Why do you think you are going to have non working wife and two children in day care? Do you plan to marry uneducated or very ill individual? What normal people usually do is either have children in daycare and a working spouse or stay home spouse and no day care expenses. Both are reserved for wealthy people who don't know what else to do and have too much money or stupid, who spend too much money so they can work more

Eugh...I wasn't raised by a daycare and would never want my kids to be either (which is why I don't plan on having any). I have no problem with working women, but believe that parenting is the most important job one will ever have.

 

[SmileItsLife]

Eugh...I wasn't raised by a daycare and would never want my kids to be either (which is why I don't plan on having any). I have no problem with working women, but believe that parenting is the most important job one will ever have.

What's wrong with daycare?

 

[amariesa]

Eugh...I wasn't raised by a daycare and would never want my kids to be either (which is why I don't plan on having any). I have no problem with working women, but believe that parenting is the most important job one will ever have.

Agreed. I don't think men should work over staying home to take care of their kids as well. I believe parenting is more important than your career and desires.

 

[Giovanotto]

Agreed. I don't think men should work over staying home to take care of their kids as well. I believe parenting is more important than your career and desires.

Men don't form or have the same attachment to their child as the mother does. Also, men (most?) can't breastfeed, and a man breastfeeding a child with pre-pumped milk isn't remotely the same. The women also can experience positive health effects from being with the child post-partum. But hey, you do you. This is all to say that early on, the mother is better suited to stay with the child (1st-ish year), but after that, I agree. Women haven't been the caregivers for hundreds of years out of coincidence, there is clearly a good reason for it.

 

[Universitygeek]

I have more experience than you, obviously. You created a nice theory, but it wouldn't work
Wealthy people don't know what else to do? You are so funny. Keep thinking this way
So you offer me to keep buying crappy quality clothes from Walmart and drive Toyota Corolla for the rest of my life? Thanks, you made my day

You probably do have more experience than me just like the baby boomers who collectively had $1.1 billion of their social security payments garnished last year to pay for student loans that they had cosigned.
What's the issue with driving a Toyota Corolla? It gets the job done. If your self-image is dependent on the price of your car, you're living life to satisfy others and not yourself. CPAs especially if they were smart enough to get into dental school should be able to make decent money. I doubt they'd need to buy clothes from Walmart.

 

[oralcare123]

Eugh...I wasn't raised by a daycare and would never want my kids to be either (which is why I don't plan on having any). I have no problem with working women, but believe that parenting is the most important job one will ever have.

Sure, if you can afford to. But, believe me, soon you will find yourself in a situation when you want to be with someone and want to procreate

 

[oralcare123]

What's wrong with daycare?

Nothing. He has no knowledge of one

 

[oralcare123]

Agreed. I don't think men should work over staying home to take care of their kids as well. I believe parenting is more important than your career and desires.

Balance is the most important thing

 

[oralcare123]

You probably do have more experience than me just like the baby boomers who collectively had $1.1 billion of their social security payments garnished last year to pay for student loans that they had cosigned.
What's the issue with driving a Toyota Corolla? It gets the job done. If your self-image is dependent on the price of your car, you're living life to satisfy others and not yourself. CPAs especially if they were smart enough to get into dental school should be able to make decent money. I doubt they'd need to buy clothes from Walmart.

You probably never drove Audi or BMW. Try. It's not about the price, but performance, design and comfort

 

[2TH MVR]

You probably do have more experience than me just like the baby boomers who collectively had $1.1 billion of their social security payments garnished last year to pay for student loans that they had cosigned.
What's the issue with driving a Toyota Corolla? It gets the job done. If your self-image is dependent on the price of your car, you're living life to satisfy others and not yourself. CPAs especially if they were smart enough to get into dental school should be able to make decent money. I doubt they'd need to buy clothes from Walmart.

There's nothing wrong with a Corolla ... if you like driving an appliance. That's fine. Just because people with means can afford nice cars doesn't mean they don't appreciate quality family time. Cars are my passion. I don't buy nice cars to project some sort of image. The cars, in my case, is the reward for working 6 days a week. The cars, and boats, allow me to spend my passion with my family.

Below is a photo of my oldest daughter and myself on a R8 cruise across the state. It was one of the most memorable trips in a long time and I spent quality time with my daughter who by the way shares my passion for cars.

The background looks fuzzy because the photographer did some weird stuff to the original photo. btw. I do not own the R8 anymore. Looking at something different now. A new experience.

 

[Kurk]

Sure, if you can afford to. But, believe me, soon you will find yourself in a situation when you want to be with someone and want to procreate

Hormones are a tricky business, aren't they? I'm getting a vasectomy as soon as I can afford it and am in the process of considering chemical castration (leuprolide). I've always valued rationalism and have noticed that hormones, emotions, whatever are always screwing up my balance of life. I'm better off without it and believe that these "animal" instincts are only holding me back from my potential.

You probably never drove Audi or BMW. Try. It's not about the price, but performance, design and comfort

You can get that from Lexus, which is pretty much a fancied up Toyota. It's not about the price; it's about the depreciation. I'd rather pick up a $80,000 Land Cruiser over the equivalent German car knowing that one won't have lost half its value in 5 years.

Additionally, I've always valued the ability to work on your own car. While the ease of access on all new cars is decreasing, German cars in particular are a real pain as they've essentially become ipads on wheels. Few independent mechanics can work on the newer ones since it would mean spending tens-of-thousands of dollars on special dealer-level scan-tools and software. The only real option when you're out of warranty is to get raped by the dealer for routine service.

Speaking of monopolies, have you heard about the German car cartel scandal? I don't trust them. Remember VW's dieselgate scandal? They're shady companies.

And remember; your German car probably was made in Mexico, Philippines, or some other developing country. So much for that quality.

 

[Giovanotto]

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Additionally, I've always valued the ability to work on your own car. While the ease of access on all new cars is decreasing, German cars in particular are a real pain as they've essentially become ipads on wheels. Few independent mechanics can work on the newer ones since it would mean spending tens-of-thousands of dollars on special dealer-level scan-tools and software. The only real option when you're out of warranty is to get raped by the dealer for routine service.

Speaking of monopolies, have you heard about the German car cartel scandal? I don't trust them. Remember VW's dieselgate scandal? They're shady companies.

And remember; your German car probably was made in Mexico, Philippines, or some other developing country. So much for that quality.

100% agree.

 

[caffeine jitters]

Hormones are a tricky business, aren't they? I'm getting a vasectomy as soon as I can afford it and am in the process of considering chemical castration (leuprolide). I've always valued rationalism and have noticed that hormones, emotions, whatever are always screwing up my balance of life. I'm better off without it and believe that these "animal" instincts are only holding me back from my potential.

:troll:

 

[Kurk]

:troll:

And as unbelievably sad and pathetic as it may sound, I mean it sincerely. Feel free to DM me if you'd like to discuss my reasoning.

 

[deleted103644]

Who the **** wants to be an accountant for the rest of their lives?

Who the **** wants to be a dentist?

(My apologies, I may have stumbled into the wrong forum.)

In all seriousness though, you guys have a good gig when it comes to insurance. If dental coverage ever gets treated like medical, you’re all pretty ****ed. Don’t know how you managed to avoid our misfortune, but wouldn’t bet on the walled garden lasting forever.

 

[Kurk]

Who the **** wants to be a dentist?

(My apologies, I may have stumbled into the wrong forum.)

In all seriousness though, you guys have a good gig when it comes to insurance. If dental coverage ever gets treated like medical, you’re all pretty ****ed. Don’t know how you managed to avoid our misfortune, but wouldn’t bet on the walled garden lasting forever.

And that's what I'm afraid of. When will happen? No one knows.

 

[oralcare123]

Hormones are a tricky business, aren't they? I'm getting a vasectomy as soon as I can afford it and am in the process of considering chemical castration (leuprolide). I've always valued rationalism and have noticed that hormones, emotions, whatever are always screwing up my balance of life. I'm better off without it and believe that these "animal" instincts are only holding me back from my potential.

You can get that from Lexus, which is pretty much a fancied up Toyota. It's not about the price; it's about the depreciation. I'd rather pick up a $80,000 Land Cruiser over the equivalent German car knowing that one won't have lost half its value in 5 years.

Additionally, I've always valued the ability to work on your own car. While the ease of access on all new cars is decreasing, German cars in particular are a real pain as they've essentially become ipads on wheels. Few independent mechanics can work on the newer ones since it would mean spending tens-of-thousands of dollars on special dealer-level scan-tools and software. The only real option when you're out of warranty is to get raped by the dealer for routine service.

Speaking of monopolies, have you heard about the German car cartel scandal? I don't trust them. Remember VW's dieselgate scandal? They're shady companies.

And remember; your German car probably was made in Mexico, Philippines, or some other developing country. So much for that quality.

Again, sweetie, you don't know what you are talking about.
I would never get behind a Lexus wheel, I prefer to drive a car, not the other way around
Good luck with castration

 

[Kurk]

Again, sweetie, you don't know what you are talking about.
I would never get behind a Lexus wheel, I prefer to drive a car, not the other way around
Good luck with castration

Let's use an example:
The 2011 Mercedes GL class had an MSRP ranging between 60-84K
The 2011 Toyota Landcruiser had an MSRP of about 69K

6 years later, the average asking price of the benz on Auto Trader ranges from the high teens to the low-mid twenties. The landcruiser: The lowest asking price was 41K with prices ranging up to 50K.
Both searches were for cars with 75k miles or fewer.

So I think the market has spoken as to which car is more highly desired. I know a prominent lawyer in my area. He can be seen driving around in his 4runner. Another wealthy businessman alumni of my school regularly drives his landcruiser.

Do I want to take a $40,000+ hit for 6 years of having a three-pointed star on my grill? Or should I have the ability to sell my Toyota for at least half of its original MSRP after the same period of time?

 

[2TH MVR]

@Kurk

or you can lease these same cars through your privately owned dental office. Write off most of the lease payments, maintenance, gas, etc less any limited personal use. Leasing is a business expense pre-tax.

 

[Kurk]

@Kurk

or you can lease these same cars through your privately owned dental office. Write off most of the lease payments, maintenance, gas, etc less any limited personal use. Leasing is a business expense pre-tax.

Hmm...I never thought about that.

 

[blablabla1]

Who the **** wants to be a dentist?

(My apologies, I may have stumbled into the wrong forum.)

In all seriousness though, you guys have a good gig when it comes to insurance. If dental coverage ever gets treated like medical, you’re all pretty ****ed. Don’t know how you managed to avoid our misfortune, but wouldn’t bet on the walled garden lasting forever.

We have a much stronger lobbying group than med does. Dental lobbying has always been a big part of the dental community and when medical started getting screwed, the ADA just doubled down on the efforts to protect the profession.

 

[Giovanotto]

We have a much stronger lobbying group than med does. Dental lobbying has always been a big part of the dental community and when medical started getting screwed, the ADA just doubled down on the efforts to protect the profession.

You mean like how the ADA is running to save dental students from rising tuition costs? Give me a break.

 

[8_man]

We have a much stronger lobbying group than med does. Dental lobbying has always been a big part of the dental community and when medical started getting screwed, the ADA just doubled down on the efforts to protect the profession.

 

[blablabla1]

You mean like how the ADA is running to save dental students from rising tuition costs? Give me a break.

Schools aren’t running out of applicants, are they? They are there to protect the profession. If students are still applying to dental schools in droves, lowering tuition costs isn’t their #1 priority.

 

[Universitygeek]

There's nothing wrong with a Corolla ... if you like driving an appliance. That's fine. Just because people with means can afford nice cars doesn't mean they don't appreciate quality family time. Cars are my passion. I don't buy nice cars to project some sort of image. The cars, in my case, is the reward for working 6 days a week. The cars, and boats, allow me to spend my passion with my family.

Below is a photo of my oldest daughter and myself on a R8 cruise across the state. It was one of the most memorable trips in a long time and I spent quality time with my daughter who by the way shares my passion for cars.

The background looks fuzzy because the photographer did some weird stuff to the original photo. btw. I do not own the R8 anymore. Looking at something different now. A new experience.



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If you actually enjoy the cars and are willing to sacrifice a couple of extra years from your finite life to afford them, then I have no qualms whatsoever. You're not the person I'm trying to convince. There are people out there who only care about the image that the car gives them and not the car itself or don't realize how many years of their life they're trading for the car. Those are the people I'm trying to convince.

 

[2TH MVR]

If you actually enjoy the cars and are willing to sacrifice a couple of extra years from your finite life to afford them, then I have no qualms whatsoever. You're not the person I'm trying to convince. There are people out there who only care about the image that the car gives them and not the car itself or don't realize how many years of their life they're trading for the car. Those are the people I'm trying to convince.

Sacrifice? I am not sacrificing anything. I am living my life TODAY while I am still relatively able to. I am 55 years old and believe me when I tell you that as you get older .... health issues just become more and more common. By your logic ... you should live as a hermit with no heat, electric, A/C. Eat ramin all day. Walk to work. Since anything else is "sacrificing" finite years. Sell that Corolla and buy a Yaris and save a few more months of your finite life.

Work. Plan. Enjoy. 😉

 

[Kurk]

Health issues are a real thing. Plan while your're young. Eat the right foods, get a workout regimen, abstain from drugs and alcohol.

 

[Kurk]

Let's use an example:
The 2011 Mercedes GL class had an MSRP ranging between 60-84K
The 2011 Toyota Landcruiser had an MSRP of about 69K

6 years later, the average asking price of the benz on Auto Trader ranges from the high teens to the low-mid twenties. The landcruiser: The lowest asking price was 41K with prices ranging up to 50K.
Both searches were for cars with 75k miles or fewer.

So I think the market has spoken as to which car is more highly desired. I know a prominent lawyer in my area. He can be seen driving around in his 4runner. Another wealthy businessman alumni of my school regularly drives his landcruiser.

Do I want to take a $40,000+ hit for 6 years of having a three-pointed star on my grill? Or should I have the ability to sell my Toyota for at least half of its original MSRP after the same period of time?

And on a side note, doesn't anyone find this pretty ironic considering one of the first posts I made upon joining (also the stem of my infamy on SDN) a year ago was this thread: Why is there a stigma attached to wanting to own "fancy cars" on SDN?