DO's who could have gone to a US MD school?

[JaggerPlate]

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It was a figure of speech. Anyone who didn't pick up on that is obviously looking to flame anyone/anything possible.


I would dare say that I know a fair amount about what it is like to be a medical student and would say that I know (at least more than yourself) what it is like to be a DO.



According to all your other posts on this thread, I have to agree that you do your fair share of calling out (i.e. flaming). Maybe you are compensating for something that you lack. Self confidence? An acceptance of your own? i just can't quite put my finger on it, but there is definitely something.

Hey look we actually agree on something. Considering that this was the whole gist of my entire initial post, we could have saved ourselves a lot of time and typing if it weren't for your big ego.

Hmmm ... well, first, I really think you're a little confused on what 'flaming' on SDN truly is. Second, for a guy who is so anti-flaming, you certainly called me out/insulted me a lot in that post. This is expected, since I did the same, but still ... a bit hypocritical.

Now, on to my lacking. Yes, I can tell you what I lack. I lack the understanding and point of these MD vs DO wars and bashing on osteopathic medicine in general. I know that 'isn't' what you were doing, but this is what I lack. I'll never understand why (pre) allos seem to think avg gpa and mcat matriculation stats indicate superiority, why people assume DO schools are backup, why people have to ask questions like did anyone chose DO over MD, etc etc etc etc etc etc. This is what I lack, and nothing else (😉).

I'm glad we could agree on something. I actually think we agree on the entire MD vs DO thing, and the only thing keeping us from a civil discussion is internet banter, 'ego,' 'flaming,' etc. Its no matter though, as long as we are on the same page.

 

[MossPoh]

Hey, no matter what happens. I know I'll have the bigger...... well, you get the picture. If not, I can send it.

 

[endocardium]

I'll never understand why (pre) allos seem to think avg gpa and mcat matriculation stats indicate superiority, why people assume DO schools are backup, why people have to ask questions like did anyone chose DO over MD, etc etc etc etc etc etc. This is what I lack, and nothing else (😉).

Eh, there's nothing to understand... It's the nature of the game. I've seen it ebb and tide, time and again... I suggest we learn to accept it, because, unfortunately, the type of thinking you are referencing is here to stay. Anyway, the way to fight ignorance and lack of knowledge is by providing the straight facts, or at least some reference by which the individual might obtain the facts. I understand your frustration, though. However, you do have a choice in the matter, and how you act in each situation says a whole lot.

 

[HarMegido]

i chose DO over MD because of the philosophy and OMM. it is a growing field (harvard is offering OMM class now!). also, the DO students seem to be more humble and these are the type of people i want to associate myself with.

 

[MossPoh]

Eh, there's nothing to understand... It's the nature of the game. I've seen it ebb and tide, time and again... I suggest we learn to accept it, because, unfortunately, the type of thinking you are referencing is here to stay. Anyway, the way to fight ignorance and lack of knowledge is by providing the straight facts, or at least some reference by which the individual might obtain the facts. I understand your frustration, though. However, you do have a choice in the matter, and how you act in each situation says a whole lot.

I think it is by DO students consistently kicking MD students up and down the hospital hallways with regards to skills and knowledge. That one person that is mediocre in the hospital will set judgements really fast.

 

[Instatewaiter]

Can someone toss me a link to this philosophy I keep hearing about?

I never like sinicism because I think it’s an attempt to compensate for something that’s lacking....However, here's a link http://www.aacom.org/Pages/default.aspx
Also, the AACOMAS website: https://aacomas.aacom.org/, click on medical schools, and go to any of their websites -- they'll tell you all you need to know.
--G.

Clearly as a resident he was trying to compensate instead of implying that in the hospital the 'difference in philosophy' that is so popular on this site is total BS.

what is sinicism?

I'll never understand why (pre) allos seem to think avg gpa and mcat matriculation stats indicate superiority, why people assume DO schools are backup, why people have to ask questions like did anyone chose DO over MD, etc etc etc etc etc etc. This is what I lack, and nothing else (😉).

I never understand why so many (pre) osteos wont just accept that many people view their schools as backups. The same thing happens for most schools-osteo or allo. For one group of students or another, a given school will be a back up. Not a big deal. No need for the overdone knee jerk reaction. Answer the OPs question and move on. For hating these threads so much, you sure do fuel them.

 

[aecuenca2]

To the OP:

Perhaps the biggest question you should ask yourself is: How important is it to have the title "MD" after your name?

Everyone here has valid points about location, cost, rotation sites, etc. Each medical school has it's pros and cons, both MD and DO.

I'm a DO, who served as Chief Resident at an allopathic residency. In a DO Sports Med Fellowship. Chose MD residency because of location and quality of training. I precept a great deal of pre-meds, medical students, and residents. For pre-meds, I encourage them to apply to both MD and DO schools if their sole purpose is to become a physician, and sort out the details once they get interviews and acceptances.

Now, if they just want to become a DO, then the answer is obvious.

But again, if you truly cannot live your life being asked occasionally what "DO" means, then you will have wasted your time even considering applying to DO schools.

Someone mentioned to do some "soul searching". That's exactly what should be done.

Have no regrets if you apply/accept a DO school position.

 

[JaggerPlate]

I never understand why so many (pre) osteos wont just accept that many people view their schools as backups. The same thing happens for most schools-osteo or allo. For one group of students or another, a given school will be a back up. Not a big deal. No need for the overdone knee jerk reaction. Answer the OPs question and move on. For hating these threads so much, you sure do fuel them.

You bring up a good point here, but I think you are missing the key issue. People using certain DO schools as a back up is NOT the issue. Every applicant, MD or DO, probably has certain 'back up' schools. However, what is completely absurd is people using osteopathic medicine as a back up to allopathic medicine. If you are applying to 5 schools, 3 MD 2 DO, and one of those DOs happens to be your back up then yes ... that is fine. However, if you are applying to 50 schools, 45 MD and 5 DO, and you would take any MD school over a DO school (despite quality) and are using those 5 as equal back ups, that I have a problem with. It's using the profession as a whole as back up that creates an issue in my mind.

I'm assuming your an allo student? I think this would be a different conversation if people constantly talked about using allopathic medicine as a back up or MD as inferior physicians. I struggle to believe that wouldn't create a 'knee jerk' reaction after working so hard to achieve what you have.

Also, about fueling the threads ... Trust me, it's not my intent, but I see these incorrect stereotypes and stupid questions and simply cannot help correct with thick sarcasm, despite what the outcome may be.