shwantis1660
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NYU
Pros:
-I've talked to a bunch of students and they seem cool, chill, good senses of humor. They've rejected the preconceived notions I have about NYU being full of gunners
-Location: would be best for my partner and NYC would, of course, be a cool place to spend three/four years, although not convinced I'd want to stay for residency
-Clinical training: having Tisch, Bellevue, and the VA right next to one another would provide a really broad and strong clinical training
-Three year curriculum would allow me to do a research year/get a dual degree after clerkships, which I think would boost my residency applications and would prevent me from having to stick around for a fifth year
-Students generally live together in a subsidized residence hall and the student body is therefore pretty close
-Great online system that allows students to sign up for shadowing opportunities extremely easily
-Cost: 0 COA
Cons:
-match list: strong, but a bit weaker than Duke/Penn. Perhaps will continue to get stronger as NYU routinely attracts top students?
-prestige: old academic types think Penn is the way to go, non-medical people think Duke is awesome. I only care about this to the extent that it will impact my career prospects.
-NYU's three year curriculum is new, so I will be a guinea pig to some extent. That being said, the class before me is doing 1-year preclinical and says its fine, and clerkships are clerkships...
-The inability to do electives/sub-Is/away rotations before residency applications could make it harder to network and find strong letter writers. This could also make it a bit harder to narrow specialty interests since I'm currently undecided, although obviously it would be best to know what I want to go into after clerkships.
-Graded clerkships and preclinical grades apparently play some minor role in AOA selection, although students say nobody is really gunning in preclinical.
-anatomy is not as robust, you don't do full dissections
Duke
Pros:
-Everything is pass fail, which seems really nice
-Match list is great, maybe a tiny bit weaker than Penn but a bit stronger than NYU
-Curriculum structure is 1 year preclinical; 1 year clerkships; 1 year research; 1 year sub-Is, away rotations, electives etc. This makes the curricular structure effectively the same as NYU + a research year (which I would plan to take there) and therefore comes with the same pros AND cons
-Location: I like the breweries + outdoors vibe
-Student body: seem very chill and tight knit
-Duke is a research powerhouse, I'm interested in academic medicine
-the basketball culture seems fun
-research year would boost residency applications
Cons:
-Cost: 140k COA
-clinical training: May not get exposure to as broad of a patient population or clinical sites as at NYU
-location: As good as Philly for my partner, but worse than NYC
Penn
Pros:
-match list is really strong and has been for a long time
-the research opportunities are really strong
-student body seems cool, although perhaps less tight knit than Duke and NYU
-Location: Philly is kind of cool, I could see myself living there and enjoying it
-Curriculum structure (1.5 years preclinical, 1 year clinical, 1.5 years misc.) would allow me to get advanced clinical experiences prior to residency apps, which would be good for career exploration and forming valuable connections with attending
-Grading is basically the same as NYU (ungraded preclinical, graded clinical), so comes with the associated pros and cons. In terms of grading system, I'd say Duke > NYU = Penn
-great hospitals that are all close to one another
Cons:
-Cost: 280k COA (could come down, negotiating)
-Not affiliated with any public/safety net hospitals, unlike NYU
-location: again, not as great for partner as NYC
-Lots of people spend five years because there isn't a ton of dedicated research time, unlike Duke (research year) and NYU (optional fourth year)
Pros:
-I've talked to a bunch of students and they seem cool, chill, good senses of humor. They've rejected the preconceived notions I have about NYU being full of gunners
-Location: would be best for my partner and NYC would, of course, be a cool place to spend three/four years, although not convinced I'd want to stay for residency
-Clinical training: having Tisch, Bellevue, and the VA right next to one another would provide a really broad and strong clinical training
-Three year curriculum would allow me to do a research year/get a dual degree after clerkships, which I think would boost my residency applications and would prevent me from having to stick around for a fifth year
-Students generally live together in a subsidized residence hall and the student body is therefore pretty close
-Great online system that allows students to sign up for shadowing opportunities extremely easily
-Cost: 0 COA
Cons:
-match list: strong, but a bit weaker than Duke/Penn. Perhaps will continue to get stronger as NYU routinely attracts top students?
-prestige: old academic types think Penn is the way to go, non-medical people think Duke is awesome. I only care about this to the extent that it will impact my career prospects.
-NYU's three year curriculum is new, so I will be a guinea pig to some extent. That being said, the class before me is doing 1-year preclinical and says its fine, and clerkships are clerkships...
-The inability to do electives/sub-Is/away rotations before residency applications could make it harder to network and find strong letter writers. This could also make it a bit harder to narrow specialty interests since I'm currently undecided, although obviously it would be best to know what I want to go into after clerkships.
-Graded clerkships and preclinical grades apparently play some minor role in AOA selection, although students say nobody is really gunning in preclinical.
-anatomy is not as robust, you don't do full dissections
Duke
Pros:
-Everything is pass fail, which seems really nice
-Match list is great, maybe a tiny bit weaker than Penn but a bit stronger than NYU
-Curriculum structure is 1 year preclinical; 1 year clerkships; 1 year research; 1 year sub-Is, away rotations, electives etc. This makes the curricular structure effectively the same as NYU + a research year (which I would plan to take there) and therefore comes with the same pros AND cons
-Location: I like the breweries + outdoors vibe
-Student body: seem very chill and tight knit
-Duke is a research powerhouse, I'm interested in academic medicine
-the basketball culture seems fun
-research year would boost residency applications
Cons:
-Cost: 140k COA
-clinical training: May not get exposure to as broad of a patient population or clinical sites as at NYU
-location: As good as Philly for my partner, but worse than NYC
Penn
Pros:
-match list is really strong and has been for a long time
-the research opportunities are really strong
-student body seems cool, although perhaps less tight knit than Duke and NYU
-Location: Philly is kind of cool, I could see myself living there and enjoying it
-Curriculum structure (1.5 years preclinical, 1 year clinical, 1.5 years misc.) would allow me to get advanced clinical experiences prior to residency apps, which would be good for career exploration and forming valuable connections with attending
-Grading is basically the same as NYU (ungraded preclinical, graded clinical), so comes with the associated pros and cons. In terms of grading system, I'd say Duke > NYU = Penn
-great hospitals that are all close to one another
Cons:
-Cost: 280k COA (could come down, negotiating)
-Not affiliated with any public/safety net hospitals, unlike NYU
-location: again, not as great for partner as NYC
-Lots of people spend five years because there isn't a ton of dedicated research time, unlike Duke (research year) and NYU (optional fourth year)
