Dumb deadline question

[jeepney]

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When a school says their deadline for online submission is Nov. 15, do they mean by the 15th or on the 15th?

Yes, I'm really lagging here...

 

[GoodDoctor]

It often means Nov 15 11:59 PM EST.

So, if you're on the west coast, you have until 8:59 PM on Nov 15 to get it in.

 

[Law2Doc]

When a school says their deadline for online submission is Nov. 15, do they mean by the 15th or on the 15th?

Yes, I'm really lagging here...

If it arrives in their office on the 15th that is likely timely. But bear in mind that in a rolling admissions process, you don't really generally want to wait until the last possible dates. (Not much you can do about Nov 15, though).

 

[Law2Doc]

It often means Nov 15 11:59 PM EST.

So, if you're on the west coast, you have until 8:59 PM on Nov 15 to get it in.

No way. It means by the end of the business day in most cases. Not midnight.

 

[szhao]

No way. It means by the end of the business day in most cases. Not midnight.

not if it is online app

 

[Law2Doc]

not if it is online app

Even so, if there's nobody to get it at the other end until the next morning, they may still count it as late. People with jobs consider something due on a certain date usually to be due by the end of business closing.

 

[szhao]

Even so, if there's nobody to get it at the other end until the next morning, they may still count it as late. People with jobs consider something due on a certain date usually to be due by the end of business closing.

a lot of online applications state: 11:59pm Nov. 15th, so if comp delay ur late, take ur own risk, but technically it explicitly states 11:59 rather than end of business day.

 

[Law2Doc]

a lot of online applications state: 11:59pm Nov. 15th, so if comp delay ur late, take ur own risk, but technically it explicitly states 11:59 rather than end of business day.

If it state that time, then sure, that time is the deadline. If it doesn't state it, (and some don't), you really need to assume that the close of business day is what is meant. Based on the OP's original question it is clear they didn't state a time or he wouldn't have had the question he did.

 

[szhao]

If it state that time, then sure, that time is the deadline. If it doesn't state it, (and some don't), you really need to assume that the close of business day is what is meant. Based on the OP's original question it is clear they didn't state a time or he wouldn't have had the question he did.

agreed

 

[GoodDoctor]

No way. It means by the end of the business day in most cases. Not midnight.

I've never seen End of Business Day stated on any site's online app. I have seen 11:59 PM EST listed on many sites. You may be thinking of snail-mail requirements, rather than online.

If it state that time, then sure, that time is the deadline. If it doesn't state it, (and some don't), you really need to assume that the close of business day is what is meant. Based on the OP's original question it is clear they didn't state a time or he wouldn't have had the question he did.

If they don't state a specific time, I'm not sure why end of business would be assumed, rather than end of the stated date. AMCAS does not state the time on the app, but buried in the faq is an 11:59 PM EST deadline. Since many schools list thier AMCAS deadline and their secondary deadline with no qualifiers, it would make sense that both mean 11:59 PM EST.

Since it's online, there will be a timestamp for them to see the next morning, if they even get to your secondary the next day (or next week for that matter). I don't think they have someone checking for online submissions until 5pm, and then nothing else counts. If you got it in by 4:59 PM (before end of business), nobody would see it until the next day anyway. That is no different than turning it in at 11:59 PM.

Now, snail mail is a different story. If you're sending LOR's through regular mail, they should arrive Nov. 15 if that is the deadline (except for schools that state "postmarked" by Nov. 15). If you're using virtual evals, then 11:59 PM EST is the latest to send to the school. My premed office assured me of this when they made an error with a letter and it took me weeks to get a new letter from my prof.

OP: In the end, don't trust quibbling SDNers. 😀 It would be best to contact the specific school if you are unsure (which I did when I didn't take my premed office's word for it on LORs). Better yet, submit your secondary online tonight. 🙂 Or give Law2Doc the benefit of the doubt, since his answer will at least make you 7 hours early.

 

[szhao]

OP: In the end, don't trust quibbling SDNers. 😀 It would be best to contact the specific school if you are unsure (which I did when I didn't take my premed office's word for it on LORs). Better yet, submit your secondary online tonight. 🙂

i can second to this

 

[Law2Doc]

If they don't state a specific time, I'm not sure why end of business would be assumed, rather than end of the stated date.

The working world works under this kind of time expectations. Most of the world has not really adjusted to email and so snail mail established understandings, which have been around for decades, still govern, unless explicitly indicated otherwise.
But sure, checking with the school can never hurt.