E1/E2 reactions

[GBFKicks]

I'm just browsing through EK and there is almost no Elimination reaction study material. Is that not very important for the MCAT, too easy, or not on the MCAT at all?

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[rockstar2525]

On the April MCAT there was very little Organic at all. I was annoyed because everything on the MCAT was REALLY BASIC and not nearly as difficult as the class. Know the BASICS of organic; the general mechanisms of Sn1, Sn2, E1, E2, sugars/carbs, oxygen containing compounds, spectroscopy, etc but don't worry about it too much. If you did decently in the class you will ace the MCAT.

 

[silkworm]

There shouldn't be any E1 and E2 questions since alkenes and aromatics are excised from the revised tests, right?

 

[RayhanS1282]

Yeah, alkenes (I'm sad to say) is no longer part of the MCAT. Neither are aromatics. Forget all the ortho-, para-, and markovnikov stuff you learned.

 

[joelmamchur]

No aromatics? *ugh* ...too bad I was best at alkenes and aromatics.... and o/m/p..... oh well.. heres to hoping that there is barely any ochem!

Yeah, alkenes (I'm sad to say) is no longer part of the MCAT. Neither are aromatics. Forget all the ortho-, para-, and markovnikov stuff you learned.

 

[GBFKicks]

My first reaction would be to be glad that the alkenes are not in the test, but I just can't believe it.

The knowledge of alkenes has got to help somehow... and their reactions are probably some of the easiest.

I also hope that there is a great deal more genetics than orgo... I love genetics. I'm going to thank all of the various Gods if I see more genetics.

 

[Psycho Doctor]

WHAT??? NO organic chem???? I postponed taking the MCAT from April until August b/c I didn't have an organic chem class yet. You mean I could have taken it then??? I'm now enrolled in a summer course on it and am struggling to study for that at the same time as study for the MCAT!!?? And I thought that was going to help me and i know organic chem...i am so screwed and to think i could have been done, be working on my apps and be having a fun summer. 🙁

 

[RayhanS1282]

I think you still gotta know some elimination stuff or at least be able to spot it. For example, elctrophilic addition is one way to make alcohol and E1 dehydration is one of the ways to make alkenes....just a thought.

 

[GBFKicks]

WHAT??? NO organic chem???? I postponed taking the MCAT from April until August b/c I didn't have an organic chem class yet. You mean I could have taken it then??? I'm now enrolled in a summer course on it and am struggling to study for that at the same time as study for the MCAT!!?? And I thought that was going to help me and i know organic chem...i am so screwed and to think i could have been done, be working on my apps and be having a fun summer. 🙁

No you still have to know orgo... it's just that there has been a shift in the orgo/genetic ratios in some of the versions of last year. I think the more you know, the better the situation you're in for the test.

 

[Psycho Doctor]

yea ok, just don't tell me i wasted my whole summer when had apps i could be doing...

 

[05med05]

When you say no alkenes, do you mean no reactions 'of' alkenes or no alkene synthesis?

Also, Just curious where you are getting this info from. Is it based on April's MCAT, or is it part of the list if items to know, which is listed on the AAMC website?

 

[GBFKicks]

When you say no alkenes, do you mean no reactions 'of' alkenes or no alkene synthesis?

Also, Just curious where you are getting this info from. Is it based on April's MCAT, or is it part of the list if items to know, which is listed on the AAMC website?

It's based on the list by AAMC. However, like I said, I can't believe there not being any alkenes at all on the test, so I studied the stuff. I think technically, you wouldn't have to know about reactions involving alkenes---I think that's what AAMC means.

 

[RayhanS1282]

It's based on the list by AAMC. However, like I said, I can't believe there not being any alkenes at all on the test, so I studied the stuff. I think technically, you wouldn't have to know about reactions involving alkenes---I think that's what AAMC means.

I agree with that. I don't think they are going to have stand-alone questions but it might show up based on a passage or something

 

[Jon Davis]

I agree. I read passages in the revised exams that included alkenes in by-reactions. For example, adding BH3 to an alkene to get an alcohol and so on. There are still questions, but I dont think there are direct passages on them.
Bottom line: Skim that stuff enough to fake your way through any questions but dont kill yourself over it.