Easy to find part time job after residency?

[Lucca]

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Lmao. What part of wanting to work 3 days and 20-30 hours/week did you not understand? Investment bankers work even more obscene hours than surgeons, never mind your average doctor. 100 hours/week is pretty ordinary for I-bankers. No thanks. I'll stick with medicine. No other field I know of where I can work so little and still come close to 6 figures. I pity I-bankers and surgeons and their sorry lives. Honestly, what else do these people get time to do besides work and sleep 4 hours a day? Must suck.

Not if you love your job.

 

[Patros]

Uh, because for the hundredth time I actually like medicine and it interests me greatly. That's why I don't want to pick another profession. And please dispense with the melodrama. "Putting other people in danger"? Hahahahaha. People like me and you who become doctors are treating/preventing illness and disease and saving lives. Whether you work 70 hours or 20, you are doing a great service to the world.

Let me guess, you aren't crying about part time work when a mother wants to "raise her kids and watch them grow." But part time work for other reasons isn't ok? Good stuff.

You should seriously consider becoming a physician assistant. It is not uncommon for PA's to work per diem, which often means ~35hrs/week. They earn $60-90k, and often work two gigs to make $100k+. Considering that there is significantly less debt, less time spent in training, and much less responsibility, I think it might align well with your interests. The only downside is you don't get the title "Doctor," won't be an academic, and won't be your own boss. But do you really care about any of that? It sounds like you want a comfortable lifestyle while working in medicine, which is exactly what becoming a PA will do for you.

 

[BamaNicole]

Lmao. What part of wanting to work 3 days and 20-30 hours/week did you not understand? Investment bankers work even more obscene hours than surgeons, never mind your average doctor. 100 hours/week is pretty ordinary for I-bankers. No thanks. I'll stick with medicine. No other field I know of where I can work so little and still come close to 6 figures. I pity I-bankers and surgeons and their sorry lives. Honestly, what else do these people get time to do besides work and sleep 4 hours a day? Must suck.

Oh I understand it. I just highly doubt you'd make it through medical school let alone residency with this "I just want four or five days so I can bum around and play video games" attitude. You'd do better and probably be happier in another line of work. Its not enough to just have a pedestarian interest in medicine. You will burn out.

 

[geretts]

Again, OP, it's fairly easy to work 4 days a week as a primary care doc. My pediatrician told me this was easy to negotiate. I intend to work "only" around 35-40 hrs/week also. SDN loves being melodramatic and holier-than-thou about this sort of thing.

 

[rainbow girl]

OP, if your family is so filthy rich and can pay for whatever you need, why don't you just use their money to open up a practice and work as much as you like? Problem solves. I have no comment on the profitability of your future pratice. Or you can hire PA or NP and chill all you want.

 

[circulus vitios]

Yeah! We're going to be in demand! And instead of going out to help people like we signed up to do lets look out for our own self-interests while others are writhing in misery! WOO HOOO-- YEAH! doctors, respect us!

What's that? You can't get in to see a PCP anywhere and possibly could if I had longer hours?! I'm sorry, all I heard was "job stability! lolz #shouldnthavegottensicksucker! Here I come Kaiser!!! WOOP WOOOP"


...this is the kind of nonsense mentality that is truly ruining not only the perception of doctors in our society but also the inherent/intrinsic quality of doctors now days. (Yes, I want to go into surgery) This whole thread just made me nauseous to the very core. Look, sweetheart, if you're filthy rich and don't have to work, don't become a doctor. Go do something else. No one cares what you do these days anyways. Please, give someone else that spot, there are many that would gladly take it.



ADDY OUT

There are 168 hours a week. You only need 8 hours to sleep, prepare for the day, and commute. You better be pulling 16 hour days, 7 days a week for the rest of your life. Anything else is doing society a disservice.

 

[getdown]

Honestly, there's nothing wrong with wanting to work part time. Like I mentioned previously, it is doable. As much as I hate to say it, medicine should be a job not your entire life. No one wants to stay in the hospital 12-16 hours a day. People have lives and they should enjoy it. There's no reason to work 70-80 + hours a week when a majority of the time you're filling paperwork and arguing with insurance companies to get pre-approvals on top of the fact that the hospital and those same insurance companies are raking in the money not you. The caveat here, however, is you take ownership of your patients while you are in the hospital and working. From a resident perspective I want someone who's efficient and able to finish their job before handing off incomplete BS and making me tie up loose ends. If OP is this type of person I have no problem with it, but if he/she can't do that and leave things for someone else to do while he hurries home ... then that's just poor form and I would never want to work with a person like that.

 

[Xenoblade]

Streampaw pls go

I know she is a troll, but I know people like this this in real life. They buy me Louis vuitton for Christmas that are worth more than some peoples car.

Some families stipulate that you have to have a job before you can get money from the trust so you don't end up as a drug addict or parents cut you off. I have seen so many people go to school when the trust is revocable but drop out to do coke when the trustees get their money andit becomes irrevocable. It all.depends on how the trust was created.

I have seen this happen (ESP for business school). Too bad this is just a troll though and isn't the real thing.

 

[moisne]

You go into something like family practice or psych, depending on where you are you might be hard-pressed to clear even 80,000 working that little. If your expectation is to work that little, you might want to consider a different career, since you might not be able to pull it off. Ask yourself if you still want to be a doctor even if you have to work full-time the majority of your career. If not, there is a lot of training and a lot of debt in front of you, and when you get through it, you might not have a 2-day-per week 100,000/year job waiting for you. You very well might have to work a lot more than that.

OP needs my old job. I made 109k/year 2 days/week.

It's on a oil rig as a chem E 😀

It's not so bad if you think about it. 4 years for chemE vs 4 years for MD. Just depends if you care what you do - which it doesn't sound like OP even cares what she does at all...

 

[rifle4802]

You should seriously consider becoming a physician assistant. It is not uncommon for PA's to work per diem, which often means ~35hrs/week. They earn $60-90k, and often work two gigs to make $100k+. Considering that there is significantly less debt, less time spent in training, and much less responsibility, I think it might align well with your interests. The only downside is you don't get the title "Doctor," won't be an academic, and won't be your own boss. But do you really care about any of that? It sounds like you want a comfortable lifestyle while working in medicine, which is exactly what becoming a PA will do for you.

Nah, PA's don't run the show while doctors do. Plus, they work full time and earn 60-90k. I can work half that much as a doctor and make 80-110k. I want a cushy lifestyle of course, but as a doctor only.

Something like this (24 hours/week):

Monday - work 6 am to 6 pm
Tuesday - work 6 am to 6 pm
Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday - video games, golf, watch football, TV, etc.

Or this (30 hours/week):

Monday - work 7 am to 5 pm
Tuesday - work 7 am to 5 pm
Wednesday - work 7 am to 5 pm
Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday - video games, TV, etc.

I agree with those saying it shouldn't be hard to negotiate and don't buy what the rest are saying. Doctors aren't in such great supply that you won't be able to find plenty of gigs that cater to your lifestyle demands.

 

[Chipster.]

Nah, PA's don't run the show while doctors do. Plus, they work full time and earn 60-90k. I can work half that much as a doctor and make 80-110k. I want a cushy lifestyle of course, but as a doctor only.

Something like this (24 hours/week):

Monday - work 6 am to 6 pm
Tuesday - work 6 am to 6 pm
Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday - video games, golf, watch football, TV, etc.

Or this (30 hours/week):

Monday - work 7 am to 5 pm
Tuesday - work 7 am to 5 pm
Wednesday - work 7 am to 5 pm
Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday - video games, TV, etc.

I agree with those saying it shouldn't be hard to negotiate and don't buy what the rest are saying. Doctors aren't in such great supply that you won't be able to find plenty of gigs that cater to your lifestyle demands.

God, you suck.

 

[Doctor Strange]

Jesus, just go into concierge medicine.

/thread

 

[breakmon]

Jesus, just go into concierge medicine.

/thread

I had no idea what concierge medicine was, so I just looked it up.

On wikipedia it says, "All [concierge doctors] generally claim to be accessible via telephone or email at any time of day or night or offer some other service above and beyond the customary care."

That makes it sound as if being a concierge doctor is even more work than being a normal one. I don't think that's what the OP is looking for.

Oh, and by the way, you didn't end the thread. I continued it by posting. Ha ha... ha ha ha.... ha ha ha ha....

 

[kreme]

I'll answer the question: Be ridiculously good at research during your residency and get your ass into a nonclinical career. You can easily do consulting (if you're good at what you do) for whatever hours you want to work, when you want to work, and who you want to work with.

If you've ever seen Royal Pains, that's pretty much concierge medicine

 

[Chipster.]

I had no idea what concierge medicine was, so I just looked it up.

On wikipedia it says, "All [concierge doctors] generally claim to be accessible via telephone or email at any time of day or night or offer some other service above and beyond the customary care."

That makes it sound as if being a concierge doctor is even more work than being a normal one. I don't think that's what the OP is looking for.

Oh, and by the way, you didn't end the thread. I continued it by posting. Ha ha... ha ha ha.... ha ha ha ha....

For someone with a "42" on his MCAT you have to be one of the least informed people I have ever come across. No way are you over 18.

Go home, child.

 

[Doctor Strange]

For someone with a "42" on his MCAT you have to be one of the least informed people I have ever come across. No way are you over 18.

Go home, child.

👍

 

[OneTwoThreeFour]

Nah, PA's don't run the show while doctors do. Plus, they work full time and earn 60-90k. I can work half that much as a doctor and make 80-110k. I want a cushy lifestyle of course, but as a doctor only.

Something like this (24 hours/week):

Monday - work 6 am to 6 pm
Tuesday - work 6 am to 6 pm
Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday - video games, golf, watch football, TV, etc.

Or this (30 hours/week):

Monday - work 7 am to 5 pm
Tuesday - work 7 am to 5 pm
Wednesday - work 7 am to 5 pm
Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday - video games, TV, etc.

I agree with those saying it shouldn't be hard to negotiate and don't buy what the rest are saying. Doctors aren't in such great supply that you won't be able to find plenty of gigs that cater to your lifestyle demands.

I just want to point out that right here you said:
I agree with the people who tell me I can do what I want, and disagree with the people telling me I can't.

Why come on this site and ask for advice if you're going to not "buy" what people (many of whom are further along in the process than you) tell you?

 

[breakmon]

For someone with a "42" on his MCAT you have to be one of the least informed people I have ever come across. No way are you over 18.

Go home, child.

The MCAT doesn't test on concierge medicine, bro. Honestly, I think it's kind of ironic that you are calling me one of the least informed people you've ever come across, when you don't even know that the MCAT doesn't test on concierge medicine. I didn't need to know what concierge medicine was for me to get a 42 on the MCAT. The MCAT doesn't test on concierge medicine.

By the way, I feel like your post doesn't really contribute to the discussion. Do you care to enlighten me on the topic of concierge medicine? Or will you persist in your obnoxious manner, which I will liken to a provincial gadfly (which - I'm telling you now since I doubt you'll know this - is not an animal).

 

[Chipster.]

The MCAT doesn't test on concierge medicine, bro. Honestly, I think it's kind of ironic that you are calling me one of the least informed people you've ever come across, when you don't even know that the MCAT doesn't test on concierge medicine. I didn't need to know what concierge medicine was for me to get a 42 on the MCAT. The MCAT doesn't test on concierge medicine.

By the way, I feel like your post doesn't really contribute to the discussion. Do you care to enlighten me on the topic of concierge medicine? Or will you persist in your obnoxious manner, which I will liken to a provincial gadfly (which - I'm telling you now since I doubt you'll know this - is not an animal).

Yep. Definitely a teenager.

 

[TheWeeIceMan]

They don't call it the Medical Concierge Aptitude Test for nothing.

 

[rifle4802]

I'll answer the question: Be ridiculously good at research during your residency and get your ass into a nonclinical career. You can easily do consulting (if you're good at what you do) for whatever hours you want to work, when you want to work, and who you want to work with.

If you've ever seen Royal Pains, that's pretty much concierge medicine

I've definitely considered it, but from what I've read the pay is much worse for non-clinical careers.

 

[knv2u]

OP, please be sure to ask your interviewers about this when you apply to medical school. They might have some insight for you.

 

[breakmon]

Yep. Definitely a teenager.

Although I am not an adolescent, I think it is exceedingly narrow-minded and really quite petty of you to dismiss all teenagers as imbeciles who have nothing useful to say. The fact that you are stooping so low as to start calling me names just proves that you are incapable of a reasonable discussion. There's a quote that I heard once which I will paraphrase: "When your opponent starts calling you names, you've already won the argument." The more immature you act, the more assurance I have that I am in the right.

Regardless, the question still stands: what am I misunderstanding about concierge medicine? I would genuinely like to know. Of course, if you are incapable of legitimate conversation, then I understand and I won't hold it against you. And, quite honestly, I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Doctor Strange]

Although I am not an adolescent, I think it is exceedingly narrow-minded and really quite petty of you to dismiss all teenagers as imbeciles who have nothing useful to say. The fact that you are stooping so low as to start calling me names just proves that you are incapable of a reasonable discussion. There's a quote that I heard once which I will paraphrase: "When your opponent starts calling you names, you've already won the argument." The more immature you act, the more assurance I have that I am in the right.

Regardless, the question still stands: what am I misunderstanding about concierge medicine? I would genuinely like to know. Of course, if you are incapable of legitimate conversation, then I understand and I won't hold it against you. And, quite honestly, I wouldn't be surprised.

Concierge doctors typically carry a much smaller patient load than do normal primary care physicians. Just because they are "on call" for their patients doesn't mean that they work more per say. How often does a normal person see a doctor in a year? Not a lot. What people are paying for is the more intimate patient/doctor relationship and the perception of being cared for at a higher level. Whether or not they see the doc in a given month or year is irrelevant, because the physician still charges a fee for the concierge service.

 

[TheWeeIceMan]

How are you going to stay rich on 80k-120k a year? Are your parents really going to subsidize you when you are middle aged, or are you just counting on that sweet, sweet inheritance? Hopefully, you're an only child.

 

[KnuxNole]

Nah, PA's don't run the show while doctors do. Plus, they work full time and earn 60-90k. I can work half that much as a doctor and make 80-110k. I want a cushy lifestyle of course, but as a doctor only.

Something like this (24 hours/week):

Monday - work 6 am to 6 pm
Tuesday - work 6 am to 6 pm
Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday - video games, golf, watch football, TV, etc.

Or this (30 hours/week):

Monday - work 7 am to 5 pm
Tuesday - work 7 am to 5 pm
Wednesday - work 7 am to 5 pm
Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday - video games, TV, etc.

I agree with those saying it shouldn't be hard to negotiate and don't buy what the rest are saying. Doctors aren't in such great supply that you won't be able to find plenty of gigs that cater to your lifestyle demands.

Good luck finding a community that wants that.

Receptionist: "Aww I'm sorry ma'am. You have to wait 8 months to get it with Dr. Rifle. He only works 2 days a week, NO calls, doesn't go over his 6pm hours."

Patient: "Gurl please, I'll just go find a doctor that acts like one!"

 

[WolfofSDN]

I don't know how realistic this is. I know some Emergency physicians put in shift work and that can lead to "less" days of work a week but the days you do work will be marathons. I'm with everyone else, consider other careers if you are not comfortable working 60 - 100 hours a week for the majority of your professional career

please stop trying to scare the children. Very few physicians work 60-100 hours a week for the majority of their career. Those are closer to resident numbers.