Effect of posiible government shutdown on 401ks

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  1. mursepharmd

    mursepharmd 2+ Year Member

    Aug 20, 2013
    Do you guys think its wise to just switch to all cash for now until this mess in washington is over?
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  3. grumps

    grumps Banned Banned 5+ Year Member

    Dec 21, 2008
    Going into the end of a quarter especially the end of a FY and sitting in cash will be a very risky bet. I don't think it will be this year, but at some point the dollar will have to be devalued to delever the system. This could happen as a discontiguity overnite. The end of a FY makes a good starting point. For now I wouldn't make any drastic changes to a 401k allocation. If in equities stay in them. They will protect you from a dollar devaluation.

    The mess in DC will never be over until a debt default/miltary coup. The ceiling has to be raised or the system deflates. Remember, what are bank reserves comprised of? Treasuries. That's why we got Medicare part D, the wars, student loan bubble, subprime mortgages, etc. The debt has to grow. This is the 2% inflation Ben refers to. It's not consumer price inflation, it is growth in credit. The banking system is like a shark, it must keep swimming ( growing credit) or die. Inflate or die.
  4. BMBiology

    BMBiology temporarily banned~! 10+ Year Member

    Feb 26, 2003
    This concern has already been priced in. This explains the drop this whole week.

    It is better to have money on the side so you can invest if the market drops further.
  5. confettiflyer

    confettiflyer Did you just say something? 10+ Year Member

    same crap, different year...grandstand grandstand grandstand back to normal, market has known this for a while...like BMB said, it's not a surprise.

    My mantra is, by the time you think of it...the market is about 50,000 steps ahead of you and the price reflected reflects your thoughts. You're not special.
  6. pharmerjohn

    pharmerjohn Working on a Dream 2+ Year Member

    May 29, 2012
    Like the others said, it's mostly smoke but no real fire. Not sure if it's worth the effort of switching to cash, which I don't think is as safe as many people seem to think. I put a nice chunk in commodities and it's given me very good returns for the past several years. Just my humble opinion.
  7. mursepharmd

    mursepharmd 2+ Year Member

    Aug 20, 2013
    The fire is real after all
  8. confettiflyer

    confettiflyer Did you just say something? 10+ Year Member

    meh... gov't shut down, been there done that. The real fire would be if we start defaulting on stuff...that's where the real fireworks are at.
  9. Momus

    Momus 7+ Year Member

    Apr 2, 2008
    I don't fully believe in efficient market hypothesis (that stuff is already priced in all the time) because sometimes human herd mentality can make market overreacts to the upside (PE close to 40 in 2000 tech bubble) or downside (PE <10 - great recession). Another example: Housing bubble in 2006 and housing is bad investment forever 2009-2011. That's when you really have to make a move and don't just sit still. You can make loads of money when you see the market overreacts. Right now, it's not the time to do anything...
  10. lisinopril

    lisinopril Account on Hold Account on Hold 2+ Year Member

    Feb 16, 2012
    I am a day trader, but I also buy long stocks, commodities. I think the best thing to do now is DO NOTHING unless your investment have gained 200% or more , then sell it and take profits.

    From technical analysis, I strongly believed market is due for a 20% correction. This could happen this month, or by end of 2013. I sold most of my gains and put a lot of cash aside waiting for a correction to jump in. Now, I'm buying gold/silver miners, as well as gold/silver ETF, along with physical gold/silver.

    Watch, next year, China could announce yuan to be a global reserve currency with gold backing....This is when the debt bubble bursts and all hell loose....lol....GOLD and SILVER , baby.
  11. xml2

    xml2 Member 10+ Year Member

    Nov 19, 2004

    The rally for Gold and Silver is over. Watch it plummet, yet we still hear the gold bugs cheerleading. The world isn't falling by next year...:smuggrin:

  12. iworkjobs


    Oct 2, 2013
    yes,This concern has already been priced in. This explains the drop this whole week.[​IMG]

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