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i see many of you have/are doing this to add to your apps. i personally think it would be a wonderful way to get patient contact, etc and do something useful with my spare time.
just wondering what the process was, how hard it was and who i would contact to see about doing this??
any insight appreciated 🙂
 
i see many of you have/are doing this to add to your apps. i personally think it would be a wonderful way to get patient contact, etc and do something useful with my spare time.
just wondering what the process was, how hard it was and who i would contact to see about doing this??
any insight appreciated 🙂

You might try prehospital forums. This has been discuss ad nauseum.

Also, only advice I have here is don't let it interfere with your schoolwork. It is better to get an "A" and never have been an EMT then to get a "B" and have a bunch of great EMT experience.

I think shadowing a physician, volunteering in hospital, or research for a professor look better.

EMT's are basically "blue collar workers" of the medical field. Their role is not well understood by interviewers.
 
EMT's are basically "blue collar workers" of the medical field. Their role is not well understood by interviewers.
This would shock me, as a very large percentage of premeds are also EMTs.

Mom23, if you're looking for a hobby, an EMT is a great way to spend some time. Ambulance work can be drudgery a lot of the time, but it depends a lot on where you're located.

Aside from research, I think volunteering on a healthy application should highlight two things: you have clinical experience and you know what a doctor does for a living. An EMT job in a hospital ER is about the best clinical experience you can get. If you're spending your time shuttling folks from nursing home to hospitals, this would probably be less personally fulfilling.

As for knowing what a doctor does for a living, you can shadow a physician, but I would recommend volunteering in a way that has you work closely with doctors. You make more of a contribution to patient care when you play an active role than when you watch.
 
I would definitely say EMTs get great clinical experience (no bias here... ). I get lucky in that my city is has an all-volunteer system (Virginia Beach VA). We don't do any interhospital transports either so it's all emergency cases. It's a great way to start patient contact. You meet so many types of people (not all good), learn about your own strengths/weaknesses (like having the tones go off at 3am and dragging your butt out of bed), and get to see the pre-hospital side of medicine.
Downside is that you really don't learn about what doctors do unless you work in an ER fulltime rather than a rescue squad. I work in an hospital as an Endoscopy Tech so that's where I get my "doctor" time in. Still, I think my experience has been totally valuable and I love what I do. I also love the fact that I only work with volunteers so everyone is there because they want to be, to give of their time type of deal.
I would disagree that interviewers don't understand. At buffalo, I actually had an ER physician interview me so that was my benefit for sure. If you have time and other things won't suffer, I say go for it. As a volunteer, it's really some of the best medical patient contact you will get.
 
Hi,

I'm going through EMT-B training now. It's not that difficult to locate a good program. Try your local community college; they usually have training classes that are held in conjuction with the public safety academies in your area. The cost is pretty minimal as well, like about a grand. The program I am attending is divided into three units, each a month long; the last one is a live internship. If you can't find a community college program, call your local public safety training academy, or fire station.

To become certified after the program, you will need to pass a state multiple choice exam and a practical. You then have about a year to "affiliate" with a fire department, state EMS response unit, or private ambulance company; this is a separate process, but is definitely required to attain certification. A lot of people affiliate before they take classes. Your hours and other aspects of training really depend which agency you affliate with.

So far the class seems manageable; your basic rules and regulations, ethics, vitals, and patient history. You need to be able to lift people, so that's something you might want to consider. In most states, EMT-B's do basic life support and first aid: CPR, SAMPLE history, vitals, field assessment, splinting, assist with simple meds (about 5, I think), and packaging and delivering to nearest hospital. Mostly, I've heard, especially if you are working for a private ambulance company, it's about delivering the patient.

That's all I know so far. I just began learning how to check blood pressure and other vitals; not as easy as it looks! I feel so awkward and unskilled; thus, I have major empathy for anybody just starting out in patient care right about now. 😳
 
i see many of you have/are doing this to add to your apps.


Don't do it just to pad your application.
Do some research in your area and find out what EMT's actually do. In some areas EMT-B's run 911 service. Some areas only fire departments run the 911 service and most EMT-B's are transport with private ambulance companies.

In order to get some 911 experience, i had to start volunteering with a fire department. They were nice enough to let me just run EMS calls and provide support at fires instead of being a fire fighter.

It's a good way to get used to some of the unpleasant parts of dealing with sick/injured people.
 
Don't do it just to pad your application.
Agreed. An EMT on your resume is not very impressive to adcoms. Adcoms realize that it's usually about 120 hours of classroom training and 16 hours of hands on clinical. This does not rock their boat.

If you actually use EMT training and put it to good use, your experiences will be appreciated. But the EMT on its own has very little value.
 
Hi there,

I'm new to the forum and looking forward to getting to know everyone!

Deciding on whether or not to go the EMT route can be tough, and should probably depend in large part upon the area you live in. Do some research and see how heavily the "market is saturated". As a parent and provider (as I am also), you also need to ask yourself the question "do I need to get paid while working to build my medical experience?"

If I may share my own situation/experience in hopes that it might help: I did my EMT training last Spring. It's not real hard, it can just be time consuming depending on the program. I got through the semester fine but it really wiped my family out. As I needed a paying part time job to supplement our income, and as I am already a volunteer with some great community programs, I really needed a paying job to get my medical experience hours if at all possible. I spent a good part of the summer applying for any and every job I could and the results were dismal. My area is so over-saturated with EMT's (and this is quite common as I understand it) that I could not even get myself a single interview. It is even highly competitive to get on volunteer corps here. Hospital volunteering is doable, but you don't need to be an EMT to volunteer in the ER - you won't be doing ER Tech stuff anyway, you'll mostly be cleaning things up. I got to the point where I started applying for CNA type jobs at area hospitals (there were TONS of jobs open) but I was told that I had to be a CNA, they didn't care that I was an EMT. I finally just got hired on by an ambulatory surgery center that decided to give me a chance, for which I am very grateful. But it has been a miserable road to get here. I'll definitely be making a more than a starting CNA at a nursing home, but a little less than a temp agency CNA (and I'm per diem at this center as is a temp agency CNA). However, my job will be a little more fun than CNA (though actually encompass some of the same duties).

On the other side of the coin, I know two guys (now both in medical school) who became CNA's a few years back, had zero problems getting a job, and got into medical school just fine. There are so many CNA opportunities out there (though the job may not be as fun) that you pretty much can't not land a job, and I personally don't think anyone at a medical school is going to be blown away by an EMT license vs. a CNA license anyway. Patient contact is what they care about. Like I said, these two guys I know had no problem getting in.

So the point of my long post 🙂 - you have to do what you want to do - but do your research! And ask yourself if you need a paying job. If you do then I'd personally recommend going the CNA route (the training I've heard is waaaay easier too - my wife did it several years ago). If you want to get volunteer hours in the medical field then you might consider not wasting your time with any training program that would hurt your school focus, or the EMT route would probably be fine too. But it really depends on the area in which you live. I think our problem in this area is that we've got 3 gung-ho EMT schools that advertise heavily and tell everyone how they can make $1,000,000 coming out of school 🙂

All the best to you! I'm sure whatever you choose to do, you'll do great.

Regards,
Dulcimer Dude
 
You might try prehospital forums. This has been discuss ad nauseum.

Also, only advice I have here is don't let it interfere with your schoolwork. It is better to get an "A" and never have been an EMT then to get a "B" and have a bunch of great EMT experience.

I think shadowing a physician, volunteering in hospital, or research for a professor look better.

EMT's are basically "blue collar workers" of the medical field. Their role is not well understood by interviewers.

i have two years of biology research during which i did two poster presentations. i also have two yrs of psych research.
i am starting shadowing a doc this coming week.

considering hospital volunteering also but the positions by me have very limited patient contact.
 
Also, if you are planning on only using the "EMT" class for a year I don't think its worth the time. In my opinion if you have more than 2 years until you "apply" I'd get it. Otherwise (and this is also area dependant because job markets can vary if you need "money") I think its better just to shadow and volunteer.

I was goign to do the EMT but the time and money isn't worth my effort. So I'm shadowing docs (hoping for at least 100 hrs +) and tutor as well as I do volunteer research and maintain a full course load. I think that's enough for me 🙂
 
Hmm, after reading some of the replies, it seems cost for an EMT-B class must vary quite a bit by area. One response threw out a figure of $1,000, for example. I know here in the Chicagoland area, Loyola offers an EMT-B course for $750. I took mine though at a community college about 10-15 minutes from Loyola, for a cost of $450 with all added fees beyond the straight tuition.

That said, the decision on whether or not to go for the licensure really depends a lot on your specific area and what you want to do with it. I took my class last spring, the first year of two needed to take all of my prereqs and other desired classes. My intention at the time was to then try to work 2 12 hour shifts a week as an EMT while continuing my studies this year, since I do need to bring in $200 a week or so beyond my wife's income to keep us in decent shape, and I thought it would be nice to do so in a way that would also provide some clinical experience beyond shadowing. I had not done my research though - there is really nowhere nearby where an EMT-B licensure would allow me to be involved in 911 calls or any truly emergency situations. Instead, I would really only be able to work for private ambulance companies handling transport - as my instructor put it, "glorified taxi driving that doesn't pay as well." After really, truly thinking things over, while that would pay the bills and provide some clinical experience, it still was not something that I would consider fulfilling - for myself at any rate; for others it is a good fit and a great way to get some experience. When multiple instructors at the community college asked me to consider tutoring there in the basic sciences and also for the EMT program, I decided that would be a better fit for me.

You mentioned a lack of patient contact in hospital volunteering near you - an EMT-B licensure may open up more doors as far as that goes. Once I decided that I would go with the tutoring position rather than working as an EMT, I started looking into ways that I could still use my licensure. One was certainly in tutoring students from this year's EMT classes, but while I enjoy that, it is of course rather lacking in patient contact/clinical experience. So I dug around a bit, and found a free clinic in the westside of Chicago that has invited me for a training session next month. I should end up helping with patient triaging once a week once I get started (mainly vitals and histories). I certainly didn't need the license to get the position, but I was told that there is typically a waiting list to volunteer there, and having that licensure allowed me to jump the list and get involved much sooner.

Another possibility would have been the ER at the hospital where I did my clinical observations last spring. One of my fellow tutors volunteers there, but finds it rather boring since he is usually just asked to run things from the ER to another department, or possibly replace linens and other basic supplies. If I had opted to volunteer there rather than the clinic, then I would be asked to take vitals, help position patients, place/remove leads, and other tasks that while still very basic would at least be quite a bit more interesting than fetching coffee. I know one guy who was in my EMT class last spring who asked about jobs while doing his clinicals during the class, and was hired on as an ER tech before even finishing the class. Along with the other basics he was trained to do ECGs - not to read them mind you, but it is generally the techs in that ER that obtain the actual ECG.

Overly long story short - do some real research into exactly what would be possible in your area, and decide if you like the sound of it. The class in and of itself? Interesting, but not wildly. It could definitely be worthwhile though if it will open up some doors for you with volunteering or maybe part-time work. Just be sure that the doors it opens are worthwhile for you, first.
 
This would shock me, as a very large percentage of premeds are also EMTs.

Most of the interviewers are not physicians. They are basic scientists that wouldn't know an ET tube from IV tubing. Even among physicians they don't often understand the differences between an EMT, paramedic, CNA.

Look, its a good thing to do, I was a career medic before going to school. I enjoyed it quite a bit. Yet, all my experience I don't think it helped 1 bit get me into school.

I was asked during an interview after I told them I worked as a paramedic/EMT for several years. "So, did you do any volunteering in the health care field?" I was like WTF! Basically, when it comes down to it, my experience is they rate time filing charts as a candystriper higher then being an allied health professional.

So basically, I'm 100% behind anyone wanting to become an EMT. The world needs good EMT's. But, it is no ticket to med school. Do it if you find it interesting, but not because it will increase the competitiveness of your application.

good grades (3.5+) + good MCAT (30+) = med school

All the other stuff is gravy.
 
I'm about to start at 2 week EMT course. It's basically class from 8am-8pm every day for two weeks. I'm not doing it to look good when it comes to apply for med school, I'm doing it so I can work in medical field while I'm getting my undergrad out of the way. I have to work either way during this time, so I might as well do something medically related.
 
I am actually trying to get some EMT training, but since you guys are stating it is not really a helper...I am backing off.
 
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