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Endocrine Surgery

Discussion in 'Medical Students - DO' started by bunnybear, Nov 17, 2005.

  1. bunnybear

    bunnybear Senior Member
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    Hi guys, so do you that Endocrine Surgery option is open to DO's as well. Also what have you guys heard about it, how competetive is it to get in to it??
     
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    You should do a little more research on DO's.

    Any residency, fellowship, or job open to MD's is also open to DO's.

    I've never heard of an endocrine surgery fellowship, so it sounds very rare.

    Very rare = very competitive.
     
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    Endocrine Surgery? No such thing.
     
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    Endocrine Surgery! You know the surgical treatment of endocrines.
     
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    So it's not possible to specialize in performing surgery on the thyroid, parathyroid, adrenal, pancreas, etc.?

    Why the heck not?
     
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    I would guess that it's some rare fellowship after general surg.... theres many random ones that aren't ACGME accredited and don't have a formal caq exam...but still exist nevertheless...
     
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    Yeah, I saw that. I was just pointing out that it can be done which was a surprise to me.
     
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    What about Atul Gawande?
    Check out his page on Harvard's faculty pages: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/faculty/AtulGawande.html
    "Other Affiliations

    Assistant Professor of Surgery, Harvard Medical School
    General and Endocrine Surgeon, Brigham and Women's Hospital"

    Then again, this guy is the MAN! So it may have been a program open only to him. Seriously though, it's very possible that he was unofficially trained in a non-certifiable sub-specialty for which there is no board exam. Still, if you're a DO with the necessary credentials, I'd imagine Mass General or Brigham and Women's would take you. I've heard they're open to DOs in their programs, is this correct?
     
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    wow.. we can all google. Yahooooooooo!!!
     
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    my guess is there are endocrinologist.. and Endocrinologist surgeons are simply general surgeons or IM subspecialized in endocronology.

    I am going to be a HemaCardiologist when I grow up. Dealing with stem cell therapy for the heart.
     
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    No, you can't do surgery as an endocrinologist.
     
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    read my post again.. I said IM or GS with speciality in Endocrinology.

    nothing about endocrinologist doing surgery
     
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    If you'd work on spelling and grammar, it would have been easier to understand what you were getting at.

    Thanks.
     
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    Ohhhh burnnnnnnnnn!!! you are so good.

    Me worke on anglich spelin an d gramma
     
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    :thumbup: That's excellent... and with seeing your avatar - I am hearing it in Stewie speak!!!
     
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    There are indeed endocrine surgery fellowships. They are few, and pretty variable as to the split between research and time spent operating. Off the top of my head the ones I have heard about include the Sydney,Australia, Cleveland Clinic, Rush, and Michigan. A quick search yielded more complete list here: http://www.endocrinesurgery.org/fellowships/fellowships.html
    and here: http://www.iaes-endocrine-surgeons.com/fellowships.html

    They are not ACGME accredited as fellowships (which is pretty normal for general surgery fellowships), but that doesn't mean they aren't any less valid. The big society for the US is the AAES (american association of endocrine surgeons). their website is: http://www.endocrinesurgery.org

    A quick scan through the AAES member list doesn't show any D.O.s http://www.endocrinesurgery.org/members/member_list.pdf but there is no specific prohibition against them in their member requirements. The member requirements do say that you need to be certified by the American Board of Surgery (which only ACGME residency grads can be) or its equivalent in Canada, Mexico, Central America, South America. In addition, members must be fellows of the American College of Surgeons or its international equivalent.
     
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    Thank you. Yea, there are Endocrine Surg's, I just wanted to find out about more. Because, I'm getting my masters in Neurobiolgy, and my thesis is effects of Estrogen different parts of brain. So,... let me know if you guys know more
     
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    MGH and Brig are not DO-friendly (based on lack of DOs in residencies throughout history). Maybe DOs do not apply though.
     
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    Oh, really? Damn, oh well, there are plenty of other hospitals around. :D

    Makes sense though because I couldn't find any DOs in training in any of the programs I looked through. They'll never know what they're missing... :p
     
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    I have seen a D.O. at MGH. Not sure what he was doind there... but defenietly did see him about 5 years ago. THe reason i remember this was because I was like "what the hell is a DO".
     

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