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Stagg737 said:
I didn't say a mid-day vig was stupid (though it probably is most of the time). I said THIS mid-day vig was poorly thought out and inefficient if it is from the wolves.
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I'm still not clear on why you think that's the case. A wolf can't hold onto that extra shot forever. And guess what, they can get away with shooting whoever the hell they want if enough people are like "oh but look, the timing was so villagey!"

This is all just a hypothetical scenario anyway since we don't know mkg and bread's affiliations, so I don't know why you're so hung up on my opinion that this wasn't a village move.
 
I still really want to make that tie.

But I'm not reasonably convinced that either of them are wolves. mkg has made some really solid points today, and I...

idk, maybe I have a bleeding heart for Bread and I shouldn't. I know he's busy irl and tired at the pace of this game, and I know that doesn't make him village, but dang it, I feel bad voting for him.
 
SportPonies said:
I still really want to make that tie.

But I'm not reasonably convinced that either of them are wolves. mkg has made some really solid points today, and I...

idk, maybe I have a bleeding heart for Bread and I shouldn't. I know he's busy irl and tired at the pace of this game, and I know that doesn't make him village, but dang it, I feel bad voting for him.
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The bias in the village direction continues for all but dubz :bigtears:
 
WildZoo said:
I'm still not clear on why you think that's the case. A wolf can't hold onto that extra shot forever. And guess what, they can get away with shooting whoever the hell they want if enough people are like "oh but look, the timing was so villagey!"

This is all just a hypothetical scenario anyway since we don't know mkg and bread's affiliations, so I don't know why you're so hung up on my opinion that this wasn't a village move.
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They can hold it for another couple hours though...

I also never said the timing was villagey, just that it would be a pretty poor use of a vig shot from wolves in terms of timing.

I'm not hung up on it, I just pointed out that I disagree with it being wolf, especially when the write-up strongly suggests otherwise.
 
Stagg737 said:
They can hold it for another couple hours though...

I also never said the timing was villagey, just that it would be a pretty poor use of a vig shot from wolves in terms of timing.

I'm not hung up on it, I just pointed out that I disagree with it being wolf, especially when the write-up strongly suggests otherwise.
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Agree to disagree


Are you going to do some wolf-hunting with your time here?
 
Stagg737 said:
Do you really think I'm not?
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So far you've responded to a dead person and focused your energy on disagreeing with me, about a player whose identity is unknown. So no, I don't think you are.
 
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Stagg737 said:
It's a Pippy game. I'm still trying to smoke that grass cross and apparently it's still not working...
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Pull yourself together, man. This is England for godssake, not some heathen island of lucky charms.
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Animal Midwife said:
I'm not sure what you want me to explain.
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I'm just not understanding why a wolf/village midday vig shot would/would not change with a wolf on the board.
Like, 100% serious, my brain just isn't wrapping around the significance here in context with Stagg's thoughts
 
SportPonies said:
I'm just not understanding why a wolf/village midday vig shot would/would not change with a wolf on the board.
Like, 100% serious, my brain just isn't wrapping around the significance here in context with Stagg's thoughts
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If you're worried about looking excessively bad because there's wolf/wolves in danger, you might wait on using the shot. Otherwise, I don't see why timing would matter at all for a wolf vig.
 
SportPonies said:
I'm just not understanding why a wolf/village midday vig shot would/would not change with a wolf on the board.
Like, 100% serious, my brain just isn't wrapping around the significance here in context with Stagg's thoughts
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Well killing the villager that has been pushing the vote on me draws more attention, and has totally taken over the thread all day. It makes me extra suspicious, even though there is no way zenge used his ability on me, people are using that as a confirmation that he had more reasons than those posted to push me. If this really is a wolf vig kill, I think people were starting to push on wolves, and they shot Z to draw attention away from them, and onto me.
 
So I share the worry that we'll WIFOM over this mkg thing until she flips.

But, Samac saying she's reasonably certain mkg isn't a wolf, and that's still giving me pause.

Killing Bread shaves some dead weight, but I think is unlikely to catch a wolf. Based on how he's played before, I think he would at least make the bare minimum effort as a wolf if he were busy.

I guess I'm asking for a third option? Idk
 
holdthemayo said:
So I share the worry that we'll WIFOM over this mkg thing until she flips.

But, Samac saying she's reasonably certain mkg isn't a wolf, and that's still giving me pause.

Killing Bread shaves some dead weight, but I think is unlikely to catch a wolf. Based on how he's played before, I think he would at least make the bare minimum effort as a wolf if he were busy.

I guess I'm asking for a third option? Idk
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I just noticed your pigeon is very festive.

I am quite happy with an alissa vote.
 
holdthemayo said:
So I share the worry that we'll WIFOM over this mkg thing until she flips.

But, Samac saying she's reasonably certain mkg isn't a wolf, and that's still giving me pause.

Killing Bread shaves some dead weight, but I think is unlikely to catch a wolf. Based on how he's played before, I think he would at least make the bare minimum effort as a wolf if he were busy.

I guess I'm asking for a third option? Idk
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I wouldn't mind a third option based on the wagon stagnation. I'm intrigued by finn's capri vote, mildly interested in the sunny vote but not sure I'm comfy voting with LIS and DocE.
 
Stagg737 said:
How convinced?
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Pretty convinced. His reads he posted were lack luster and left out/ignored some pretty big events that happened recently
The_Breadmann said:
Slight Village
Shorty and now Mayo-felt that the fight between DocE and Shorty was most likely to be v.v
DocE- Same as above
LIS- liking logic behind posts and don't remember anything that pinged me while ISOing him
Samac- hoping that she was actually cleared by a seer (also kinda iffy for jumping in April's wagon upon reread)
Cray- appreciating the posts she has been commenting on and that is why I was commenting on her things
Finn- liking the more calming and collected posts. was thinking that if there was a wolf in each area that it was between her and AM but have been feeling better here

Neutral
AM- mostly her usual self but does not quite feel the same as she did in the apocalypse game(that being said, pippy cannot really antagonize her)
Stagg- need to hear/reread more
MKG- voted for her last night just because I felt better about Visc so it was more of a jump to (after Zenge getting shot I am inclined to think I need to move her down though)

Slight Wolf
MsP- Still kind of shaky on the logic on voting for April

I voted April day one just because I was sheeping Samac. Was starting to vote Finn just under the belief that perhaps there was a wolf in each starting district but then quickly jumped off when I was told that was very unlikely. The reason why I was feeling okay about voting of MKG last night over Visc was Zenge's arguments(even though I was still not too sure how I felt about Zenge either)

Gonna take a wee break and start ISOing again. I have been awake for 4 hours but I feel like I just woke up 10 minutes ago.
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This is what sticks out to me the most, that he only has one wolf read, and its MsP for things that happened super early in the game. No mention of her talk with Bob, which while it was angle shooting, read village as it brought a lot of unnecessary attention to herself. He's been on thread, and he has caught up, but I feel like his reads are what I'd expect if he'd only read D1.
 
I felt like capri sounded village yesterday, and alissa (my #1 wolf read rn) has also been crowing about her suspicion since very early, so I'm not sure I'd move a vote there.
 
Day 3 - Am I Sitting in a Tin Can - Vote Tally

Dina (0) -
Bread (4) - mkg, AM, Cyndia, dubz
Sunshine (2) - DocE, LIS
Cray (0) -
MKG (5) - Dina, capri, barks, genny, Stagg
Barks (1) - Bobloblaw
Finn (2) - samac, alley
Alissa (1) - Sporty
LIS (1) - Sunshine
Capri (1) - Finn

@mkg323 you are in the lead
17/22 players voting, 5/22 players flirting with fire
Voting closes in 1 hour
 
WildZoo said:
I could also go back to dina but seems no one agrees with me on that one :banana:
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Oddly enough I agree with you, but I think I have a better chance of surviving with Bread as the other option so I'll be staying where I am
 
WildZoo said:
So far you've responded to a dead person and focused your energy on disagreeing with me, about a player whose identity is unknown. So no, I don't think you are.
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No, I’ve been talking to far more people than that. Shade noted though.

PippyPony said:
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Pull yourself together, man. This is England for godssake, not some heathen island of lucky charms.
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You mean there aren’t any leprechauns here?!?!


Animal Midwife said:
If you're worried about looking excessively bad because there's wolf/wolves in danger, you might wait on using the shot. Otherwise, I don't see why timing would matter at all for a wolf vig.
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That’s a pretty poor thought process. I expect better from you.
 
SportPonies said:
I felt like capri sounded village yesterday, and alissa (my #1 wolf read rn) has also been crowing about her suspicion since very early, so I'm not sure I'd move a vote there.
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Why is alissa your #1? I hadn't seen you mention her before outside of the vote (unless I forgot, which as you know, is very possible)
 
It bugs me though because I hate losing to absentee wolves more than anything else and I will be so angry with myself if that happens this game because I can't tell the difference between that and absentee villagers
 
WildZoo said:
It bugs me though because I hate losing to absentee wolves more than anything else and I will be so angry with myself if that happens this game because I can't tell the difference between that and absentee villagers
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50 content minimum
 
WildZoo said:
It bugs me though because I hate losing to absentee wolves more than anything else and I will be so angry with myself if that happens this game because I can't tell the difference between that and absentee villagers
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vote closes in an hour and 5 people haven't voted. that's so insulting to pip, after she spent her free time making this game.
 
WildZoo said:
Why is alissa your #1? I hadn't seen you mention her before outside of the vote (unless I forgot, which as you know, is very possible)
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I thought I did say something.
but basically I ISOd her because she didn’t sound normal, and I haven’t seen any of the level of play I’d expect from her. Even when she’s around, it’s fluff or Capri bashing.
 
SportPonies said:
I thought I did say something.
but basically I ISOd her because she didn’t sound normal, and I haven’t seen any of the level of play I’d expect from her. Even when she’s around, it’s fluff or Capri bashing.
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I saw you say you were going to ISO but didn't see you comment after you had. Noted, though.
 
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Not to interrupt this voting cycle with modding thoughts that no one asked for, but this will be my last 36-12 game. Sucks the life out of everything and makes ghosting worse, especially in a huge game like this one.

And as mentioned in the intro post, I reserve the right to move this game to a 12-12 as we go further along.

Sorry for the interruption, carry on with the murder & high treason

:=|:-):
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