ERAS and PhD transcript for MD-PhD applicants

[Habenula]

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Does anyone know whether MD-PhD applicants to residency programs are also required to release their graduate school (PhD) transcripts???? It would seem that only the med school transcript would be required but I'm being asked to release my graduate school transcript by my med school. By extension, do programs consider my ERAS app incomplete without my PhD transcript????? (Wouldn't make sense to me but feeling the pressure from the higher ups to release additional info--just don't want to give any program more slack to hang myself by!)

Thanks.

 

[gutonc]

Does anyone know whether MD-PhD applicants to residency programs are also required to release their graduate school (PhD) transcripts???? It would seem that only the med school transcript would be required but I'm being asked to release my graduate school transcript by my med school. By extension, do programs consider my ERAS app incomplete without my PhD transcript????? (Wouldn't make sense to me but feeling the pressure from the higher ups to release additional info--just don't want to give any program more slack to hang myself by!)

Thanks.

It's one of those things where not having it will look worse than whatever is on your transcript. If you don't release it, it looks like you're trying to hide something. Nobody will care that you got a C in your first year grad biochem course if you successfully completed the program and scored your PhD.

FWIW, my program put everything all on one transcript, Med school and grad school grades together. So I didn't have a choice.

 

[reddittech]

It's one of those things where not having it will look worse than whatever is on your transcript. If you don't release it, it looks like you're trying to hide something. Nobody will care that you got a C in your first year grad biochem course if you successfully completed the program and scored your PhD.

FWIW, my program put everything all on one transcript, Med school and grad school grades together. So I didn't have a choice.

The opposite happened to me. I asked my medical school to upload my grad school transcript and they said no. What're you gonna do. *shrug*

 

[Habenula]

It's one of those things where not having it will look worse than whatever is on your transcript. If you don't release it, it looks like you're trying to hide something. Nobody will care that you got a C in your first year grad biochem course if you successfully completed the program and scored your PhD.

FWIW, my program put everything all on one transcript, Med school and grad school grades together. So I didn't have a choice.

But therein lies the rub...are programs really expecting to receive a separate graduate school transcript? If the med school transcript satisfies their thirst and different med schools either do or do not include them, is this really a requisite? Of course it's always easiest to just do what your home school asks but I'd like to be considered like my med student colleagues as far as transcripts. Again why give a program a chance to stigmatize you for a "C" in a course in 3D structural analyses of Buckyballs when all the other applicants are being looked at for clerkship grades, USMLE score(s), etc.? I may be fighting an ideologically losing battle! But I don't want to kowtow to what makes my dean's office feel better as opposed to what might be in my best interest.

 

[QofQuimica]

Habenula, just do what your school wants and stop wasting your time worrying about this. Of all the things you could pick to take a stand on, this one is pretty silly. Look at it this way: all the time you would be spending to fight the man is time you can't spend acing your AIs. And your AI grades matter a lot more to PDs than some buckyball course you took 5+ years ago. 😉

 

[SeminoleFan3]

But therein lies the rub...are programs really expecting to receive a separate graduate school transcript? If the med school transcript satisfies their thirst and different med schools either do or do not include them, is this really a requisite? Of course it's always easiest to just do what your home school asks but I'd like to be considered like my med student colleagues as far as transcripts. Again why give a program a chance to stigmatize you for a "C" in a course in 3D structural analyses of Buckyballs when all the other applicants are being looked at for clerkship grades, USMLE score(s), etc.? I may be fighting an ideologically losing battle! But I don't want to kowtow to what makes my dean's office feel better as opposed to what might be in my best interest.

Do you want them to know you have a PhD? If you managed to get that somewhere on your ERAS, then yes, I think you should release your transcripts. You don't get to be like "every other med student" because you're not. Some more "research friendly" places are going to look better upon you because of the PhD. Like the person above me said, it's a stupid point and not something worth getting into with your school.

 

[notdeadyet]

Habenula, just do what your school wants and stop wasting your time worrying about this. Of all the things you could pick to take a stand on, this one is pretty silly. Look at it this way: all the time you would be spending to fight the man is time you can't spend acing your AIs. And your AI grades matter a lot more to PDs than some buckyball course you took 5+ years ago. 😉

Ditto this ^^^.

 

[Habenula]

I acquiesce. Maybe I'll channel the energy towards developing a drinking habit!

 

[gutonc]

I acquiesce. Maybe I'll channel the energy towards developing a drinking habit!

Congratulations on figuring it out this early in the process.

 

[zestdoc]

I have an MPH. ERAS folks said that if my dean's office (ECFMG) uploads an additional transcript, it will replace my medical school transcript. So to play safe I have decided to carry my transcripts with me to interview rather than uploading them to ERAS.

As it is, I don't think MPH grades (or PhD in your case) would matter for fetching an IV.

 

[sendwich]

Just to ride off your post....I did a SMP type program (as a masters degree) before medschool. Do I need to send out a transcript from this as well? Includes classes equivalent to 1st year medschool.