EVERYONE is capable of getting good grades!

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Don't give up hope guys. We're all going to make it!

 

[nyc1990]

 

[Reckoner]

Don't give up hope guys. We're all going to make it!

Statistics would beg to differ...

 

[solitarius]

Yeah, a lot of people aren't cut out for this unfortunately despite massive amounts of desire and angst.

 

[breakmon]

Statistics would beg to differ...

LOL good point. But that doesn't mean that they weren't capable of getting good grades, just that they didn't want it enough IMO.

 

[TexasSurgeon]

Don't give up hope guys. We're all going to make it!

I agree with this 60%

 

[Mel Belle]

LOL good point. But that doesn't mean that they weren't capable of getting good grades, just that they didn't want it enough IMO.

Well, I would think IQ could potentially have something to do with it. A LOT of this is hard work, don't get me wrong, but if you simply cannot understand certain aspects of science simply because... you can't understand them... then no reasonable amount of hard work is going to help, IMO. Some people just don't have the thinking process that's necessary to excel in the sciences. (I'm sure those people have strengths somewhere else, of course.)

I suppose, theoretically, if someone put in A LOT of time and energy into understanding something, they could. But ain't nobody got time for that. Find your strengths and use them to your advantage. IMO, it's better to be really good at a job that's not in medicine than to agonize over being really bad with medicine. Some people just need to swallow their pride. Anyone who realizes that and changes their career path isn't a loser who gave up or stupid... they're smart for going with their strengths. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[breakmon]

Well, I would think IQ could potentially have something to do with it. A LOT of this is hard work, don't get me wrong, but if you simply cannot understand certain aspects of science simply because... you can't understand them... then no reasonable amount of hard work is going to help, IMO. Some people just don't have the thinking process that's necessary to excel in the sciences. (I'm sure those people have strengths somewhere else, of course.)

I suppose, theoretically, if someone put in A LOT of time and energy into understanding something, they could. But ain't nobody got time for that. Find your strengths and use them to your advantage. IMO, it's better to be really good at a job that's not in medicine than to agonize over being really bad with medicine. Some people just need to swallow their pride. Anyone who realizes that and changes their career path isn't a loser who gave up or stupid... they're smart for going with their strengths. Nothing wrong with that.

Wow. That is a very wise outlook. I like you!

 

[Mel Belle]

Wow. That is a very wise outlook. I like you!

Haha, thanks!

 

[goft20]

I was born to fail


















Organic chemistry 1 and 2 with Bs.


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[breakmon]

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Lol no biggie dude. Brush it off! On to the next one.

 

[Doudline]

Well, I would think IQ could potentially have something to do with it. A LOT of this is hard work, don't get me wrong, but if you simply cannot understand certain aspects of science simply because... you can't understand them... then no reasonable amount of hard work is going to help, IMO. Some people just don't have the thinking process that's necessary to excel in the sciences. (I'm sure those people have strengths somewhere else, of course.)

I suppose, theoretically, if someone put in A LOT of time and energy into understanding something, they could. But ain't nobody got time for that. Find your strengths and use them to your advantage. IMO, it's better to be really good at a job that's not in medicine than to agonize over being really bad with medicine. Some people just need to swallow their pride. Anyone who realizes that and changes their career path isn't a loser who gave up or stupid... they're smart for going with their strengths. Nothing wrong with that.

You do not understand what IQ is.

Someone that went through high school and graduated without tremendous difficulties (meaning with tireless supervised efforts) has a high enough IQ to get good grades in most college classes. Stop thinking that you are a God amongst mortals simply because you passed introductory chemistry; it is not a testament to your IQ nor does others' failure in the class speak for theirs. In college, 95% of what decides success is effort; yes, somebody on the lower side of the (IQ) mean is going to have it harder, but it will mostly reflect on time management, because the material is almost systematically simple and requires drilling more than anything else.

(Also can't even fathom what was going on in your brain when you wrote the end of your first paragraph. Yeah honey, you're right, intelligence is the prerogative of the natural sciences. At least the plebeians of humanities and social sciences can become hairdressers or janitors, uh?)

 

[NontradCA]

Well, I would think IQ could potentially have something to do with it. A LOT of this is hard work, don't get me wrong, but if you simply cannot understand certain aspects of science simply because... you can't understand them... then no reasonable amount of hard work is going to help, IMO. Some people just don't have the thinking process that's necessary to excel in the sciences. (I'm sure those people have strengths somewhere else, of course.)

I suppose, theoretically, if someone put in A LOT of time and energy into understanding something, they could. But ain't nobody got time for that. Find your strengths and use them to your advantage. IMO, it's better to be really good at a job that's not in medicine than to agonize over being really bad with medicine. Some people just need to swallow their pride. Anyone who realizes that and changes their career path isn't a loser who gave up or stupid... they're smart for going with their strengths. Nothing wrong with that.

Wow get over yourself. You're the reason people think physicians are douches.

 

[kingjameslbj]

Says this guy.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/thr...go-to-see-a-black-or-hispanic-doctor.1061196/

I wouldn't even want to sit next to you in a graveyard.

 

[Mel Belle]

You do not understand what IQ is.

But you do? What credentials do you have to say that you know what it is but I don't? I've gone through psych testing myself. I've taken a class on the subject. That's not to say that I'm an expert on the subject, not at all, but what makes you an expert, then? We're on the same playing field. I think that was an elitist statement.

Someone that went through high school and graduated without tremendous difficulties (meaning with tireless supervised efforts) has a high enough IQ to get good grades in most college classes. Stop thinking that you are a God amongst mortals simply because you passed introductory chemistry; it is not a testament to your IQ nor does others' failure in the class speak for theirs. In college, 95% of what decides success is effort; yes, somebody on the lower side of the (IQ) mean is going to have it harder, but it will mostly reflect on time management, because the material is almost systematically simple and requires drilling more than anything else.

Wow get over yourself. You're the reason people think physicians are douches.

You two obviously did not understand what I was getting at, thanks for being dinguses about it. I wasn't referring to IQ necessarily in a quantitative sense, but more in a qualitative sense. That is, to look at how people have different intellectual strengths. People think differently. I consider myself incapable of learning history adequately, because I feel that I lack certain mental capacities to excel in it. Someone might feel the same way about science courses. I'm dating a just-graduated history teacher who excels at history but not at science. Does that mean I think I'm better than him? No. We each have our own valuable skills. But that seems to be your assumption.

I just thought that the idea of this thread lacked some realism, and that's what I was trying to incorporate here. And I don't see how stating that some people are better at certain things than others is elitist. Please explain that to me, oh great ones. I've worked tirelessly with certain students at the tutoring center, and for all the hard work they put into chemistry and biology, they still come to me, as well as other tutors, saying they don't understand it. Can we attest that to study skills? Perhaps. But that would still tell us that hard work isn't the only part of the equation. Clearly someone can work very hard on a subject and still not do well in it, with the reason being either poor study skills, the inability to understand certain concepts, or some other factor.

Simply put, some people are better at certain types of thinking than others. NO WHERE in my post did I say I think I'm God, or even mention my own strengths or weaknesses. Both of you input your own tonalities into my words, and that is your problem.

Statistics would beg to differ...

Yeah, a lot of people aren't cut out for this unfortunately despite massive amounts of desire and angst.

I mean, really. You attack my post specifically when these people essentially said the same thing I did? Really?