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[BK421]

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It is mostly combined. All of the programs will begin orientation on the 18th. There are a few differences which will be noted on the schedule that you get on the first day of orientation. The Med Masters usually have to attend one separate info session to address issues that are specific to the program.

 

[asakkings]

Hey guys what do you guys think my chances are for next cycle, i will have a 3.14 GPA with similar science from UCLA in a tough major and MCAT score i just got today of 34Q, improved from 28R that i had over the summer.

 

[ChronicRain]

Hey guys what do you guys think my chances are for next cycle, i will have a 3.14 GPA with similar science from UCLA in a tough major and MCAT score i just got today of 34Q, improved from 28R that i had over the summer.

i think your score is perfect for SMP, i got lower MCAT score than you and I was able to get in, so you'll be fine

 

[UnderdogMD]

In the other EVMS thread BK421 posted the info:

Fall -
With med students:
Medical Molecular Cell Biology (MMCB)
Embryology
Physiology
Not with med students:
Histology (Same course as med students just not in same room at same time)
Topics in Biomedical Sciences
Thesis

Spring -
With med students:
Biochemistry
Physiology (continued)
Not with med students:
Research Techniques
Concepts in cell biology and physiology
Thesis (continued)

On this website http://www.evms.edu/hlthprof/ms-bio-medical/index.html however, physiology is listed as a spring semester course only. So is physiology start in fall or does it start in spring? Sorry for the confusion.

 

[blindkutha]

In the other EVMS thread BK421 posted the info:

Fall -
With med students:
Medical Molecular Cell Biology (MMCB)
Embryology
Physiology
Not with med students:
Histology (Same course as med students just not in same room at same time)
Topics in Biomedical Sciences
Thesis

Spring -
With med students:
Biochemistry
Physiology (continued)
Not with med students:
Research Techniques
Concepts in cell biology and physiology
Thesis (continued)

On this website http://www.evms.edu/hlthprof/ms-bio-medical/index.html however, physiology is listed as a spring semester course only. So is physiology start in fall or does it start in spring? Sorry for the confusion.

Physio starts in October and goes until the very end.

Hey guys what do you guys think my chances are for next cycle, i will have a 3.14 GPA with similar science from UCLA in a tough major and MCAT score i just got today of 34Q, improved from 28R that i had over the summer.

You should be able to get into a med school with those numbers if you apply very widely and early. A buddy of mine at Cal had a 42 with a 3.1 as an MCB major and got into multiple places. I'd apply for med school first and then if its not going so hot, apply for SMPs starting in January. You should be able to get on a waitlist somewhere which would make you eligible for Tulane's ACP program. That program is pretty much a guaranteed admission to Tulane.

 

[asakkings]

Physio starts in October and goes until the very end.




You should be able to get into a med school with those numbers if you apply very widely and early. A buddy of mine at Cal had a 42 with a 3.1 as an MCB major and got into multiple places. I'd apply for med school first and then if its not going so hot, apply for SMPs starting in January. You should be able to get on a waitlist somewhere which would make you eligible for Tulane's ACP program. That program is pretty much a guaranteed admission to Tulane.

There is a pretty big difference between 34 and 42 but i will apply this summer since i qualify for the Fee assistance program and hopefully i get interview and go from there. Thanx for the input guys i am definately looking forward to applying next year.

 

[mikkey]

I applied to the Med Masters program a month and a half ago and I haven't heard anything! My stats are more than competitive (see profile), so I don't understand what is going on... Anyone have a clue?

 

[Drji]

I applied to the Med Masters program a month and a half ago and I haven't heard anything! My stats are more than competitive (see profile), so I don't understand what is going on... Anyone have a clue?

I think the class is already full and they have just been putting the rest of us on a wait list.

 

[ChronicRain]

I applied to the Med Masters program a month and a half ago and I haven't heard anything! My stats are more than competitive (see profile), so I don't understand what is going on... Anyone have a clue?

are u sure u need to go the SMP?

 

[mikkey]

are u sure u need to go the SMP?

Everybody keeps asking that but I haven't gotten any acceptances so far. So the answer is yes. Here's why.
EVMS's program would help me secure a spot in the class next year and EVMS is one of my top choices. It would really help because I am Canadian and according to some of the schools that rejected me, I'm just "average" GPA and MCAT wise. The schools that interviewed me told me that I rocked the interview and that my CV was impressive, and several MDs worked on my PS until it was good. Hence I need an edge. This would have been my edge had they accepted me, which looks highly improbable at this time and now, I am really at loss as to why an SMP would not take me. Need I mention that I firmly believe that bad luck is trailing me...

 

[skim87]

I'm in a similar situation as you, I applied a little later and now people are saying they already enrolled 20+ students. I would apply to other programs such as Drexels IMS program which is not due until july. However, programs usually enroll a lot more people than there is room (~40% more) which leads me to believe that they are still accepting students.

my two cents.😀

 

[Dr__Robert]

I'm in a similar situation as you, I applied a little later and now people are saying they already enrolled 20+ students. I would apply to other programs such as Drexels IMS program which is not due until july. However, programs usually enroll a lot more people than there is room (~40% more) which leads me to believe that they are still accepting students.

my two cents.😀

Yeah, with the EVMS medmaster program I wouldn't count on this at all. There might be a student or two who is currently accepted that will get off of a med school waitlist, or withdraw for some other reason -- in which case they will take students from the waitlist to fill those spots. But I seriously doubt anymore students are accepted other than coming off the waitlist to fill recently vacated spots.

 

[mikkey]

And I am waitlisted. This makes absolutely no sense. My stats were more than competitive for this program. I just don't understand. And I am starting to think that this whole application process is a bunch of bull.

 

[Drji]

And I am waitlisted. This makes absolutely no sense. My stats were more than competitive for this program. I just don't understand. And I am starting to think that this whole application process is a bunch of bull.

Don't worry buddy, they waitlisted everyone, I got waitlisted as well. Like I told you before, the class seems to already be full and we will all just have to wait and hope that someone that is accepted declines their invite so that we have a chance of getting in. You still have some time might want to apply to some other smp like gtown, or boston.

I just noticed that you are on 3 waitlist for medical school, so you might get in without having to do the smp. Good luck, hope you get off the waitlist.

 

[igcgnerd]

And I am waitlisted. This makes absolutely no sense. My stats were more than competitive for this program. I just don't understand. And I am starting to think that this whole application process is a bunch of bull.

I might also recommend the Tulane ACP program since you are on a med school wait list. It is the closest thing to a guarantee that you can get and its only one semester, because the spring is voluntary.

 

[skim87]

I am also waitlisted

better than being rejected?

 

[Drji]

I am also waitlisted

better than being rejected?

Was anyone even rejected. I think they might have waitlisted everyone.

 

[skim87]

So I found out I was on waitlist like two days ago when someone called me and asked me if I was still interested in going to EVMS. I told her I didn't even realize I was on wait list and apparently they mailed the letter wrong.

To my surprise today I got my acceptance letter 😀! So I'm guessing the phone call is a good sign for those still waiting.

 

[Drji]

So I found out I was on waitlist like two days ago when someone called me and asked me if I was still interested in going to EVMS. I told her I didn't even realize I was on wait list and apparently they mailed the letter wrong.

To my surprise today I got my acceptance letter 😀! So I'm guessing the phone call is a good sign for those still waiting.

Congrats. Now I will probably end up trying to rush to the phone every time it rings.🙄

Do you mind sharing your stats to give others on the wait list some hope and maybe if you are instate?

 

[blindkutha]

I know of one other who was accepted the other day as well. Contrary to a prior posting, there will be a lot of waitlist movement and you still have a chance of getting in if you're waitlisted.

 

[skim87]

12V 11B 9P Writing: Q

3.2GPA 3.1 Sci GPA

lots of unique EC and good rec letters

 

[killinsound]

Just a heads up...

I got into Mt. Sinai's program, have another opportunity to do major research for a year, and am waiting to hear back from my only MD interview... It looks like I will be withdrawing from EVMS SMP soon. Hope one of you guys get it!

 

[Drji]

Just a heads up...

I got into Mt. Sinai's program, have another opportunity to do major research for a year, and am waiting to hear back from my only MD interview... It looks like I will be withdrawing from EVMS SMP soon. Hope one of you guys get it!

Good luck I hope you get in.

 

[Drji]

So I called Rose today and she told me that there hasn't been any movement on the waitlist yet but to except to see some movement soon. Also she said to except to see a fedex package and a phone call from them like she knew I was going to get one. Hopefully I am not reading too much into the way she said it but I am going to keep my fingers crossed. 😳

 

[skim87]

Good luck!

sorry i didn't see your other question. I am from Maryland and I'm a few hours away from EVMS. I think I'm visiting the school after graduation...anyone going between may 25th-28th?

 

[asakkings]

hey people on the waitlist can you please list your stats i would like to see how much i compare for next year. thanks

 

[skim87]

I just got accepted to Georgetown SMP and I can't decide between the two. Anyone in a similar situation? Advice would be nice right now...

 

[ChronicRain]

I just got accepted to Georgetown SMP and I can't decide between the two. Anyone in a similar situation? Advice would be nice right now...

I think the consensus is that EVMS is better in terms of gettin into ONE school i.e. EVMS, but dose not increase the chance of you gettin into others, but Georgetown is better if you want to go to some other schools but the rate is lower (i think 50% - 80%)
but Georgetown accept a lot more SMP than EVMS (which is only 23 this year i think) so at EVMS you will get a much more personal experience. theres also a ton of info comparing these two schools, just look around a bit

 

[UnderdogMD]

21 people will graduate this year. But one person in our class that is graduating did not apply to med school this year, so only 20 of us are eligible for admission. Also, I believe that the actual stats for the MM '07 class are 16/18, since one person during the summer was accepted off the waitlist. I might be mistaken about this though.

We should find out our status around May 15th.

Have you guys found out yet how many of the 21 got in?

How does it work? Does everybody find out on the same day?

 

[BK421]

Official acceptances will begin Monday or Tuesday. We will be accepted off of the waitlist as spots become available in the class.

 

[UnderdogMD]

Official acceptances will begin Monday or Tuesday. We will be accepted off of the waitlist as spots become available in the class.

So pretty much everybody is wait listed and nobody hears anything until post-graduation?

Dude, I would be so nervous.

Looking back in this thread, all decisions for last years class cleared up by May 30th.

 

[BK421]

You are exactly right....wait listed until after graduation. Graduation was Saturday, May 17. It would be wonderful and ease a lot of weary minds if everyone has an official decision in hand by the end of May. We'll keep you posted.

 

[zackscoot]

You are exactly right....wait listed until after graduation. Graduation was Saturday, May 17. It would be wonderful and ease a lot of weary minds if everyone has an official decision in hand by the end of May. We'll keep you posted.

Has anyone in the program so far been accepted into EVMS without going through the waitlist?

 

[Doctor Brown]

Has anyone in the program so far been accepted into EVMS without going through the waitlist?

Nope. We are all waitlisted.

 

[UnderdogMD]

Thanks to the current med masters for answering our questions.

Wish you guys luck.

 

[Dr__Robert]

Have you guys found out yet how many of the 21 got in?

How does it work? Does everybody find out on the same day?

For reasons inexplicable to the students, only 11 of 20 students have found out so far. Hopefully the others will hear soon.

 

[Doctor Brown]

For reasons inexplicable to the students, only 11 of 20 students have found out so far. Hopefully the others will hear soon.

Two things:

1. For you current waitlisters, it seems a decent amount of accepted applicants to the Med Master program recently withdrew their acceptances, so there should be movement on the list soon.

2. While only 11 people have heard back regarding admissions, it seems the majority of the class will eventually gain an acceptance. If this ends up not occurring and half the class gets rejected, then I will let you future Med Master's know. But as I said, I am pretty confident the acceptance rate into the medical school will be around 85 percent.

 

[blindkutha]

I think the consensus is that EVMS is better in terms of gettin into ONE school i.e. EVMS, but dose not increase the chance of you gettin into others, but Georgetown is better if you want to go to some other schools but the rate is lower (i think 50% - 80%)
but Georgetown accept a lot more SMP than EVMS (which is only 23 this year i think) so at EVMS you will get a much more personal experience. theres also a ton of info comparing these two schools, just look around a bit

Students in the EVMS program generally only apply to a handful of schools, and in a lot of cases, just EVMS. However, people have interviewed and gotten in all over the place. It really depends on how widely you apply, which for EVMS students is generally pretty narrow. If you have the right numbers and do well in the program, you should be able to get in outside of EVMS. The lack of people applying widely creates a misleading assumption that EVMS SMP will only get you into the EVMS MD program. EVMS SMP will open doors for you outside of EVMS, but it really depends on how many doors YOU want to open.

The Georgetown program has a ton of out of staters and is much larger. I'd say more than 50% of Georgetown SMPers are from CA alone. CA people that do the SMPs generally apply to 20+ schools because its very difficult for us to make it back to CA for med school. EVMS is around 50% instate and a lot of them have a huge incentive to stay at EVMS because its relatively cheap (20k a year for med school) and want to live in VA.

EVMS is the best SMP program with the safest investment of both time and money.

 

[blindkutha]

Someone asked me some questions so i thought I'd post them up.

I dont know if anyone besides the initial 11 have heard yet. People are pretty hush hush about it.

I remember you saying that most students study off the syllabus, but what is that exactly?
-The syllabus is more like a reader. I dont know why they call it a syllabus, its a bit of a misnomer. Its just basically a print out of all the PowerPoint slides for that class. You basically study off the slides for all your classes. Some packets can get pretty thick. I think the biochem one is like 800 pages, physio 1200, histo 400, etc.

Is it a pdf document that the professors hand out to you on the first day of class - or is it more like a reader?
-The professors dont hand them out, you usually have to get them yourselves from some office or they're in your mailbox. The online versions are either PDF or PPT files. Every once in a while you have to get an updated version of the notes online.

Also are most of the lecture material on powerpoint/pdf or are there still some professors who write out their notes on boards?
-Most of the stuff you're tested on is straight from the notes. Sometimes professor may talk about stuff and go off on tangents that could be testable or would make getting the question on the test a lot easier but they rarely test off the notes.

How much of the material do you actually print out or is everything computer assessable?
-Both. You get a print out and you can access it online.The bulk of your printing goes towards printing out old tests. I think for histo and embryo you have to print out the in class lecture presented lecture slides but they give you a copy of the notes which are different than the slides.

What format/application do you need to replay the lectures on the computer?
-I'm assuming you mean the recordings of the lectures. You need an mp3 player. In general, I would only attend clinical correlation lectures because they're usually impossible to follow with out actually being in class.

I don't know how large the files are, but would it be easy for you to forward me the syllabi for the fall semester classes?
-There are a ton of files and some are bigger than others. I dont really have time to do it. Sorry! Maybe if you ask the professors to do it, they might. Trust me, you'll have enough time to look at them in the Fall. I can assure you of that. Better to rest up or get a job and make some money.

 

[Dr__Robert]

Just as an update:
If the rumors swirling around are true, and I have some reason to believe that they are, 13 of the 20 medmasters who applied for the MD program at EVMS have been admitted.

 

[HaloMasterChief]

Just as an update:
If the rumors swirling around are true, and I have some reason to believe that they are, 13 of the 20 medmasters who applied for the MD program at EVMS have been admitted.

I assume they were taken from the waitlist and not directly admitted???

 

[UnderdogMD]

I assume they were taken from the waitlist and not directly admitted???

Apparently all med masters who are accepted are accepted off of the waitlist. Nobody is directly admitted.

 

[Dr__Robert]

Apparently all med masters who are accepted are accepted off of the waitlist. Nobody is directly admitted.

This is correct.

 

[ChronicRain]

Do you guys use textbooks? if so could someone list some of the books used? I wanted to start looking over the stuff over the summer. Thank you very much

 

[Dr__Robert]

Do you guys use textbooks? if so could someone list some of the books used? I wanted to start looking over the stuff over the summer. Thank you very much

There's really no reason to buy the books over the summer. As a medmaster, there is really only one textbook that you truly need -- the Histology atlas. I don't recommend wasting your money on anything else. The only other possible exception would be a Costanzo authored Physiology condensed review-type book I have seen many people with (which was not required or recommended for the course, due to a personal feud between the author and our course director). All other required/recommended texts are basically useless, as the syllabus/reader will be what you really need.

Oh -- you will be required to have or have copies of a case study book for Biochem small group, but I highly recommend copying it in the library and saving 30 bucks, thats what I did.

 

[BK421]

I agree with Dr Robert….most everything you need to know is in the syllabus with the exception of histology. Buy the histology text and atlas! The other courses do not follow a particular text. The texts are best used for clarification of material that you do not understand from the syllabus. There is far more information in the some of the texts than you will need. Also, there is information in the syllabus that is not in the text.

My recommendation is not to jump in and buy all of the required and recommended texts right away. Take some time to figure out if you are comfortable learning the material from the syllabus and lectures. If you feel that you need a textbook, explore and look at several different ones for the subject and choose one because you find it useful, not because it is the recommended one. If you are in a pinch and need a text for clarification, all required and recommended texts are on reserve in the library and can be checked out.

Also…enjoy your summer! Don’t worry about reading ahead…your time will be better spent relaxing.

 

[Dr__Robert]

Also…enjoy your summer! Don’t worry about reading ahead…your time will be better spent relaxing.

Truer words have not been spoken BK. The medmaster year will be very rough, but very worth it if you do the work.

 

[ChronicRain]

Also…enjoy your summer! Don’t worry about reading ahead…your time will be better spent relaxing.

I'll truly enjoy it after I finish my AMCAS app 😴

 

[danaerys]

Good luck to all of next year's Med Masters turning in their AMCAS apps today (or in the future 😉)!

 

[Doctor Brown]

Just posting to let people on the waitlist for the Med Master's program know that a decent amount of people have withdrew there acceptances, so the waitlist should be moving. Also, I believe the number of Med Masters from the past year that have been accepted to EVMS is currently at 16. And I am pretty certain more of us will be accepted shortly.