ex-kleptomaniac who wants to be pharmacist

[zoedotdotdot]

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Hey. My friend wanted me to ask this on this forum. She is an ex-kleptomaniac who suffered from depression and shoplifted frequently from many places, including walgreens, cvs, target, walmart, and basically many places with pharmacies. That was years ago at the end of hs/beginning of college. She has since recovered and stopped shoplifting. She turned her life around and is now considering pharmacy. But she was worried about getting jobs at the places she stole from, even as a pharm tech let alone pharmacist if she makes it into pharm school. She is very sorry for her crimes in the past, but she wants to know whether or not it is safe to work for companies she stole from. Do these stores have blacklists or permanent flyers with video captures of shoplifters?

 

[Tessalon]

Hey. My friend wanted me to ask this on this forum. She is an ex-kleptomaniac who suffered from depression and shoplifted frequently from many places, including walgreens, cvs, target, walmart, and basically many places with pharmacies. That was years ago at the end of hs/beginning of college. She has since recovered and stopped shoplifting. She turned her life around and is now considering pharmacy. But she was worried about getting jobs at the places she stole from, even as a pharm tech let alone pharmacist if she makes it into pharm school. She is very sorry for her crimes in the past, but she wants to know whether or not it is safe to work for companies she stole from. Do these stores have blacklists or permanent flyers with video captures of shoplifters?

If she has any type of criminal record involving stealing from pharmacies, I would think it would be VERY difficult to get licensed as a pharmacist, let alone hired as a tech. It's great that she has "turned her life around" , but I would still worry about trusting her - especially around controlled substances. Maybe she needs to consider an office career where she can steal post-its instead of Oxycontin.

But no, I've never heard of blacklists of shoplifters.

 

[sdn1977]

I think you're friend needs to really rethink things.

I'm surely no psychiatrist,but kleptomania is a myriad of symptons which may indicate an actual disease process. I think one form of treatment might be behavior modification...altho..again - this is your friend & I'm no physician - so take that with the knowledge it is not a professional opinion since I'm not qualified to give one.

But, as a pharmacist, I can give you an opinion regarding those who have issues with temptation and a pharmacy is not the environment for those folks. It could damage any behavioral changes which the individual might have put in place.

There are many other aspects of healthcare which to pursue and pharmacy might not be the most beneficial for this person's health and future.

 

[Tired Pigeon]

Troll alert.

 

[sdn1977]

Troll alert.

Ya know...I did actually wonder about that...but 'tis the season....😕

 

[Caverject]

she should get a job at walgreens...she will fit in quite well im sure

 

[zoedotdotdot]

Hi. No I am not a troll. This is a real story. My friend was a compulsive shoplifter, but she turned her life around. I know you all think she should not do pharmacy since the temptation is so great to steal, but back then, she was only an average student, but she turned her life around and did well enough to be accepted into pharmacy school (she just got her acceptance last week). She has stopped shoplifting, drinking alcohol, and smoking for several years, and even I am surprised by her turnaround (even I stopped being her friend at her worst stage of depression....she had to win my friendship back by her change, so-to-speak). So she deserves to be given a second chance and should not be told not to go into pharmacy because she'll never change. That is just negative thinking and advise.

But irregardless of the temptation aspects, she just wants to know whether stores like Walgreens, CVS, Walmart, Target, etc. have some sort of system set up that stores photos or videocaptures of past shoplifters and trains employees to recognize these people. She is very sorry for her crimes, but she cannot undo them at this point in time. She only hopes it won't come back to bite her when she applies for jobs at these retail chains.

 

[sdn1977]

Hi. No I am not a troll. This is a real story. My friend was a compulsive shoplifter, but she turned her life around. I know you all think she should not do pharmacy since the temptation is so great to steal, but back then, she was only an average student, but she turned her life around and did well enough to be accepted into pharmacy school (she just got her acceptance last week). She has stopped shoplifting, drinking alcohol, and smoking for several years, and even I am surprised by her turnaround (even I stopped being her friend at her worst stage of depression....she had to win my friendship back by her change, so-to-speak). So she deserves to be given a second chance and should not be told not to go into pharmacy because she'll never change. That is just negative thinking and advise.

But irregardless of the temptation aspects, she just wants to know whether stores like Walgreens, CVS, Walmart, Target, etc. have some sort of system set up that stores photos or videocaptures of past shoplifters and trains employees to recognize these people. She is very sorry for her crimes, but she cannot undo them at this point in time. She only hopes it won't come back to bite her when she applies for jobs at these retail chains.

If she were prosecuted for her crimes, all that is on file & linked to her fingerprints which are required to obtain a license. On most applications, there is a statement requiring a yes/no answer about convictions of crimes. So..it may come out, but not on old videos - only on archived arrest records.

As much as you admire & like your friend & wish her the best, her rate of recidivism, if she completed a treatment program can be 3% - without a treatment program for shoplifting specifically, the rate can be as high as 25%. Now, throw alcohol abuse & depression & she has a very high rate of relapse. I don't say that to be negative, only to make you aware of what those of us in this business already know.

She is not a good candidate for a job where she is around drugs &/or money. Given that she has already been accepted (& has not lied on the applications - which may have asked for any arrests or convictions)...then she would find a better outlet for her professional future in the consulting realm where she is not continually exposed to temptation.

Sorry if that comes across negative, but that is how I would view her situation as someone who has been in this business a long time.

 

[McZyprexalynn]

Don't all pharmacy schools require a background check before you can even start? My acceptance was conditional on passing the background check.

 

[ForcedEntry]

she should get a job at walgreens...she will fit in quite well im sure

CJ, I must admit...you have the best avatar ever created.

 

[ZpackSux]

A person on the OIG (office of inspector general) list can not be an employee of a business that participate in a business who are medicaid and/or medicare providers...pretty much every healthcare business.

A felony charge gets a person on the OIG list.

 

[Da Alchemist]

what does troll mean? by the way once a thief always a thief. When she becomes a pharmacist. it will be easier for her to get access. and make millions off drugs lol.

 

[Farmercyst]

You know those threads that pop up about once every other week and continue for 2-3 days using different names. You know the ones that talk about schools where the hot girls go that can be bought off with independently wealthy parents who are health professionals. Those threads were started by trolls. The people who intentionally bring up topics that are either so outlandish (only want to go to pharmacy school where I can work on my tan and pick up chicks) it couldn't possibly be a serious question, or so against what would be considered normal morals/logic (buying your way into pharmacy school) That it brings out the worst in those of us that use normal logic/morals and ask decent questions. These are what we like to call trolls. We try to make sure they don't last too long.

 

[Dustbunny]

It's certainly very possible for your friend to become a pharmacist. I hope she does!

I have a friend who was busted for stealing ketamine from the hospital he worked at. He'd been doing it for months. Sure, he got in a load of hot water with the authorities and the board of pharmacy. He's also still on probation, etc.

But he's also now a licensed pharmacist with a PharmD attending law school. Making it through the admissions committee will be the hardest part of becoming a pharmacist for your friend.

 

[zoedotdotdot]

Thanks for the replies. No, my friend has not been convicted of a crime. She was never caught for any of her shoplifting. I agree that she should've been caught, but now that she has gotten better, she is just worried that stores she stole from might recognize her if she applies for a job as a pharmacy tech there or does a clerkship there.

 

[howsoonisnow]

Thanks for the replies. No, my friend has not been convicted of a crime. She was never caught for any of her shoplifting. I agree that she should've been caught, but now that she has gotten better, she is just worried that stores she stole from might recognize her if she applies for a job as a pharmacy tech there or does a clerkship there.

OK, not to be a jerk, but you aren't making any sense. Why would your friend worry about working in a place where she shoplifted but was never caught. Unless she also has Turets and compulsively blurts out "I ripped you off several years ago," there shouldn't be a problem.

If she turned her life around and managed to get into pharmacy school (which sounds fishy) she should be bright enough to know this.

 

[MR. C]

she could cook meth and be a contract killer, but if she has never been convicted of anything how will the pharmacy school know?

 

[Da Alchemist]

by the way a person will never change unless he/she gets caught.

 

[The Red X]

It always amazes me how OPs like this get more responses than your average serious pharmacy post gets, but...

I think that her friend's name is ZOEDOTDOTDOT