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[pip00]

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I have these books, and i wonder how appropriate they are for the dat science sections? That is bio,genchem, orgchem. I dont mind if they cover more material than DAT, but if they're missing some sections, i'd like to know...

I.e. i heard that DAT bio contains plant classificatoins, what else does it have that mcat wouldnt have? What about the topics that are covered on both exams, such as cardiovascular,nervous,digestive systems, and in orgchem sections like carbonyls,stereochemistry,etc- is it a good idea to use EK for those sections? I figure i'll use Kaplan DAT in the end anyway, to review(im taking the test next may), but i hope i wont be meeting too much new material at the last minute...

Also, im using the general subject review books now. But there are also books like 1001questions in bio,etc. Are those questions similar to the real DAT or they're in completely different style?
thanks

 

[mochafreak]

I have these books, and i wonder how appropriate they are for the dat science sections? That is bio,genchem, orgchem. I dont mind if they cover more material than DAT, but if they're missing some sections, i'd like to know...

I.e. i heard that DAT bio contains plant classificatoins, what else does it have that mcat wouldnt have? What about the topics that are covered on both exams, such as cardiovascular,nervous,digestive systems, and in orgchem sections like carbonyls,stereochemistry,etc- is it a good idea to use EK for those sections? I figure i'll use Kaplan DAT in the end anyway, to review(im taking the test next may), but i hope i wont be meeting too much new material at the last minute...

Also, im using the general subject review books now. But there are also books like 1001questions in bio,etc. Are those questions similar to the real DAT or they're in completely different style?
thanks

I used the EK books. The bio book is great if you're weak in microbio, genetics, or physiology. It goes into good detail and gives you a great understanding and you should be able to answer the more specific questions on the DAT after using it. It doesn't cover plants, ecology, animal behavior,etc. which are all covered on the DAT. I think Schaum's is best for those. You certainly need to get Kaplan, it is all you need for chem and ochem. For bio supplement it with EK and Schaum's. EK ochem book is good and the 1001 questions book is good if you need extra practice. Don't waste your time with their chem books...way too much detail and too hard for the DAT.

 

[pip00]

I used the EK books. The bio book is great if you're weak in microbio, genetics, or physiology. It goes into good detail and gives you a great understanding and you should be able to answer the more specific questions on the DAT after using it. It doesn't cover plants, ecology, animal behavior,etc. which are all covered on the DAT. I think Schaum's is best for those. You certainly need to get Kaplan, it is all you need for chem and ochem. For bio supplement it with EK and Schaum's. EK ochem book is good and the 1001 questions book is good if you need extra practice. Don't waste your time with their chem books...way too much detail and too hard for the DAT.

thanks a lot! i wonder if i should just read ecology, animal behavior, and plants from a textbook like campbell, then i suppose kaplan or topscore would have sample questions on those topics?

i believe i already have orgchem covered very well. but in gen chem im a complete 0, and im afraid that EK or Kaplan are not good for learning the concepts, but only for reviewing them. Hence i thought in gen chem i would need some light version of a textbook, like shaum's or barron's? What is encouraging is that 1001 questions in EK is similar to DAT.

 

[mochafreak]

thanks a lot! i wonder if i should just read ecology, animal behavior, and plants from a textbook like campbell, then i suppose kaplan or topscore would have sample questions on those topics?

i believe i already have orgchem covered very well. but in gen chem im a complete 0, and im afraid that EK or Kaplan are not good for learning the concepts, but only for reviewing them. Hence i thought in gen chem i would need some light version of a textbook, like shaum's or barron's? What is encouraging is that 1001 questions in EK is similar to DAT.

I guess that something like Schaum's might be good for chem. I don't know. But, the chem is quite easy and if you understand what is covered in Kaplan's you should be fine. As far as the EK 1001 questions being similar to the DAT, I didn't mean to give you that impression. The only 1001 questions book I'd recommend using is the ochem (some of those questions are similar)...but, it sounds like you don't need to. The bio book really hammers certain specific details into your head, which you may or may not have 1 or 2 questions on the DAT about. But, the questions on the dat will be presented in a far more straightforward way. I think it was a waste of time for the dat, the chem was definitely a waste of time.

 

[dat_student]

I guess that something like Schaum's might be good for chem. I don't know. But, the chem is quite easy and if you understand what is covered in Kaplan's you should be fine. As far as the EK 1001 questions being similar to the DAT, I didn't mean to give you that impression. The only 1001 questions book I'd recommend using is the ochem (some of those questions are similar)...but, it sounds like you don't need to. The bio book really hammers certain specific details into your head, which you may or may not have 1 or 2 questions on the DAT about. But, the questions on the dat will be presented in a far more straightforward way. I think it was a waste of time for the dat, the chem was definitely a waste of time.

Is the real DAT very similar to the ADA sample test? If it is I'll be extremely happy because I didn't miss a single O'Chem and G'Chem question.

bb in 8-9 hrs

 

[Comet208]

Is the real DAT very similar to the ADA sample test? If it is I'll be extremely happy because I didn't miss a single O'Chem and G'Chem question.

no wonder why i hate you so much 😀

 

[mochafreak]

Is the real DAT very similar to the ADA sample test? If it is I'll be extremely happy because I didn't miss a single O'Chem and G'Chem question.

bb in 8-9 hrs

I have no idea, because I didn't take the sample. It really is pretty simple if you know your stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if you get perfect scores on chem and ochem. 😉

 

[DinoDentist]

I have no idea, because I didn't take the sample. It really is pretty simple if you know your stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if you get perfect scores on chem and ochem. 😉

The ADA sample test is much easier, but still good practice inmy opinion.

 

[pip00]

Hey, if you practiced with EK, how did you find the 30-minute lecture questions? What were you scores on various lectures and the scores on the real thing? I so far only tried it with lecture 1 of bio and got 3 questions wrong out of 21. I dont want to get any questions wrong on the dat science sections. EK questions are also straightforward from what i see, but if you dont know the material then you're easily tricked. For example one question i got wrong was where the correct answer was that an Enzyme increases both fwd and reverse rxns... and another where it said that glycolysis is an oxidation process, while i picked the choice "lysis". I am sure that if dat covers either enzymes or glycolysis, it would very well ask those questions, or things like "how many atp's does fermentation produce"-you may say 0 if you think fermentation is different from glycolysis, just like citric acid cycle, but in fact fermentation is part of glycolysis by defn.

 

[mochafreak]

Hey, if you practiced with EK, how did you find the 30-minute lecture questions? What were you scores on various lectures and the scores on the real thing? I so far only tried it with lecture 1 of bio and got 3 questions wrong out of 21. I dont want to get any questions wrong on the dat science sections. EK questions are also straightforward from what i see, but if you dont know the material then you're easily tricked. For example one question i got wrong was where the correct answer was that an Enzyme increases both fwd and reverse rxns... and another where it said that glycolysis is an oxidation process, while i picked the choice "lysis". I am sure that if dat covers either enzymes or glycolysis, it would very well ask those questions, or things like "how many atp's does fermentation produce"-you may say 0 if you think fermentation is different from glycolysis, just like citric acid cycle, but in fact fermentation is part of glycolysis by defn.

I did the questions after the sections, but I didn't do the 30-minute tests. I think I finally realized that it didn't matter. You may think the EK questions are straightforward, and some of them are, but the DAT is really cut and dry. If you're only getting three wrong out of 21 then I'd say you're set for the DAT on that subject matter. Just make sure you can answer general questions...most of the dat bio is general questions. Personally, I have more of a problem answering those, because it's easier to overthink them.