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What would be the most stupid thing a medical student could do to get him/herself expelled from school? Plagiarism? Patient complaints?

 

[lattimer13]

cold clocking a professor during a lecture that the dean is attending.

 

[SaltySqueegee]

cold clocking a professor during a lecture that the dean is attending.

Damn, that would be a sight to see. I might actually die a more well-rounded person if I were to witness such an event. 👍

 

[nuclearrabbit77]

What would be the most stupid thing a medical student could do to get him/herself expelled from school? Plagiarism? Patient complaints?

there was a guy who went to a clinical training session while drunk (it was the DRE that day). supposedly he was on academic probation as well. thats the only one i personally know of.

 

[ericdamiansean]

cold clocking a professor during a lecture that the dean is attending.

what does cold clocking mean?

 

[Ceez]

what does cold clocking mean?

that's when you look at your watch repeatedly during an especially boring lecture.

 

[ericdamiansean]

plagiarism gets you suspended
perhaps copying during exams..but if you were doing OK, you'll probably get suspended as well..
and of course..the fact that's a main factor is, how well connected are you (your parents)

 

[::Seabass::]

cold clocking a professor during a lecture that the dean is attending.

or even better, when the dean is the one lecturing

 

[8744]

What would be the most stupid thing a medical student could do to get him/herself expelled from school? Plagiarism? Patient complaints?

Saying to a patient during a pelvic exam, "You're hot! What are you doing this Friday?"

 

[SaltySqueegee]

Saying to a patient during a pelvic exam, "You're hot! What are you doing this Friday?"

No, that is more likely to get you arrested than expelled.

 

[Heal&Teach]

that's when you look at your watch repeatedly during an especially boring lecture...

...and as a result, you get frustrated, go postal, and sucker punch your lecturer.

 

[Discobolus]

Saying to a patient during a pelvic exam, "You're hot! What are you doing this Friday?"

Maybe that is why the standardized patient that taught me breast and pelvic exams kept on correcting me to say "everything looks normal" instead of "everything looks really good" followed by a thumbs up! 😀 😀 😀

 

[traumamonkey]

i heard of a case where a guy was expelled for attempted murder (i think it was even a fellow student, but i can't remember).

oh yeah, i think the arrest didn't help his case either.
just glad he's not a doc now!

 

[SaltySqueegee]

Maybe that is why the standardized patient that taught me breast and pelvic exams kept on correcting me to say "everything looks normal" instead of "everything looks really good" followed by a thumbs up! 😀 😀 😀

Flip that around for the guys for the prostate exam...

"... everything looks really good..." 😱

 

[Gleevec]

i heard of a case where a guy was expelled for attempted murder (i think it was even a fellow student, but i can't remember).

oh yeah, i think the arrest didn't help his case either.
just glad he's not a doc now!

Holy crap 😱

Looks like some gunners will do ANYTHING to eliminate the competition.

 

[St. James]

i heard of a case where a guy was expelled for attempted murder (i think it was even a fellow student, but i can't remember).

oh yeah, i think the arrest didn't help his case either.
just glad he's not a doc now!

i can't find the thread, but a while ago someone posted about a graduating student or intern hiding out in a parking lot at Vandy waiting to attack the program director or something. anyone remember this??

 

[Twiki]

This did not happen at my school, I only heard about it second hand from someone who went to school with this guy:

Some male medical student, while performing a breast exam on a patient in OB/GYN clinic, yanked the patient's nipple, and then said "BOING!" as he released it.

According to the person I heard this from, the guy had already gotten in trouble for other stuff, and was treading on pretty thin ice at that point, so it wound up being the "last straw".

 

[Amy]

Some male medical student, while performing a breast exam on a patient in OB/GYN clinic, yanked the patient's nipple, and then said "BOING!" as he released it.

That is horrifying! 😱

 

[QuantumX]

A student I know had an affair with a patient on the surgical ward. In for cholecystectomy, I think...

 

[kaos]

Some male medical student, while performing a breast exam on a patient in OB/GYN clinic, yanked the patient's nipple, and then said "BOING!" as he released it.

OMG! wtf?? 😱

 

[kinetic]

A student I know had an affair with a patient on the surgical ward. In for cholecystectomy, I think...

These stories are starting to sound like urban legends now. I mean, the average length of stay for a simple elective cholecystectomy is a few days. That means, you have to spy out some hot chick and get into her gown and start banging around pretty much as soon as she is admitted. Plus, you have to maneuver around the actual sugery itself. Come on now.

 

[SaltySqueegee]

These stories are starting to sound like urban legends now. I mean, the average length of stay for a simple elective cholecystectomy is a few days. That means, you have to spy out some hot chick and get into her gown and start banging around pretty much as soon as she is admitted. Plus, you have to maneuver around the actual sugery itself. Come on now.

Sounds like you've given some thought to this... 😉 😀

 

[kinetic]

Sounds like you've given some thought to this... 😉 😀

*quickly rolls up plans when he hears SaltySqueegee walk in*

What? Given thought to what? I'm just sitting here reading! Yeah! Now get lost!

 

[cache20033]

a fourth year student got expelled two weeks ago because he started threatening his attending and some administrators when he found out he flunked his psychiatry rotation....AGAIN! he started threatening everyone saying he was going to put poison on the brownies and appetizers the school gives out on certain occasions for the students during seminars......the school actually sent emails to all the students in the med school warning them about him and put up flyers around the school regarding the situation......don't believe me, ask moops who goes to the school!

 

[lattimer13]

wow...what a psycho! also, what an expensive waste of 4 years of your life.

 

[IOE]

in my school....it takes failing 3 units during any year...and u're automatically out!

 

[ItsGavinC]

What would be the most stupid thing a medical student could do to get him/herself expelled from school? Plagiarism? Patient complaints?

One of my classmates jokingly sent an IM to a girl in our class saying "You dirty Mexican". The girl WAS a friend, but took issue with the statement. The classmate is no longer a member of our class and was expelled from dental school.

 

[babinski bob]

One of my classmates jokingly sent an IM to a girl in our class saying "You dirty Mexican". The girl WAS a friend, but took issue with the statement. The classmate is no longer a member of our class and was expelled from dental school.

This is pretty lame of the administration... Obviously they must've not been close enough friends... Either way... lame on the administration and student's part (the one w/ the dirty mouth, that is).

 

[hanselthemedic]

It doesn't go over very well if med students take two cadavers, dress them up, put them on a float and run it through a parade. It's even worse when family members recognize the deceased and report it. This supposedly happened quite a few years ago. Needless to say, the two students were immediately expelled.

 

[Adcadet]

It doesn't go over very well if med students take two cadavers, dress them up, put them on a float and run it through a parade. It's even worse when family members recognize the deceased and report it. This supposedly happened quite a few years ago. Needless to say, the two students were immediately expelled.

I'm just guessing they did this near the beginning of the term. Otherwise I'm guessing the family would not have recognized them.

 

[Adcadet]

not a med student, but still scarry. This was told to be by a guy I worked who was a senior pharmacy student, it was confirmed by a current pharm student, and elaborated on by pharm faculty member, so I'm pretty sure it actually happened.....

a pharmacy student lied on his application, apparently claiming to have multiple undergrad degrees, claiming military service, and awards for heroism. He went to some of their labs wearing a long white coat (out of place to begin with) which said "John Doe, M.D." and claimed he was an MD/PharmD student. He apparently told many many lies, but what did him in was when he turned to a fellow medical student and asked who some guy was sitting in front of a lecture hall - that "some guy" happened to be a senior dean in the medical school who everybody knows. The administration investigated, and found proof that he lied on his application and kicked him out. This was during his last year in the PharmD program. The guy still had the nerve to send a big apology email to the entire pharm school, asking to be let back in.

 

[8744]

What would be the most stupid thing a medical student could do to get him/herself expelled from school? Plagiarism? Patient complaints?

Lingering during the bimanual exam and when the patient asks you what you are doing saying, "Quiet lady, I'm looking for the dead fish."

Falling asleep during surgery and falling into the sterile field. (Well, maybe you won't get expelled but you'll never live it down.)

When your attending makes you scrub for five minutes scornfully asking him if he really believes in that as-yet unproven "germ theory" of disease.

Telling a schizophrenic patient that he needs to take his meds because, "I'm the Devil and I'll rot your guts if you don't."

 

[Zweihander]

Heard from a classmate about a guy (med school unknown) who went to Georgetown as an undergraduate. Apparently, the health office there wouldn't write him a rec for med school, so he forged one. He ended up getting accepted to a school, and attended for six years (he didn't do particularly well and had to repeat a year twice). Finally, he made it to "fourth" year and was almost ready to graduate.

Two weeks before his graduation, one of the Deans at his school coincidentally was talking to the Georgetown Health Careers office, and tangentially happened to ask about this student in a "He isn't very good -- how on earth could you recommend him to us?" way. The office checked and responded with a 😕 😕 😕 😕 !! "We never recommended him!"

The med school investigated and punted the dude a few days before graduation. Six years and a hell of a lot of money -- gone never to return.

 

[Medical123]

Heard from a classmate about a guy (med school unknown) who went to Georgetown as an undergraduate. Apparently, the health office there wouldn't write him a rec for med school, so he forged one. He ended up getting accepted to a school, and attended for six years (he didn't do particularly well and had to repeat a year twice). Finally, he made it to "fourth" year and was almost ready to graduate.

Two weeks before his graduation, one of the Deans at his school coincidentally was talking to the Georgetown Health Careers office, and tangentially happened to ask about this student in a "He isn't very good -- how on earth could you recommend him to us?" way. The office checked and responded with a 😕 😕 😕 😕 !! "We never recommended him!"

The med school investigated and punted the dude a few days before graduation. Six years and a hell of a lot of money -- gone never to return.

I can't imagine going through all that time and money to get kicked out of med school! I can't even imagine doing what this guy did, but I think that the medical school was at fault for NOT checking up on this guy's recommendations to begin with. OUCH!!!

 

[Zweihander]

I can't imagine going through all that time and money to get kicked out of med school! I can't even imagine doing what this guy did, but I think that the medical school was at fault for NOT checking up on this guy's recommendations to begin with. OUCH!!!

Didja see in the news about that slob in England who got canned in his last year of (I think) college for plagiarism? He'd apparently been plagiarising extensively all four years, and now he's suing the school for not busting him earlier.

 

[Gleevec]

a fourth year student got expelled two weeks ago because he started threatening his attending and some administrators when he found out he flunked his psychiatry rotation....AGAIN! he started threatening everyone saying he was going to put poison on the brownies and appetizers the school gives out on certain occasions for the students during seminars......the school actually sent emails to all the students in the med school warning them about him and put up flyers around the school regarding the situation......don't believe me, ask moops who goes to the school!

Are ya sure that wasn't one of the psychiatric patients dressing up as a medical student? 😱

 

[Gleevec]

One of my classmates jokingly sent an IM to a girl in our class saying "You dirty Mexican". The girl WAS a friend, but took issue with the statement. The classmate is no longer a member of our class and was expelled from dental school.

That's bullcrap. I could understand how a threatening message would make an administration want to kick out a student, but for saying something STUPID.

SDN is filled with much more racist crap than what your classmate said, and it doesnt even get a second glance. If anything, it seems like the girl was trying to find an excuse to screw over a classmate. I dont know if Im old fashioned, but if someone says something that pisses me off, I dont go crying to my mommy (or Dean), I take it up with the person. That's really pathetic behavior on the part of that girl.

 

[MoosePilot]

That's bullcrap. I could understand how a threatening message would make an administration want to kick out a student, but for saying something STUPID.

SDN is filled with much more racist crap than what your classmate said, and it doesnt even get a second glance. If anything, it seems like the girl was trying to find an excuse to screw over a classmate. I dont know if Im old fashioned, but if someone says something that pisses me off, I dont go crying to my mommy (or Dean), I take it up with the person. That's really pathetic behavior on the part of that girl.

I don't agree. I'm not one for political correctness, but that example is far from borderline. Context might make a difference. I think she should go to the student first, but if she didn't get a good response then going to the administration is reasonable.

SDN is largely anonymous. That makes a big difference.

 

[leorl]

A guy in one of the upper years took a prescription pad and prescribed himself morphine. That got him outta school in a jiffy.

 

[Gleevec]

I don't agree. I'm not one for political correctness, but that example is far from borderline. Context might make a difference. I think she should go to the student first, but if she didn't get a good response then going to the administration is reasonable.

SDN is largely anonymous. That makes a big difference.

I think context does make a difference, ie if she felt threatened or something of that nature, but apparently they were "FRIENDS" before. Neither of us know if she went to discuss it directly, but if it was one incident then I dont see how it could result in explusion.

I mean, a LOT WORSE stuff gets said on SDN, and the worst repurcussion on SDN is trivial compared to what happened to that guy. Anonymity is no excuse. Take a look at an example of what is allowed to be said, while words such as "bitch" are censored (of course, Id imagine if he had called that girl a "bitch" he wouldnt be expelled"):

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=126287&page=1&highlight=trail+tears

"Bah, send 'em back to the reservations! TRAIL OF TEARS!! Oh wait, not THAT type of indian, "the dot, not the feather." Well, if you're worried, I doubt this is a sepoy uprising.. what you gotta do is bring in the British, that'll solve the Indian problem. :-D"

Anonymity isnt an excuse, and I dont mean to pick on TTSD, but I imagine that calling something a "dirty" whatever is less damning than referring to the systematic and premeditated slaughter of scores of Native Americans.

Anyway, I guess without more facts, none of us can know. It just seems a bit extreme that one racial slur (and yes, I agree it is a bad one) could get someone expelled. I think people have said a lot worse things, its just the recipient realized that its not worth ruining someone's life over.

 

[Trisomy13]

What would be the most stupid thing a medical student could do to get him/herself expelled from school? Plagiarism? Patient complaints?

cold cadaver lovin' on a lonely night in the gross lab.



i imagine that would get you expelled. (key word here is "imagine")

 

[quasimodo]

vhv

 

[lattimer13]

cold cadaver lovin' on a lonely night in the gross lab.



i imagine that would get you expelled. (key word here is "imagine")

probably committed too.

 

[Pathos]

I'm sure I could conjure up many things that could get one expelled. I've always thought of putting up two half dissected cadavers in the men's bathroom down the hall w/ empty beer bottles everywhere, to make it look like they got stone dead drunk, maybe put one of em hurlin' in the pot. Don't think the dean would see the humor in it.

What happened at my med school was some ******* 1st year got busted by the DEA for selling Steroids at the local health club. They go to search his house and they find buckets in his fridge w/ human brains. Can't imagine what you would do w/ a brain seeping of formaldehyde. At any rate the administration "Let him go." I would bet he would be trying to sell them, but maybe making that rare casserole.

P.S. I see a lot of angry incidents on here about pissy students and I know a few. Don't make these people mad or get them expelled, they might pull a columbine, its only a matter of time before it happens at a med school. Gawd knows the tensions are high enough. 😴

 

[16846]

I'm sure I could conjure up many things that could get one expelled. I've always thought of putting up two half dissected cadavers in the men's bathroom down the hall w/ empty beer bottles everywhere, to make it look like they got stone dead drunk, maybe put one of em hurlin' in the pot. Don't think the dean would see the humor in it.

What happened at my med school was some ******* 1st year got busted by the DEA for selling Steroids at the local health club. They go to search his house and they find buckets in his fridge w/ human brains. Can't imagine what you would do w/ a brain seeping of formaldehyde. At any rate the administration "Let him go." I would bet he would be trying to sell them, but maybe making that rare casserole.

P.S. I see a lot of angry incidents on here about pissy students and I know a few. Don't make these people mad or get them expelled, they might pull a columbine, its only a matter of time before it happens at a med school. Gawd knows the tensions are high enough. 😴

Good point...

 

[punjabiMD]

a 4th year got expelled because he copied the discussion section for his patient's write-up straight out of Harrison's.

What a waste.

 

[SaltySqueegee]

a 4th year got expelled because he copied the discussion section for his patient's write-up straight out of Harrison's.

What a waste.

Verbal warning or a threat of having to repeat the 4th year with out-of-state tuition would have been sufficient, but expulsion for a discussion write-up is a little overboard in my mind.

I suppose you have to make an example of these things sometimes.

 

[punjabiMD]

Verbal warning or a threat of having to repeat the 4th year with out-of-state tuition would have been sufficient, but expulsion for a discussion write-up is a little overboard in my mind.

I suppose you have to make an example of these things sometimes.

I think the dude was already on academic probation; he had failed his IM clerkship and was re-taking it.

 

[8744]

a 4th year got expelled because he copied the discussion section for his patient's write-up straight out of Harrison's.

What a waste.

I don't understand what the offense was here. The patient write-up is not a peer-reviewed paper, a dissertation, or anything like that. If the information from Harrison's describes the patient and clarifies the diagnosis for anybody reading the case-summary what's the problem?

 

[Kosmo]

Some male medical student, while performing a breast exam on a patient in OB/GYN clinic, yanked the patient's nipple, and then said "BOING!" as he released it.

Frankly I couldn't help but chuckle at this; it sounds suspiciously like an urban legend but also reminds you that there are some people who cannot be helped by those 'professionalism' courses. Unfortunately, those are the people such courses are aimed at.