FAFSA - Savings & Checking

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This is the first time I have filled out the FAFSA and I see that it asks how much money I have in my savings/checking account. Would it be to my advantage to empty out my savings ($14,000) before applying for federal aid (emptying=buying the new laptop I need, a TV, some furnature, and buying tickets for my summer trip)? I'm just worried that if a school sees my savings, they will tell me to use it all for tuition.

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bbpiano1 said:
This is the first time I have filled out the FAFSA and I see that it asks how much money I have in my savings/checking account. Would it be to my advantage to empty out my savings ($14,000) before applying for federal aid (emptying=buying the new laptop I need, a TV, some furnature, and buying tickets for my summer trip)? I'm just worried that if a school sees my savings, they will tell me to use it all for tuition.

Is the $14K all in one low interest savings account? If so, I'd say do it! Unless it's there for a personal reason/obligation, I don't think it's smart money to "invest" all your money in a low interest savings account.

But if by savings you mean you have some money in savings, some in an IRA, and some in oh I don't know, gold, I wouldn't worry about it.


When I entered undergrad an accountant (and family friend) told me to clear out my savings and to invest or buy those things I'd need and/or want. He also told my dad to remove a sizable chunk of money from his low interest savings account. So he cleared out his savings and put it towards the principal on his house. And so my EFC went way down.
 
Hey I was worried about this too, I currently have a few thousand in checking and savings, as I am from New Orleans and lost everything so I am saving for deposits and moving expenses and funiture etc when I move to medschool, is a few thousand going to hurt me?? I mean they have to take into account that you have to move across the country and get an apartment right?
 
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Just a curious thought because I have always been honest on the subject. And the fact that I always have less than $100 in my accounts because of the CC debt I'm always paying off.

But what prevents people from lying about the money they have in savings and checking? I wouldn't think that FAFSA would have the opportunity or ability to veryify what money an applicant actually does have in savings like the IRS would be able to do. Has anybody ever heard of having to submit banking records to verify what they're claiming is true? 😕 I know there are some pretty stiff penalties (fees, jail time, loss of all financial aid) if somebody is caught lying but do they ever check? I would think this would be a serious threat with all the people that submit FAFSA applications from undergrads to med students, not all of whom are ethically sound.
 
Ok...I don't think it really effects it that much.

Your total amount of aid available :

Total Cost of Attendance
(minus)
Expected Family Contribution (EFC)
And some other crap.

I have roughly $20k in checking and savings, and roughly $60k in investments for my education.

And my EFC is less than 6k. So I'm eligible for roughly 30k a year...more than I'll need.
 
My EFC did not change when I had zero in the bank and then had to modify it to reflect a very large influx of cash. It had no impact. I wouldn't worry about it. If there's any impact, it's very very small.
 
Jbienven said:
Ok...I don't think it really effects it that much.

Your total amount of aid available :

Total Cost of Attendance
(minus)
Expected Family Contribution (EFC)
And some other crap.

I have roughly $20k in checking and savings, and roughly $60k in investments for my education.

And my EFC is less than 6k. So I'm eligible for roughly 30k a year...more than I'll need.
How is your EFC so low? Mine was estimated at 20K...I don't understand how they calculate that number. My parent's don't even make a whole lot of money (not poor, but not rich either). Do you guys think that because I am married they assume my spouse will be working? I can't imagine how else they arrive at that number, because we are both students now with only part time jobs.
 
SuzieQ3417 said:
How is your EFC so low? Mine was estimated at 20K...I don't understand how they calculate that number. My parent's don't even make a whole lot of money (not poor, but not rich either). Do you guys think that because I am married they assume my spouse will be working? I can't imagine how else they arrive at that number, because we are both students now with only part time jobs.

I'm assuming it may have something to do with that. I am single, didn't list any parental information, and am going to be a full time student = NO INCOME.
 
SuzieQ3417 said:
How is your EFC so low? Mine was estimated at 20K...I don't understand how they calculate that number. My parent's don't even make a whole lot of money (not poor, but not rich either). Do you guys think that because I am married they assume my spouse will be working? I can't imagine how else they arrive at that number, because we are both students now with only part time jobs.


For undergrad, I think the EFC is higher because they make you fill out the parental information. For grad school, parental information is irrelevant and you skip over those questions. Maybe that's why your EFC is 20K now...hopefully, it will decrease when you fill out the FAFSA this year for med schools.
 
bbpiano1 said:
For undergrad, I think the EFC is higher because they make you fill out the parental information. For grad school, parental information is irrelevant and you skip over those questions. Maybe that's why your EFC is 20K now...hopefully, it will decrease when you fill out the FAFSA this year for med schools.
This was my EFC for 2006/2007. 🙁 I was told by some schools to fill out the parental information because they take it into consideration when allocating need-based aid. Darn my parents for saving so much for retirement! I'll never seem a dime of it. Oh well, these are the rules of the game.
 
buy $13,950 worth of traveller's cheques (or some non-traceable, negotiable instrument) and spend $50 to rent a safe deposit box...
 
bbpiano1 said:
This is the first time I have filled out the FAFSA and I see that it asks how much money I have in my savings/checking account. Would it be to my advantage to empty out my savings ($14,000) before applying for federal aid (emptying=buying the new laptop I need, a TV, some furnature, and buying tickets for my summer trip)? I'm just worried that if a school sees my savings, they will tell me to use it all for tuition.

Roth IRA, some stock(s) you believe in, aggressive mutal funds

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
 
SuzieQ3417 said:
This was my EFC for 2006/2007. 🙁 I was told by some schools to fill out the parental information because they take it into consideration when allocating need-based aid. Darn my parents for saving so much for retirement! I'll never seem a dime of it. Oh well, these are the rules of the game.

okay, some clarifications. Applying to graduate school, the EFC on your FAFSA has NOTHING to do with your parent earnings/savings etc. Those of us with high EFC's are those of us with current cash flow from a job (many non-trads applying from the work-force have EFC far above what they can actually contribute). This EFC will nose dive next year when you are a full time student.

In response to the OP, yes, get rid of that money! Just because having or not having it may not have a huge impact on your FAFSA EFC, this does not mean it will not impact your financial aid package.

I have about 4k in my bank account in savings and this is all the money I have in the world (no trust funds hidden away, no rich grandparents holding money for me, not a cent in investments). This money is the little I have put away from my job over the last two years and I was planning on spending the vast majority of it on some traveling this summer before I stop having summers. I reported it on my FAFSA and Need Access forms (necessary for some schools, not all- don't freak out)

Just a few weeks ago I had a meeting with the director of financial aid at a medical school I have been accepted to and she told me that I would be expected to cough up a good chunck of those savings as part of my first year financial aid package. She even went as far as advising me to use it towards getting rid of some of my undergraduate debt. She said that if I did this she would consider it a legitimate expense and remove the money from what I had reported, thus reducing the amount I would be expected to contribute. She also said that purchasing a computer was a legitimate expense. She said that spending the money on a nice vacation would be a personal choice and not be considered an okay use of that money and that if I did they would not be able to take money away from what I had previously reported.
 
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WHAT IF....
you are the co-owner to all your parents accounts. It's all under my dad's SS #, so I don't pay taxes or report it, etc. I'm a co-owner, which means I can withdraw money at any time. Am I supposed to report this to FAFSA, even though it's not my money????
 
blazenmadison said:
WHAT IF....
you are the co-owner to all your parents accounts. It's all under my dad's SS #, so I don't pay taxes or report it, etc. I'm a co-owner, which means I can withdraw money at any time. Am I supposed to report this to FAFSA, even though it's not my money????


I can't see how your social wouldn't be on it...but...if it doesn't "belong" to you in paper, and you didn't report it...it probably legally isn't your money.
 
abcehmu said:
okay, some clarifications. Applying to graduate school, the EFC on your FAFSA has NOTHING to do with your parent earnings/savings etc. Those of us with high EFC's are those of us with current cash flow from a job (many non-trads applying from the work-force have EFC far above what they can actually contribute). This EFC will nose dive next year when you are a full time student.

Are you sure about this? The estimated family contribution simply shifts sources from traditional to non-traditional student. A traditional student whose parents make 1million a year will get less than a student whose parents make 40k a year.
 
LabMonster said:
Are you sure about this? The estimated family contribution simply shifts sources from traditional to non-traditional student. A traditional student whose parents make 1million a year will get less than a student whose parents make 40k a year.


Not if you don't report their earnings...which you ARE NOT required to do.
 
The EFC calculated by FAFSA for us future med students does NOT take into account our parents' info. Even if you include it. The individual schools will use parental info to calculate your EFC for their packages.
 
LabMonster said:
Are you sure about this? The estimated family contribution simply shifts sources from traditional to non-traditional student. A traditional student whose parents make 1million a year will get less than a student whose parents make 40k a year.

Parent info on FAFSA has NO impact on your EFC if you're going to be a graduate level student for the upcoming school year. Only individual schools will even look at parental info.

Case in point- I have a little sister still in undergrad. FAFSA is done for both of us, with nearly identical info except I'll be in med school next year.

EFC for me is 0. EFC for her is something like 40K

And yes, a traditional student whose parents make 1 million a year will get less than a student whose parents make 40K a year b/c individual schools will award different aid. Both of these students would be equally eligible for federal aid.
 
LabMonster said:
Are you sure about this? The estimated family contribution simply shifts sources from traditional to non-traditional student. A traditional student whose parents make 1million a year will get less than a student whose parents make 40k a year.

Yes, as far as the FAFSA EFC is concerned, what the parents make has no bearing on the medical student EFC. The individual schools however, will take this very much into consideration. Don't get hung up on your FAFSA EFC!
 
abcehmu said:
okay, some clarifications. Applying to graduate school, the EFC on your FAFSA has NOTHING to do with your parent earnings/savings etc. Those of us with high EFC's are those of us with current cash flow from a job (many non-trads applying from the work-force have EFC far above what they can actually contribute). This EFC will nose dive next year when you are a full time student.

In response to the OP, yes, get rid of that money! Just because having or not having it may not have a huge impact on your FAFSA EFC, this does not mean it will not impact your financial aid package.

I have about 4k in my bank account in savings and this is all the money I have in the world (no trust funds hidden away, no rich grandparents holding money for me, not a cent in investments). This money is the little I have put away from my job over the last two years and I was planning on spending the vast majority of it on some traveling this summer before I stop having summers. I reported it on my FAFSA and Need Access forms (necessary for some schools, not all- don't freak out)

Just a few weeks ago I had a meeting with the director of financial aid at a medical school I have been accepted to and she told me that I would be expected to cough up a good chunck of those savings as part of my first year financial aid package. She even went as far as advising me to use it towards getting rid of some of my undergraduate debt. She said that if I did this she would consider it a legitimate expense and remove the money from what I had reported, thus reducing the amount I would be expected to contribute. She also said that purchasing a computer was a legitimate expense. She said that spending the money on a nice vacation would be a personal choice and not be considered an okay use of that money and that if I did they would not be able to take money away from what I had previously reported.

I'm on the same situation as you.

Thanks to your advice (and experience) I will not report my savings (a couple of thousand) on my Needaccess because I also wanna go on vacation.

Best advice ever.
Thanks very much.
 
abcehmu said:
Yes, as far as the FAFSA EFC is concerned, what the parents make has no bearing on the medical student EFC. The individual schools however, will take this very much into consideration. Don't get hung up on your FAFSA EFC!

I'm non-trad, so the parent thing doesn't apply, but I'm concerned about the amount that I'll be offered. Just going to wait... 😎
 
NunoBR said:
I'm on the same situation as you.

Thanks to your advice (and experience) I will not report my savings (a couple of thousand) on my Needaccess because I also wanna go on vacation.

Best advice ever.
Thanks very much.


If you don't report a couple thousand, is there any way that the financial aid office can find out it?
 
I don't know what I did but I never even filled out savings/checking info on the FAFSA. Did I skip a section or something? 😕

I remember when I was in undergrad my mom would always tell me to report the amount that I would have when school started (since I would use my savings during the summer to live on). Well I have my wedding fund in my bank account right now, which will be long gone come fall...
 
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