Failed college course in high school

[ODea]

So when I was in high school I ended up getting into a vocational class taught by a community college. As a high schooler, I tended to goof off a lot and landed a 1.0 GPA. I was looking at my unofficial transcripts and I noticed it.

I have to pass this semester and the next with an A to even get a 2.5 GPA. I feel like that's going to affect me although I just need that 2.5 so I can transfer to a 4-year school. I know that vocational class won't transfer but will it affect my GPA at all I wasn't really determined in high school but this semester I do have a 98.88 right now and I learned how to actually keep my grades up and not slack.

The questions is how much will this affect my GPA once I transfer to a 4-year school? I'm sure I can easily maintain a high GPA but I trashed my GPA before I even started. I really want to go to a top school and most of them require a 3.7 or higher and I don't want this to set me back.

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[Catalystik]

So when I was in high school I ended up getting into a vocational class taught by a community college. As a high schooler, I tended to goof off a lot and landed a 1.0 GPA. I was looking at my unofficial transcripts and I noticed it.

I have to pass this semester and the next with an A to even get a 2.5 GPA. I feel like that's going to affect me although I just need that 2.5 so I can transfer to a 4-year school. I know that vocational class won't transfer but will it affect my GPA at all I wasn't really determined in high school but this semester I do have a 98.88 right now and I learned how to actually keep my grades up and not slack.

The questions is how much will this affect my GPA once I transfer to a 4-year school? I'm sure I can easily maintain a high GPA but I trashed my GPA before I even started. I really want to go to a top school and most of them require a 3.7 or higher and I don't want this to set me back.

If this is the wrong section sorry!

If the vocational class doesn't transfer with a grade to the new college/university, it won't affect your GPA at that second institution. But when you apply to med school, you are obliged to submit an original transcript from every college attended and it will be included in the calculation of your med school application GPAs.

That said, a D or F early in a college career won't hold you back from med school if you go on to show sustained excellence.

 

[ODea]

If the vocational class doesn't transfer with a grade to the new college/university, it won't affect your GPA at that second institution. But when you apply to med school, you are obliged to submit an original transcript from every college attended and it will be included in the calculation of your med school application GPAs.

That said, a D or F early in a college career won't hold you back from med school if you go on to show sustained excellence.

Alright that's not too bad I mean I get all A's now and you can easily tell a difference, I just don't want to get stuck with a low 3.5 or something when I apply to a med school.

 

[Catalystik]

Alright that's not too bad I mean I get all A's now and you can easily tell a difference, I just don't want to get stuck with a low 3.5 or something when I apply to a med school.

If necessary, you can take summer classes, heavier academic loads each term, or stay in college an extra year to beef up your GPA.

 

[ODea]

If necessary, you can take summer classes, heavier academic loads each term, or stay in college an extra year to beef up your GPA.

Yeah, I was thinking about taking an extra year to achieve the GPA I would like to have. Instead of a gap year, and also do summer courses.

 

[deleted480308]

You are capable of doing algebra....it’s not hard to tell how it impacts your gpa for any number of credits

 

[ciestar]

If it's only one course would anyone really find out if you "forgot" to include it (I wouldn't risk it but there have definitely been people who have just forgotten or chose not to remember and it never came up).

....seriously?

And yes. You get looked up in the National Student Clearinghouse. Deceit is never the answer.

 

[Spectar]

....seriously?

And yes. You get looked up in the National Student Clearinghouse. Deceit is never the answer.

Didn't even know this was a thing. Like I said, I personally wouldn't risk it. I let my GPA fall because of low High School college grades.

 

[ODea]

....seriously?

And yes. You get looked up in the National Student Clearinghouse. Deceit is never the answer.

Isn't that like a database where they have all college records that you have used financial aid?

Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[ciestar]

Isn't that like a database where they have all college records that you have used financial aid?

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Has nothing to do with financial aid. They provide enrollment verification to schools.

 

[Catalystik]

Yeah, I was thinking about taking an extra year to achieve the GPA I would like to have. Instead of a gap year, and also do summer courses.

Sounds good that you have pre-planned this approach.

 

[Catalystik]

Isn't that like a database where they have all college records that you have used financial aid?

Correct me if I'm wrong.

If you have ever enrolled in an institution of higher learning (including trade schools) using your name, high school, birthdate, and/or SS#, etc., you are in their database. StudentTracker | National Student Clearinghouse

 

[FlowRate]

(1.0*3+3.8*96)/99 = 3.72 (3 years of moderate course load)

(1.0*3+3.8*144)/147 = 3.74 (4 years of heavy course load)

So yeah, it'll affect your GPA, but it's not going to sink you if you do well otherwise. I don't think the extra year really adds much to improving your GPA.

 

[ODea]

(1.0*3+3.8*96)/99 = 3.72 (3 years of moderate course load)

(1.0*3+3.8*144)/147 = 3.74 (4 years of heavy course load)

So yeah, it'll affect your GPA, but it's not going to sink you if you do well otherwise. I don't think the extra year really adds much to improving your GPA.

I'm sure it won't help tremendously but I feel like a 5th year with a smaller workload could benefit me on an application. I can do some EC, research, and prepare myself for med school (Will be doing throughout my college years anyways) rather than a gap year of straight volunteer work and EC. I would give myself more time to prepare my application for schools.

It all depends on how I feel after my 4 years if I feel as if I'm good enough I won't don't do the extra year but just in-case I do have it planned out if I need to!

 

[21Rush12]

So when I was in high school I ended up getting into a vocational class taught by a community college. As a high schooler, I tended to goof off a lot and landed a 1.0 GPA. I was looking at my unofficial transcripts and I noticed it.

I have to pass this semester and the next with an A to even get a 2.5 GPA.

Exact same thing happened to me. It sucks to climb out of a GPA hole but it's just the way it is. If this is your only bad grade nobody will care, especially when they realize it is a high school class.

Don't worry about things like this that you can't change. Get good grades and show academic aptitude and you'll be fine.


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[ODea]

Exact same thing happened to me. It sucks to climb out of a GPA hole but it's just the way it is. If this is your only bad grade nobody will care, especially when they realize it is a high school class.

Don't worry about things like this that you can't change. Get good grades and show academic aptitude and you'll be fine.


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I was just worried because some schools that I want to get into having a minimum GPA before even applying and I feel like that would mess that up. I mean if I have really good grades I think they would have an exception?

 

[21Rush12]

I was just worried because some schools that I want to get into having a minimum GPA before even applying and I feel like that would mess that up. I mean if I have really good grades I think they would have an exception?

You have one D from a high school class. If you can't get your GPA above 3.3 it won't be because of that class.

Can you explain a little better what you're worried about? Is it medical schools with GPA minimums?


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[ODea]

You have one D from a high school class. If you can't get your GPA above 3.3 it won't be because of that class.

Can you explain a little better what you're worried about? Is it medical schools with GPA minimums?


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It's not a D it's a zero, and yes it's the med school.

 

[21Rush12]

Med schools having a GPA minimum is irrelevant. The "minimum GPA" is MUCH lower than the actual range of accepted applicants.

Also D or F is no different in your situation. It's minuscule compared to what lies ahead.

Get As in your classes and don't worry. One class will not sink you, especially one that was taken in high school.

Do some research about what the average matriculant GPA and MCAT scores are and focus on setting a goal for those. Get the right extracurricular activities, and enjoy undergrad.


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[astrostellar]

I had a good number of Fs from my first attempt at college. Climbing out of a GPA hole is completely do-able.

Use a GPA calculator and figure out what your cumulative GPA will be. GPA cutoffs are typically no higher than 3.25 and it sounds like you'll be well above that.

 

[ODea]

I had a good number of Fs from my first attempt at college. Climbing out of a GPA hole is completely do-able.

Use a GPA calculator and figure out what your cumulative GPA will be. GPA cutoffs are typically no higher than 3.25 and it sounds like you'll be well above that.

Thank you will it make any difference if I hold a 4.0 or close to at a university because I know my vocational won't transfer to the school but I know it'll still be there.

Also, would retaking the class impact anything? It's pretty much an easy A for the class I was just a dumb higher schooler and didn't bother to show up. I know the school would update that grade but would that update it for my overall grade when I turn it all my transcripts when needed?

I'm allowed to retake classes for free at my school if it was already paid for so I would just have to take time to do so would you think it's worth it?

 

[21Rush12]

No. Both grades are shown and averaged. F+A/2=C. You'd be going through a lot of trouble and the grade wouldn't disappear, just be averaged with another one. Med schools will see it anyway. Just let it go, it's in the past. No action is required.


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[BTC0821]

How much do med schools really consider this? My first year GPA was around a 2.5 and the following 4 years after have averaged a 3.9 but that still only brought me to a 3.5 which is below the median for most med schools

 

[FlowRate]

How much do med schools really consider this? My first year GPA was around a 2.5 and the following 4 years after have averaged a 3.9 but that still only brought me to a 3.5 which is below the median for most med schools

Varies by institution. Some places may screen you out due to a low average GPA, especially if your MCAT isn't great. 3.5 is high enough that, as long as your MCAT is strong, you shouldn't get auto-screened by most institutions. Other places may have a secretary who actually eyeballs all (not completely obviously screened out) applicants, who would note the strong performance and potentially boost your pre-interview score.

 

[deleted804295]

Stupid a-- college courses during highschool.

I feel like suing my highschool adviser every time I remember this BS class that gave me my first B on my college transcript.