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Ms Procrastinator said:
Precisely. The only reason I can think of as to why pippy was kill was because of what FTF posted. She was the only one who saw it (apart from me) and she died. She could have also been killed because she was pretty active, but I love a good conspiracy. As for dubz I don't understand why she was killed. From what I read from her yesterday she hadn't even caught up yet and she was planning to catch up today. Is no one planning to analyze these deaths? Does no one find it weird that they both died at the same time? Why the heck was no one around during lynch close yesterday?
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But Pippy told FTF to delete what he said because it's strategy? so i'm confused about that. and you stated earlier that what FTF stated wasn't certain and was just a tinfoil?
 
Ms Procrastinator said:
His deleted strategy was talking about looking into how your lynch disappeared.
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and he thought that was weird? the lynch started to disappear when he unlynched me after we discussed about the interpretations of the start posts (and those conversations also led me to village read him that I mentioned in D1). krasky unlynched me because she stated her initial vote was basically RNG to get it on there before switching over. and genny switched from me to pippy. that doesn't seem clear cut.
 
Day 2 Lynch Tally
genny (1) - Lawpy
Lawpy (1) - MsP
miz (1) - Coop

3/7
lynch close in ~26 hours
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Ms Procrastinator said:
Precisely. The only reason I can think of as to why pippy was kill was because of what FTF posted. She was the only one who saw it (apart from me) and she died. She could have also been killed because she was pretty active, but I love a good conspiracy. As for dubz I don't understand why she was killed. From what I read from her yesterday she hadn't even caught up yet and she was planning to catch up today. Is no one planning to analyze these deaths? Does no one find it weird that they both died at the same time? Why the heck was no one around during lynch close yesterday?
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Meh. I also saw it. I think a lot of people saw it.
 
nyanko said:
you said killing active players early is bad for village. if you're a wolf 'bad for village' is good for you. unless you're setting up the 'right conclusion wrong reason' thing lol
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it also makes the game rather boring tbh. i realize wolves don't care about what's bad for village since bad for village benefits them, but I'm facing with charges that I'm responsible for the kills because I'm paranoid, so I'm showing that's not the case.
 
Lawper said:
i'm not sure whether @kraskadva was tagged but tagging her anyways since interested to hear more from her.
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Been on call, just got home. Will read back through and post more once I feed my cat and get dinner.
mizchiefmanaged said:
I’ll I’ve gotten from her is crankiness that I was voting for her so maybe you’ll get more than I did lol
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Not cranky, just think it's either lazy or telling to only pick on the noob D1.
Fine with a RNG lynch vote (basically what we're all doing), but you keep reading on me based on nothing.
 
kraskadva said:
Been on call, just got home. Will read back through and post more once I feed my cat and get dinner.

Not cranky, just think it's either lazy or telling to only pick on the noob D1.
Fine with a RNG lynch vote (basically what we're all doing), but you keep reading on me based on nothing.
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Wasn’t picking on you. Was literally just asking for some more information. And you know you’re not a noob lol
 
Ms Procrastinator said:
I first voted for him because I hadn't seen him in a while and wanted to start a conversation. Hence the "Hi stranger" lynch. I left it there because, like I said, I didn't like the post he made and then redacted. I didn't see the post but I didn't like that it was redacted. It didn't seem like he was told by mods or someone (like pippy did) to edit his post.
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wait what are you referring to here?
 
Reading back through, IDK what to read people as...

everybody seems to want to gang up on lawpy, so his defensiveness is understandable
coop is much calmer now that there isn't the back and forth with FTF
miz and nyan want to point out the flaws in everybody's arguements, but doesn't seem to have any that are more sound
genny & MsP both still seem pretty neutral to me

edit: addition...

....all of which could go either way depending on personality, and I don't know everybody's styles
 
kraskadva said:
Reading back through, IDK what to read people as...

everybody seems to want to gang up on lawpy, so his defensiveness is understandable
coop is much calmer now that there isn't the back and forth with FTF
miz and nyan want to point out the flaws in everybody's arguements, but doesn't seem to have any that are more sound
genny & MsP both still seem pretty neutral to me

edit: addition...

....all of which could go either way depending on personality, and I don't know everybody's styles
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You’re confusing me. ALL I have done is asked for your opinions on things and that’s me poking holes in everyone’s arguments? I haven’t even been poking holes in yours until now but that hasn’t been what I’ve been doing at all.
 
Ok I see a lot being thrown around about why both dubz and pippy died but we don't know both were wolf kills. So make a differential list for why dubz was killed and a separate one for pippy. We don't know they're related and it seems like people are drumming up confusion where there doesn't have to be. Let's think of them separately and therefore the whole theory of killing off all the active people can be put aside for now until they're proven to be connected
 
kraskadva said:
Reading back through, IDK what to read people as...

everybody seems to want to gang up on lawpy, so his defensiveness is understandable
coop is much calmer now that there isn't the back and forth with FTF
miz and nyan want to point out the flaws in everybody's arguements, but doesn't seem to have any that are more sound
genny & MsP both still seem pretty neutral to me

edit: addition...

....all of which could go either way depending on personality, and I don't know everybody's styles
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So who are your top wolves?
 
kraskadva said:
Reading back through, IDK what to read people as...

everybody seems to want to gang up on lawpy, so his defensiveness is understandable
coop is much calmer now that there isn't the back and forth with FTF
miz and nyan want to point out the flaws in everybody's arguements, but doesn't seem to have any that are more sound
genny & MsP both still seem pretty neutral to me

edit: addition...

....all of which could go either way depending on personality, and I don't know everybody's styles
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Forget personality. Look at people's arguments, who stands out as logical and sound arguments? Who is clearly hunting wolves and who is throwing shade? Who is just making everything as confusing as ****ing possible to make everything difficult
 
Coopah said:
Forget personality. Look at people's arguments, who stands out as logical and sound arguments? Who is clearly hunting wolves and who is throwing shade? Who is just making everything as confusing as ****ing possible to make everything difficult
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That's just it though, I find calm logical arguments potentially just as suspicious. After all, wolves already know who's who and have the leisure to sit back and manipulate. Where as panic reactions (while they can of course be faked) are more common for villagers.
So you chilling out after FTF was out seems potentially suspicious to me. But that could also just be personality/not having a foil.

Also, ****-stirring is suspicious too, but it's also a pitchfork and torches form of panic, that doesn't necessarily make someone wolf. Again, personality dependant.

So... IDK... I'm thinking, and watching to see how more of this plays out.
 
genny said:
Guys I have to do ear surgery tomorrow and I'm not looking forward to it. It's just so bloody and I really like to keep my surgical field neat and tidy.
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What's the surgery?
 
kraskadva said:
That's just it though, I find calm logical arguments potentially just as suspicious. After all, wolves already know who's who and have the leisure to sit back and manipulate. Where as panic reactions (while they can of course be faked) are more common for villagers.
So you chilling out after FTF was out seems potentially suspicious to me. But that could also just be personality/not having a foil.

Also, ****-stirring is suspicious too, but it's also a pitchfork and torches form of panic, that doesn't necessarily make someone wolf. Again, personality dependant.

So... IDK... I'm thinking, and watching to see how more of this plays out.
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Hm yeah I don't like that much. Investigate don't just wait and see makes me think you're a wolf. **** I think everyone is a ****ing wolf right now but I'm most suspicious of lawp and Miz so technically that means you're off the hook rn
 
Coopah said:
Hm yeah I don't like that much. Investigate don't just wait and see makes me think you're a wolf. **** I think everyone is a ****ing wolf right now but I'm most suspicious of lawp and Miz so technically that means you're off the hook rn
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Noted, but I get to play this however I want, so :shrug:
 
genny said:
Pinna mass removal in an inconvenient location, very close to an artery and vein. Probably going to get squirted at some point. I should wear dark clothes.
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Dark clothes sound prudent
 
well since everyone here thinks i'm the wolf, feel free to lynch me. I stated what I have to say, but if everyone thinks i'm some paranoid guy who decided to kill Pippy and WZ early despite my arguments saying that's not the case, i'm not sure what to do.

so feel free to proceed with the lynch on me. probably a mistake in me playing since I anticipated that the moment I play, lynch votes will swing towards me immediately.
 
Lawper said:
well since everyone here thinks i'm the wolf, feel free to lynch me. I stated what I have to say, but if everyone thinks i'm some paranoid guy who decided to kill Pippy and WZ early despite my arguments saying that's not the case, i'm not sure what to do.

so feel free to proceed with the lynch on me. probably a mistake in me playing since I anticipated that the moment I play, lynch votes will swing towards me immediately.
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Why do you keep saying that? If everybody who's ever gotten lynched stopped playing there'd be no one playing the game. Look at me and barks.
 
Ms Procrastinator said:
Why do you keep saying that? If everybody who's ever gotten lynched stopped playing there'd be no one playing the game. Look at me and barks.
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I know but facing repeated lynch wagons on me over vague feels or trying hard to portray me as a villain while completely ignoring everything I say gets boring and makes me wonder why I bother playing.
 
People have already made up their minds and have convinced themselves so I think it benefits everyone here to move on with the lynch and discuss the other candidates based on my flip (and discuss where to look into if I flip village vs flip wolf).
 
Lawper said:
well since everyone here thinks i'm the wolf, feel free to lynch me. I stated what I have to say, but if everyone thinks i'm some paranoid guy who decided to kill Pippy and WZ early despite my arguments saying that's not the case, i'm not sure what to do.

so feel free to proceed with the lynch on me. probably a mistake in me playing since I anticipated that the moment I play, lynch votes will swing towards me immediately.
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First off I was listening and that's why I switched to Miz over you, it doesn't clear you but I mean it's something.

And I thought you were done with that defeatest attitude? Be helpful and hunt some wolves and people will see differently.

Also we can't not lunch you because you haven't played in a while. We look for wolves and if you look wolfy we'll lynch you regardless. So! Let's play
 
Coopah said:
First off I was listening and that's why I switched to Miz over you, it doesn't clear you but I mean it's something.

And I thought you were done with that defeatest attitude? Be helpful and hunt some wolves and people will see differently.

Also we can't not lunch you because you haven't played in a while. We look for wolves and if you look wolfy we'll lynch you regardless. So! Let's play
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I was (and still am) hunting wolves but people have made up their mind and think I'm the wolf while throwing whatever I say out the window. Then when I'm responding to posts, I get swamped with literally dozens of notifications with everyone quoting my responses at once and expecting my responses promptly.

It's well established that NKA leads to WIFOM but people are heavily relying on that and are implicating me as being a paranoid guy for killing active villagers. When I try to counter that because the argument is unfairly condemning me and assuming something I'm not, people aren't convinced and still persist on that based on their perceptions and assumptions on how I'd play as a wolf (which leads to the repeated and tired argument that I make that people generally can't read me well but oh well).

I'm ok with getting lynched as long as I'm seeing some actual reasons rather than facing with these implications based on WIFOM. And I even said before that since everyone thinks I'm a wolf (not lynching me but wolf reading me), lynching me is in fact the best course of action so that people can move on and discuss the alternatives based on how I flip.

I was a dead man walking before and this here is no different. Even if I survive this lynch or even lynch a wolf, I'm sure people will still view me harshly as a paranoid wolf and will pursue me again the next day, which can be dangerous if we're heading LYLO/MYLO soon.
 
So I'm ok with getting lynched. But that doesn't mean we can just stand here and do nothing much. Something to consider are:

If I flip village (which surprise: I am), who are the wolves?

If I flip wolf, who is my wolfmate?
 
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