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The democrats delayed the passing of the stimulus bill by a few days because they wanted to push their agenda...

Those darn democrats how dare they! The republicans certainly were not doing the exact same thing at all.

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Those darn democrats how dare they! The republicans certainly were not doing the exact same thing at all.
Lol, I get alerts on my phone and read bits and pieces only. I have no idea what the republicans included that the democrats didn't like, but those were the headlines I was reading. Things to the effect of "Nancy Pelosi says she's going to write her own bill," "No democrat showed up to vote" etc.
 
Not gonna lie. I would feel terrible for technicians. They do majority of the hard work.
 
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Lol, I get alerts on my phone and read bits and pieces only. I have no idea what the republicans included that the democrats didn't like, but those were the headlines I was reading. Things to the effect of "Nancy Pelosi says she's going to write her own bill," "No democrat showed up to vote" etc.

Yeah, that just means you get your news from right wing news sources. I get mine from more left wing news sources so I get headlines like “republicans delay passing stimulus bill to prevent abortion clinics...” or “republican stimulus bill favors big corporations; Democrats refuse to allow it”.
 
Yeah, that just means you get your news from right wing news sources. I get mine from more left wing news sources so I get headlines like “republicans delay passing stimulus bill to prevent abortion clinics...” or “republican stimulus bill favors big corporations; Democrats refuse to allow it”.
Dunno, NPR is a big one I subscribe to. I consider it to be fairly nonpartisan but never looked into it before.
 
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Not gonna lie. I would feel terrible for technicians. They do majority of the hard work.
Well, from the way I read it, at least hospital pharmacy technicians would qualify under the following section:
"(2) provides services in a licensed medical or care facility which is located in such a county."

Probably the bill would have to clarify the professions further unless he really wants to include landscapers, janitors and cafeteria staff (maybe amend it to "provides medical services"). Personally, I'm thinking this bill is unlikely to pass but there may be some other form of compensation for first responders and healthcare workers in the next stimulus package since there is talk on both sides for it.
 
The full text of the bill as it stands

Pretty bare bones and obviously can and will change if it does get passed. It says the limit is $50k of your income? Why are all the media outlets pushing this $150k number and where are they getting it from?

I assume if this passes it will just show up in our tax year 2020 refund when we get it early/mid next year. We're just excluding income during this period from your gross income which means it's an above the line deduction. I assume your employers would calculate this for you and adjust your W2 accordingly so I agree with the previous post that thought as such. They're not going to have you calculate your taxes during the period yourself, so on the W2 it likely will be.

My take: this could reduce your 2020 taxes significantly. I'd be contributing to your 401k Roth and IRA Roth only right now even if we don't know this thing will pass. You should likely already know how much you should be contributing to your traditional vs Roth (the ratio). If you don't know, see a financial advisor immediately or you will likely be paying way more taxes in retirement. Regardless of the correct ratio for you, you can easily invest more this year in your Roth and then make up for it by putting more into your traditional in the future instead to still achieve the same balance. That way, you maximize your tax benefits this year if this thing passes (you pay a lower tax rate on those contributed funds) and deduct your traditional contributions in subsequent years when your tax rate is higher). If this thing doesn't pass though, you risk paying a slightly higher tax rate of your roth contributions this year since you wont have traditional contributions to reduce your income. You'll be able to contribute more to your traditional accounts in future years to make up for it, but you wouldn't be reducing your marginal rate as effectively. For example, if you have $120k in income, reducing your income by $20k will reduce your tax rate. If you reduce your income again by another $20k you won't reduce your tax rate as much as the original $20k. So concentrating all your traditional contributions in fewer years doesn't reduce your tax rate by as much. I think it's worth the risk though since the tax savings are much greater if this thing passes than the minor tax losses if this thing doesn't pass. If your income varies from year to year, that is something to take into consideration here since it affects your tax rate (and when you want to be contributing to a traditional vs Roth).

50k over 4 months = 12.5k per month * 12 months = 150k/yr equivalent
 
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The democrats delayed the passing of the stimulus bill by a few days because they wanted to push their agenda and add things completely unrelated to the coronavirus to the bill as this bill was a "once in a lifetime opportunity" for them.

I could very easily see politics delaying or amending what the final version of this bill might look like.

i'm glad they delayed it. now it's paying for 6 months worth of student loan payments (plus interest) for anyone on IBR with fed loans.
 
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The democrats delayed the passing of the stimulus bill by a few days because they wanted to push their agenda and add things completely unrelated to the coronavirus to the bill as this bill was a "once in a lifetime opportunity" for them.

I could very easily see politics delaying or amending what the final version of this bill might look like.

The democrats will try to add another $30k worth of student loan forgiveness into this bill.
 
The democrats will try to add another $30k worth of student loan forgiveness into this bill.

they're smart. what better way to protect the consumer economy, which is the biggest portion of GDP. if you help millenials with student loans, the more millenials will spend, and we already know which group of people are relatively unaffected by this virus. millenials will go out and spend no matter how bad this virus gets
 
Wait so you get 8 years back plus someone else’s salary for those same 8 years? Hell yeah thats a great deal, I would take that deal in a heartbeat!
 
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NPR is very left isnt it?
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Seeing as people should create their own opinions and not listen to CNN or MSNBC, I listen to NPRs first up podcast for a quick update occasionally.

This chart showing CNN as almost neutral is pretty funny.

Gotta go with MarketWatch though for all your daily news of course with CNBC on TV
 
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This bill will most likely not pass. Don't get your hopes up.
 
This bill will most likely not pass. Don't get your hopes up.
Getting my hopes up, counting money to buy hookers and blow as we speak.
 
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Seeing as people should create their own opinions and not listen to CNN or MSNBC, I listen to NPRs first up podcast for a quick update occasionally.

This chart showing CNN as almost neutral is pretty funny.

Gotta go with MarketWatch though for all your daily news of course with CNBC on TV

I like Bloomberg TV/radio a lot better, a lot more in depth reporting than CNBC IMO.

But if I need a quick market rundown I flip to CNBC (or if I’m on the treadmill at the gym and that’s the only business channel I can get)


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This is a helpful chart, WVU. The one thing to remember though, *all* of them except the "most extreme" liberal or conservative, *all* of them have an agenda or crony capitalism and that definitely affects their reporting. OK, maybe Natural News is an exception.....they have their own agenda, but I don't think it's crony capitalism.
 
American media has to be absolutely worst. Every medium (tv/ radio/ newspaper) have their own agenda and it’s impossible to get the correct picture about the situation.

Its pretty sad that sometimes I have to rely on BBC which is British, to get the American news!
 
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50k, which is the max amount proposed to be exempted from Feb 15 to June 15, is 1/3 of 150k wage income.

I'd rather they not have means-tested the $1200 coronabucks since this bill won't pass.
 
Seeing as people should create their own opinions and not listen to CNN or MSNBC, I listen to NPRs first up podcast for a quick update occasionally.

This chart showing CNN as almost neutral is pretty funny.

Gotta go with MarketWatch though for all your daily news of course with CNBC on TV

CNN isn't liberal or conservative. They are sensationalist.
 
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That chart has two axes but automatons only think in one axis
 
They skew a bit left, but if it gets eyeballs, they could give a damn. They are on it. They were all over the Lewinsky scandal back in the day.

I argue this with my best friend all the time, who is ultra conservative and claims CNN is just as bad as Fox News. There is a big difference between having an outright ideology being pushed (fox news) vs most of the mainstream media which is largely sensationalist over pushing a specific ideology (CNN is a perfect example). The case I used to argue that was the coverage of Andrew Weiner's weiner....CNN and a lot of other "liberal" media outlets covered that to death. The primary objective for most media outlets is simply for views/clicks, and pushing a certain viewpoint does exist to an extent, but it is secondary to that.
 
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American media has to be absolutely worst. Every medium (tv/ radio/ newspaper) have their own agenda and it’s impossible to get the correct picture about the situation.

Its pretty sad that sometimes I have to rely on BBC which is British, to get the American news!

I reject that there is a “correct” (or unbiased) picture. Everyone has bias. Of course some sources are more biased than others but there is no such thing as a truly unbiased source.

I suspect that most people don’t really even want an unbiased source (even if they think they do), they just want their worldview confirmed.
 
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Definitely not liberal/progressive. Have you seen how biased they are against Bernie? I could have sworn the FoxNews Bernie Town Hall was better moderated than the CNN debates.

Oh I definitely agree there

But then again only 15% of people want Bernie (0% of Republicans and 30% of Democrats)
 
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Definitely not liberal/progressive. Have you seen how biased they are against Bernie? I could have sworn the FoxNews Bernie Town Hall was better moderated than the CNN debates.

Just bc they are pushing one liberal candidate over another does not make them unbiased. CNN has been riding Trump since day 0 more so than any other president in history. Don Lemon openly bashing conservatives like he was in grade school. CNN is as much of a joke as Fox, if you believe otherwise, you are sheep.
 
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For people as educated as you are, I'm surprised you watch general interest news at all. When was the last time knowing the world meant anything but entertainment?

This is not to denigrate specialist news like financial or professional or hobbyist news, but I feel less informed when I watch a general news source like CNN or Fox. WSJ is the closest to general news I read, and I ignore the nonbusiness news articles.
 
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Just bc they are pushing one liberal candidate over another does not make them unbiased. CNN has been riding Trump since day 0 more so than any other president in history. Don Lemon openly bashing conservatives like he was in grade school. CNN is as much of a joke as Fox, if you believe otherwise, you are sheep.

I mean Trump is definitely not qualified. Most important thing in a POTUS is crisis management. The only crisis management Trump knows about is pressing the bankruptcy button.
 
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For people as educated as you are, I'm surprised you watch general interest news at all. When was the last time knowing the world meant anything but entertainment?

This is not to denigrate specialist news like financial or professional or hobbyist news, but I feel less informed when I watch a general news source like CNN or Fox. WSJ is the closest to general news I read, and I ignore the nonbusiness news articles.

Yeah general news sources like CNN and Fox just never go in depth, ever. I read WSJ and their nonbusiness articles and columns are actually quite interesting (A-HED, middle seat, Joanna Stern)


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Getting my hopes up, counting money to buy hookers and blow as we speak.
I'm not sure "hookers and blow" will contribute to helping the economy that much. But 'ya gotta love the sentiment!
 
Definitely not liberal/progressive. Have you seen how biased they are against Bernie? I could have sworn the FoxNews Bernie Town Hall was better moderated than the CNN debates.

It would be more fair to say CNN leans Democratic, and Fox leans Republicans. Current Democrats are not at all liberal/progressive, and Republicans have also strayed far from their roots. Both parties are far more about supporting their lobbyists, then about the ideals they once had.

American media has to be absolutely worst. Every medium (tv/ radio/ newspaper) have their own agenda and it’s impossible to get the correct picture about the situation.
Its pretty sad that sometimes I have to rely on BBC which is British, to get the American news!

I agree, I have a few foreign news sites I regular check, and without fail, they will give a more complete coverage of a US story, then any US media will do.
 
I'm not sure "hookers and blow" will contribute to helping the economy that much. But 'ya gotta love the sentiment!

Customers pay for hookers and blow.

Hookers and drug dealers buy stuff with made money.

Customers and the economy are stimulated.
 
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I knew someone would connect the dots for me. Thank you.
 
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So when’s this being voted on


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The democrats delayed the passing of the stimulus bill by a few days because they wanted to push their agenda and add things completely unrelated to the coronavirus to the bill as this bill was a "once in a lifetime opportunity" for them.

I could very easily see politics delaying or amending what the final version of this bill might look like.


Awww, look at the widdle dip**** that thinks the GOP didn't do the same thing. It must be painful to be that naive.
 
Awww, look at the widdle dip**** that thinks the GOP didn't do the same thing. It must be painful to be that naive.

The GOP introduced the bill so technically the Dems were the ones delaying it this time. Checkmate communists!!
 
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Well if that passes, I am suspending putting into my 401k while I am paying no income tax, then dump more in near the end of the year to still hit the max contribution.
better to reduce to the minnimum needed for company match (my company matches per paycheck, if your qs's up at the end of the year, then it is a good idea.

does anyone actually think this will pass thou?
 
My job is allowing a 100% PTO cash out due to the pandemic. If this passes I will be taking advantage of that for sure. It's not like I was going anywhere this year.
save it up for next year? or the end of the year? (assuming you can carry it over- I started this year with a whopping 15 hours in my bank - and we can carry over 240 hours -so baring me not being able to take a week or two by dec 31- I will save it up and take off a crap town in 2021
 
The democrats delayed the passing of the stimulus bill by a few days because they wanted to push their agenda and add things completely unrelated to the coronavirus to the bill as this bill was a "once in a lifetime opportunity" for them.

I could very easily see politics delaying or amending what the final version of this bill might look like.
you realize both sides did that? there was money for celebacy education in the original bill? The dems (ironically) wanted there to be accountability for the $$ vs Mnuchin having free reign.
 
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