What do you think will happen if the yield assumptions made by programs turn out to be completely wrong because accepted students play it safe and substantially higher percentages of accepted students matriculate into schools/programs that are not being investigated? I saw that none of the TX universities are on the list of 60.
I think the big unknown for most med applicants is financial aid. Certainly for MSTP's, the news about PhD admissions getting suspended and some funded labs getting shut down should make them worry.
It begins when accepted students are compelled to give up other seats. That points to the CYMS protocols, so April usually. We do not want a mad scramble close to our orientation dates. CYMS Commit timelines should begin in June as some schools have super-early orientation start dates by Father's Day (June 21-ish). (It used to be that most schools don't start in earnest until after July 1-4 weekend, but apparently other medical schools want the jumpstart.)
Thank you! For a ranked waitlist, would you say that for every 5 declined offers, 1 applicant is accepted from the waitlist? I am not sure what the ratio is so I appreciate any insight.
Every year is different, so one can't generalize it like this. It also depends on timing, program/track needs, and urgency. When the dust settles, there is a reason why admissions offices manage waitlists to re-fill the entire class multiple times (3-4x at least based on their history). The adage about "interviews three a doctor you will be" is related to managing collective waitlists, but the velocity of filling spots depends on how many offers get declined and why.
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Waitlist movement could be more this cycle at the “at-risk” schools, both T30 and below T30.
Timelines for MD/PhD programs are different than MD programs. For example, our Commit to Enroll begins 21 days prior to enrollment (as per AAMC Traffic Guideline), which is agreed upon on June 1st. Our trainees do a research lab rotation. That means that our Commit to Enroll is May 11. Now, historically the number of MD/PhD acceptances is less than 30 after the second week of May out of a total of 2600 MD/PhD acceptances given to about 850 applicants.
Are schools allowed to have CTE deadline more than 21 days prior to enrollment?
A significant percentage of MD only students are already taking 1-2 research years between M2 and M3 to improve their chances of matching into competitive specialties at top academic medical residencies and that percentage is trending up. Therefore, any adverse impact to research funding will also affect them, not only the MD/PhD students.
Matriculant MCAT average is 516.4 but Accepted MCAT average is 517.6. Does it mean that the highest stat applicants are taking longer to decide where to matriculate (highly unlikely because applicants must select "Plan to Enroll" or "Commit to Enroll" in the CYMS tool by April 30) or does the accepted group include those that got the A which was later rescinded (example NYU)? Unlikely to also be the latter because even in 2024 and earlier, the matriculant avg is lower than accepted avg. Only explanation is that some accepted students with high stats are choosing to not matriculate into an MD/PhD program. Am I missing something?
Is there any type of program (tier, MSTP or not, etc.) that’s contributing more to the WL movement than others? All I’ve been hearing from programs is that they’re planning to take a smaller class and likely no one off the WL.
Point #2 seems to be a major factor. Loss of research indirect costs is already affecting research year (RY) opportunities that many MD- only students avail of between M2 and M3.
| 2025 MDPhD | n | MCAT | cGPA | Science GPA |
| Matriculated | 0 | - | - | - |
| Current AC | 757 | 516.0 | 3.85 | 3.81 |
| Accepted | 805 | 517.5 | 3.88 | 3.85 |
| Applicants | 2,007 | 512.5 | 3.74 | 3.68 |
