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As a guest on the SDN for several years, I browsed through the countless comeback stories as well as those who are still on this journey. I am happy to say that finally after more than a decade I have received acceptances to two medical schools along the West Coast (both allopathic, with another waitlist), and a few more acceptances to osteopathic medical schools across the country. If you are still on this long path, I believe it is possible for you to reach the mountain top if you are realistic with yourself and keep weekly track of your progress. Think of this journey as an overweight person looking to lose a considerable amount of weight. If you are NOT getting A's and the occasional B's in your classes, don't even bother wasting your time going down this difficult road. Similarly, if you are not eating healthy and sticking to disciplined exercise routines, there won't be any progress for achieving weight loss goals.

As an 18 year old college student, I attended several events hosted by a sorority which to this day is one of the biggest regrets of my life. The event that changed my life was a house party hosted by both a sorority and its associated fraternity. Not surprisingly, there were other guests including raucous high school seniors and friends of the hosts. I was naive, wanted to "fit in" and long story short, woke up the next morning in a bedroom in a disillusioned state of mind with a towel and very little clothing. I walked back to my dorm room disheveled and asked myself "what happened?" I tried explaining my situation to different administrators and staff within the University, but it ended up being a fruitless endeavor. Nothing was done to rectify the situation and even worse, word leaked of the events that night which led me to feel extremely hopeless and embarrassed. Instead of seeking a new and fresh start at a different University, I thought I could trudge through this mess and achieve respectable grades until graduation. This was another major mistake, where I ended up barely breaking 2.0 the first three years with nothing to show for my effort except a state of misery and depression, and a slew of C's across my record in my pre-med courses for the health professions. I then enrolled in upper division science courses for my major, where my GPA was further damaged due to my lack of foundation and knowledge. I failed to tell my parents (think strict, no nonsense type) and academic advisors of my situation which was another mistake. After 5 years and no degree nor any motivation, I was academically dismissed from the University with a 1.7 GPA, weighted at 120 units. Moving back home was extremely embarrassing, and I had nothing else to do but clarify the situation with my parents who were understandably shocked and disappointed - here comes their daughter who portrayed this image that everything was fine. After all, what else could they expect from a student who excelled in her AP courses (taking AP Physics and psychology with scores of 5's, BC Calculus with a score of 4), a 95%ile ranking in her graduating high school class, captain of her varsity soccer team and heavy involvement in after school activities. Thankfully, my parents and especially supportive siblings helped me through this extremely tough time. They encouraged me to dig deep and stick with my goal of becoming a physician. There was no point in looking back and dwelling in the past. I took a semester off, and enrolled in a local community college that accepts pretty much anyone looking for a new start, including high school and college dropouts like myself. Looking for any type of help, I searched online and found the Student Doctor Network to see if pursuing medicine was an attainable goal at all. Following the under 3.0 GPA thread as my main resource, I re-enrolled in all the pre-requisite courses required for medical school. It took me 40+ units weighted at a 4.00 GPA with some of my elective credits rolling over from my prior 4-year university. I left with an associate's in biology, which gave me some confidence moving forward as a 24 year old. This was probably the best thing that happened to me. My instructors at the community college level were extremely supportive and helpful during class and office hours. If you are trying to re-invent yourself, I highly recommend getting started at the CC level. Most of your instructors are paid to TEACH (as opposed to the 4 year instructors who are paid to do research). I then applied to a 4-year city college near my parents' residence, which afforded me the opportunity to work and enroll as a full-time student-commuter from home. I declared a biochemistry major, completing upper level courses with A and A- grades. I was able to get involved in a school club, go on some mission trips to South America and do some meaningful research with my Chemistry professor specializing in organometallics. It took me an additional 3 years to fulfill my requirements to graduate as a B.A., but I finally did it and left with a 3.9 GPA weighed at 90+ credits. Immediately after graduation, I studied for two months with Kaplan and EK resources in preparation for the MCAT which was essentially my make/break deal. The test itself is another difficult exam, and I left that room feeling hopeless. Seeing my score many weeks later, I thought it was a mistake. I saw 31 with a balanced distribution across the three sections. My stats on AMCAS were as follows: still a sub 3.0 GPA: 2.8/2.9 (but 3.9 science and undergrad GPA upward trend over the last 5 years), 31 MCAT, and AACOMAS recorded my GPA (with grade replacement) as 3.6. After submitting my application, I received a number of interview offers this past fall and just recently received my acceptances! :soexcited::soexcited:

I am sure there are those of you that are struggling. It is absolutely imperative you have a clear plan and some sort of support group, whether it be your friends and family or an anonymous forum like the SDN. Is life fair to us all? Absolutely not. In fact, you will see people that get away with an incredible amount of utter **** which makes us question the system even more. Several of my high school classmates, known to be pompous and arrogant jerks, were summoned with harrassment, sexual abuse/bullying and theft records before the age of 18, and all seems to be forgiven after that when they turned it around and aced their college courses. One of them is in a highly competitive fellowship in surgery, while another just completed their residency in orthopedics. According to a mutual friend, they really have not changed their personality for the better - still brash and condescending. I always ask myself why it was me, who hasn't hurt others, always trying to do my best to dignify humanity with respect but being at the wrong place at the wrong time, will end up with a late start to my career just because of some earlier grades on my record while others with criminal records at "the right time" will most likely have blossoming careers in medicine. I could keep telling myself what comes around goes around to everyone, or I can just focus on moving forward which is the wiser path. It is the way the system goes and the best thing to do is focus on yourself, learning how to play the game while ignoring the noise on the outside. Good luck to you all, both fellow pre-meds and medical students on this forum.
 
As an 18 year old college student, I attended several events hosted by a sorority which to this day is one of the biggest regrets of my life. The event that changed my life was a house party hosted by both a sorority and its associated fraternity. Not surprisingly, there were other guests including raucous high school seniors and friends of the hosts. I was naive, wanted to "fit in" and long story short, woke up the next morning in a bedroom in a disillusioned state of mind with a towel and very little clothing.

Im confused, was OP assaulted or did she just get drunk and have sex then regret it the next day?
 
Don't go there.

I'm not trying to be inflammatory. If she was assaulted while incapacitated then that is truly horrible.

But "I was naive and just wanted to fit in" makes it sound like she knowingly chose to do whatever she did in order to fit in then regretted it the next day.

I have the utmost sympathy for the former. I have considerably less for the latter.
 
Wait, you got accepted into two allopathic schools (no grade replacement) on the west coast with a sub 3.0 GPA?

I find that rather hard to believe, knowing west coast schools
 
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Congrats on your journey towards medical school and your ultimate acceptance.
 
Im sorry to be that guy but something about this just reeks of a "Feel sorry for me/hollier than thou" attitude.

Several of my high school classmates, known to be pompous and arrogant jerks, were summoned with harrassment, sexual abuse/bullying and theft records before the age of 18, and all seems to be forgiven after that when they turned it around and aced their college courses. One of them is in a highly competitive fellowship in surgery, while another just completed their residency in orthopedics. According to a mutual friend, they really have not changed their personality for the better - still brash and condescending.

These people never did anything to harm you. They are not out there bashing you for your success on some internet forum. They're living their lives and helping people. Maybe you found them abrasive, and they were accused of doing bad things when they were teenagers, but its decades later. If you're going to go around preaching about your redemption, maybe you should try to put yourself in someone else's shoes and not just assume everyone has had a cakewalk while the world has been out to get you?
 
I don't think she would've contacted the school administration if she wasn't assaulted

Not necessarily, many people report sexual misconduct without understanding what is sexual misconduct and what is not. Contrary to popular belief, schools take sexual assault/rape unbelievably seriously. The fact that the administration did nothing suggests that she may not have been assaulted, even though she experienced considerable emotional distress.
 
How can one have a 3.9 science GPA on AMCAS if they bombed science classes for 5 years (op's words)
I'm still curious what west coast MD schools accepted her with a 2.8 GPA
 
How can one have a 3.9 science GPA on AMCAS if they bombed science classes for 5 years (op's words)
I'm still curious what west coast MD schools accepted her with a 2.8 GPA

Upward trend over the past 5 years. Possibly one of the schools being California Northstate?
 
Upward trend over the past 5 years. AACOMAS not AMCAS.
Nah, they said they had a 3.9 science on AMCAS. Even if they got only 20 science units with C's, and 100 science units of A's, that's still a 3.66.
 
''My stats on AMCAS were as follows: still a sub 3.0 GPA: 2.8/2.9 (but 3.9 science and undergrad GPA upward trend over the last 5 years), 31 MCAT, and AACOMAS recorded my GPA (with grade replacement) as 3.6.''


This is what I was referring to. Idk, maybe I'm crazy but it looks like a 3.9 science on AMCAS
 
''My stats on AMCAS were as follows: still a sub 3.0 GPA: 2.8/2.9 (but 3.9 science and undergrad GPA upward trend over the last 5 years), 31 MCAT, and AACOMAS recorded my GPA (with grade replacement) as 3.6.'' This is what I was referring to. Idk, maybe I'm crazy but it looks like a 3.9 science on AMCAS

I believe the 3.9 is her referring to her sGPA on second go-around post community college. I'm more surprised about the amount of time she spent working on her transcripts presuming that her first five years were the "bad" portion, followed by one or two years doing community college, and then followed by another strong 3-4 years in the New York city college.
 
I believe the 3.9 is her referring to her sGPA on second go-around post community college. I'm more surprised about the amount of time she spent working on her transcripts presuming that her first five years were the "bad" portion, followed by one or two years doing community college, and then followed by another strong 3-4 years in the New York city college.
Hm, maybe so... Either way, it seems rather implausible.
 
Something just doesn't seem to add up here

Hm, maybe so... Either way, it seems rather implausible.

''My stats on AMCAS were as follows: still a sub 3.0 GPA: 2.8/2.9 (but 3.9 science and undergrad GPA upward trend over the last 5 years), 31 MCAT, and AACOMAS recorded my GPA (with grade replacement) as 3.6.''


This is what I was referring to. Idk, maybe I'm crazy but it looks like a 3.9 science on AMCAS

"still a sub 3.0 GPA: 2.8/2.9 (but 3.9 science and undergrad GPA upward trend over the last 5 years"- Her CUM GPA's were 2.8/2.9 which includes bad + good. She added the parenthesis to state that despite the 2.9 cum gpa, her last whatever many credit hours was 3.9.
 
I believe the 3.9 is her referring to her sGPA on second go-around post community college. I'm more surprised about the amount of time she spent working on her transcripts presuming that her first five years were the "bad" portion, followed by one or two years doing community college, and then followed by another strong 3-4 years in the New York city college.

Is there a different policy with NY City colleges? I actually spent 15 minutes reading the OP's post and could not find anything related to her attending a college in New York. I think I rather read a passage in the VR section.

On a sidebar, congratulations OP. Your analogy to the weight loss is a good one, though losing weight for me is a little bit harder than repairing an old GPA record. Whoever your classmates were, they probably did change for the better because it is supposedly very difficult to go through residency with a brash attitude like the one you described above.
 
Seeing how intently you guys are nitpicking her GPA reinforces the stereotype of the neurotic premed. Seriously, it's actually slightly disturbing.

Meh, it's not so much nit picking and more just general confusion by people that are on here all the time.

Acceptance to any California with a sub 3.0 is pretty surprising given how insanely competitive they are.
 
Meh, it's not so much nit picking and more just general confusion by people that are on here all the time.

Acceptance to any California with a sub 3.0 is pretty surprising given how insanely competitive they are.
Especially with such an unspectacular MCAT.
 
Meh, it's not so much nit picking and more just general confusion by people that are on here all the time.

Acceptance to any California with a sub 3.0 is pretty surprising given how insanely competitive they are.
The UCs are very competitive but most of them are not numbers oriented. A compelling life story well-told is more important than stand-out numbers at UCs (assuming competency is displayed somehow). It doesn't seem to make sense, but, look at Davis' numbers for example. And they turned away 3.8+/37+ this year - because they are looking for other things.
 
If you are fortunate enough to play your cards right and get accepted to medical school, you will realize that some of your peers and classmates have different stories to tell than you do.

The fact that you're all trying to poke holes in the OP's story instead of realizing that said person could actually be someone that was seen as a student that got their life back together and has a spectacular record for a solid 5 years straight, to me indicates that a few of you have a bit of growing up to do.

There's a difference between healthy skepticism and neuroticism. A lot of this is the latter. The OP's story is definitely not one of the 'average' applicant, but to disregard it as being impossible is comical.
 
If you are fortunate enough to play your cards right and get accepted to medical school, you will realize that some of your peers and classmates have different stories to tell than you do. The fact that you're all trying to poke holes in the OP's story instead of realizing that said person could actually be someone that was seen as a student that got their life back together and has a spectacular record for a solid 5 years straight, to me indicates that a few of you have a bit of growing up to do. There's a difference between healthy skepticism and neuroticism. A lot of this is the latter. The OP's story is definitely not one of the 'average' applicant, but to disregard it as being impossible is comical.

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Last comment hit a bit close to home, eh? I see you're still butt hurt about being called out for your hilariously misguided logic in that other thread a couple of weeks ago.

A+ for hilariously misguided comeback effort kiddo.

Thanks for sharing your self portrait. Here's a penny for your thoughts.

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Don't go there.

Huh. Interesting.
 
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Congrats! Go have a beer and binge watch the office. You deserve it
 
Last comment hit a bit close to home, eh? I see you're still butt hurt about being called out for your hilariously misguided logic in that other thread a couple of weeks ago. A+ for hilariously misguided comeback effort kiddo. Thanks for sharing your self portrait. Here's a penny for your thoughts. Huh. Interesting.

Tbh I don't even remember you.
 
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Really happy for you, OP. Please don't listen to the overly neurotic ones. You don't have to defend yourselves to strangers. I wish you the best of luck in your future. endeavors.
 
Thank you everyone! My numbers are far below the majority of the incoming students and I still can't believe it. If there's any advice I can offer, it's to get right back up after falling and to learn immediately from our mistakes. There are a lot of events which I'd like to take back but I was definitely given more than a second chance and for that, I am extremely fortunate. I apologize to anyone who may have felt offended by the knee-jerk comments toward my other classmates. If they got a head start in medicine, that just means they got a head start in providing meaningful care for others. I cannot complain about that.
 
Congrats OP!

Can't even describe how jealous I am as someone who would do awful things for a chance to stay on the west coast for med school. Best of luck in the future and keep up the good work 😀
 
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