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Hey,

What is the best way to find ideas/areas to research? I need some inspiration of how to discover ideas..

I know when I was a young lad I did research type stuff like how rain goes into the ground, and recycles, etc.. Aren't these kind of topics childish to do as a college presentation poster?
 
Hey,

What is the best way to find ideas/areas to research? I need some inspiration of how to discover ideas..

I know when I was a young lad I did research type stuff like how rain goes into the ground, and recycles, etc.. Aren't these kind of topics childish to do as a college presentation poster?

Yes. You're almost certainly not going to do this research without support, i.e., you'll probably be working at an institution in an already-established lab. The lab you work in will determine the topics you research. Thus, try and work in a lab that does work in topics that interest you. If you don't know what interests you yet, then see what topics you like in your classes. That's how most people figure out topics of interest, at least initially.
 
Thanks for the response..

I'm curious though, why is someone already established needed to present a researched poster presentation? I'm thinking with the net wide open, and people being so easily contacted by their email address I could research a topic myself. I suppose getting a LOR in the future would be quiet beneficial though..

I'm definitely interested in some topics to do with the eye, and brain. I'm not too in-depth knowledgeable in this area, and honestly no one in my immediate area is likely studying either of these areas(SE OH).
 
Thanks for the response..

I'm curious though, why is someone already established needed to present a researched poster presentation? I'm thinking with the net wide open, and people being so easily contacted by their email address I could research a topic myself. I suppose getting a LOR in the future would be quiet beneficial though..

I'm definitely interested in some topics to do with the eye, and brain. I'm not too in-depth knowledgeable in this area, and honestly no one in my immediate area is likely studying either of these areas(SE OH).

Because you're going to need significant resources to do any research that is worth presenting and/or publishing - resources that you almost certainly can't afford (we're talking tens of thousands of dollars of equipment and reagents at LEAST). It's simply not possible due to "real" research outside the context of a university- or industry-funded lab. You can't just hypothesize about a topic without doing any experimentation to test it. That's your problem.
 
While I certainly can see where your coming from I think the research your thinking of is quiet abit more in-depth, or slighted more toward chemistry/internal biology then the level I am speaking of.

I'm thinking the level of Pavlov's famous dog discovery.
 
Also, pedigree matters. It's hard to be taken seriously without the backing of a known member of the field in question who has overseen you project to ensure adherence to appropriate standards of investigation and also considered the validity of your findings in the context of the current knowledge of the subject. That being said, a great place to look for current areas of investigation are recent review articles. They often include a section related to future investigations.

Also, realize when you contact investigators about help for research there is a certain expectation of reciprocity. I.e. if you were actually found a PI willing to spend hours of time working with you via email you should plan to include them on the poster, or at least as an acknowledgement/citation in your references.

You should also realize that science is regulated. If Pavlov lived today he would have to get institutional approval to do his experiment on the dogs. You won't be able to get such approval without an established professor, I would wager.
 
While I certainly can see where your coming from I think the research your thinking of is quiet abit more in-depth, or slighted more toward chemistry/internal biology then the level I am speaking of.

I'm thinking the level of Pavlov's famous dog discovery.

I see what you're saying, but this sort of thing simply isn't going to be possible. Even if you COULD do these kinds of basic, intuitive experiments and discovered something that is worthy of presentation, as mmmc mentioned there's pretty much no chance that you'll be able to find a forum that will let you present your work without having any sort of academic "sponsor."
 
Thanks for the responses...

I actually kind of find this frustrating, but yet I understand why it's like this these days; oh how I wish I was born 20 years ago..

mmmcdowe, I definitely wasn't aware that someone would need institutional approval of experiments of this nature.. Why? I'm genuinely curious.. To make sure your keeping the animals humanely, or ?

I wouldn't mind giving someone credit on a presentation..

I'm talking research on the level.. well.. Let me honest here.. I'm looking to do research that is in a field I am interested in that would look good on a med school application, but not only that.. something I actually may be able to study when after med school possibly.

While I was speaking to a professor in the local psychology department I had learned he did his dissertation on how ants get back home after venturing out for food, and I found that pretty interesting..

I'm also kind of interested in the circadian rhythm..
 
I'm thinking the level of Pavlov's famous dog discovery.

That type of research was done 100+ years ago when there was little to no regulation of scientific research. Following with your example, you can't just go to the pound and adopt 15 random dogs to experiment on. I guess you physically could, but your research would not be accepted anywhere without at least a sponsor.

If you're talking about just researching what Pavlov discovered and presenting a poster about that, I doubt you'll find a place to present. That's more of a middle/high school science fair project thing, not college-level research. The level of research you should be looking for is hypothesis-based research.
 
Thanks for the responses...

I actually kind of find this frustrating, but yet I understand why it's like this these days; oh how I wish I was born 20 years ago..

mmmcdowe, I definitely wasn't aware that someone would need institutional approval of experiments of this nature.. Why? I'm genuinely curious.. To make sure your keeping the animals humanely, or ?

I wouldn't mind giving someone credit on a presentation..

I'm talking research on the level.. well.. Let me honest here.. I'm looking to do research that is in a field I am interested in that would look good on a med school application, but not only that.. something I actually may be able to study when after med school possibly.

While I was speaking to a professor in the local psychology department I had learned he did his dissertation on how ants get back home after venturing out for food, and I found that pretty interesting..

I'm also kind of interested in the circadian rhythm..

These things are in place to make sure animals are both humanely used and not used unnecessarily. Almost all universities have a board called IACUC (or something similar) that approves all research involving animals. They review your protocols and proposed experiments and either accept them or suggest changes.

As far as the examples you mentioned, I assure you they use advanced data collection techniques if they're worth anything as a scientist.
 
Both of those subjects would require a lab. I did ant migration research myself fore three years in college, under a PI known in the field. Circadian rhythm stuff would, at this point, also require a lab or a clinical outlet.

To answer your q about institutional board regulation:

The regulations that apply to animals in laboratories vary across species. In the U.S., under the provisions of the Animal Welfare Act and the Guide for the Care and Use of Laboratory Animals (the Guide), published by the National Academy of Sciences, any procedure can be performed on an animal if it can be successfully argued that it is scientifically justified. In general, researchers are required to consult with the institution's veterinarian and its Institutional Animal Care and Use Committee (IACUC), which every research facility is obliged to maintain.[40] The IACUC must ensure that alternatives, including non-animal alternatives, have been considered, that the experiments are not unnecessarily duplicative, and that pain relief is given unless it would interfere with the study. Larry Carbone, a laboratory animal veterinarian, writes that, in his experience, IACUCs take their work very seriously regardless of the species involved, though the use of non-human primates always raises what he calls a "red flag of special concern."[41] A study published in Science magazine in July 2001 confirmed the low reliability of IACUC reviews of animal experiments. Funded by the National Science Foundation, the three-year study found that animal-use committees that do not know the specifics of the university and personnel do not make the same approval decisions as those made by animal-use committees that do know the university and personnel. Specifically, blinded committees more often ask for more information rather than approving studies.[42]
The IACUCs regulate all vertebrates in testing at institutions receiving federal funds in the USA. Although the provisions of the Animal Welfare Act do not include purpose-bred rodents and birds, these species are equally regulated under Public Health Service policies that govern the IACUCs.[43][44] Animal Welfare Act regulations are enforced by the USDA, whereas Public Health Service regulations are enforced by OLAW and in many cases by AAALAC.


from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_testing#Regulations



Thanks for the responses...

I actually kind of find this frustrating, but yet I understand why it's like this these days; oh how I wish I was born 20 years ago..

mmmcdowe, I definitely wasn't aware that someone would need institutional approval of experiments of this nature.. Why? I'm genuinely curious.. To make sure your keeping the animals humanely, or ?

I wouldn't mind giving someone credit on a presentation..

I'm talking research on the level.. well.. Let me honest here.. I'm looking to do research that is in a field I am interested in that would look good on a med school application, but not only that.. something I actually may be able to study when after med school possibly.

While I was speaking to a professor in the local psychology department I had learned he did his dissertation on how ants get back home after venturing out for food, and I found that pretty interesting..

I'm also kind of interested in the circadian rhythm..
 
This discussion has been quiet helpful.. Thank you both of you, and Ismet..

I suppose I will have to find someone doing research of interest until I have the experience, and credentials to do my own research..

I think there are discoveries with the circadian rhythm...

mmc, if your interested here is that professors dissertation.. http://drum.lib.umd.edu/bitstream/1903/2369/1/umi-umd-2228.pdf It's publicly available, and such so I don't think he'd mind if I shared it here..

I'm not involved in the scientific community around where I am if there even is one.. I'm not to sure there actually even is.. We are a pretty small town, and just have a state university here that mainly seems to focus on nursing..
 
In short, if you don't have a preexisting interest, just glom on to a lab at your college and help them with their research. In helping them with their own research, you'll begin to identify areas in the field that have specific unanswered questions or recent novel findings that may warrant attempts at replication. This method will teach you the nuts and bolts of conducting scientific research while also familiarizing you with a field enough that you can start to figure out what sorts of novel research merits doing.

If you already have a preexisting interest (circadian rhythms, for example), you'll want to see if anyone at your school is involved in related research. Check out faculty pages from relevant disciplines and see if any have it as a research interest they've pursued. Obviously, when you are looking for such a specific line of research, your luck may depend on how gargantuan and research-heavy your school is. You need a mentor already interested in the field if, as a fledgeling undergrad, you're going to hope to get a solid grasp on the current state of the field not to mention access to appropriate equipment / lab animals.

If you aren't in college yet, eh. You don't have to worry about it all that much. Lacking an obvious program to integrate high school students into scientific research through the local university/your high school, I would recommend playing video games as an alternative.
 
I honesntly don't think they do much research around my local university.. I don't know of any research, publications, etc.. they've done if they do indeed do research..

I'm not currently enrolled at the university, but I was... I kind of dropped out in 2006 directly after graduating high school.. I been experiencing this thing called life the last 6 years, and realigning myself.. I indeed have a long ways to go(pretty much an entire degree start to finish). I have to retake all the classes I previously took as I did bad in them.(around 8 classes) but I just find researching into medicine, and such interesting.

I'm trying now to get into a LPN program at the local school, and hope to work as a LPN while retaking, and taking classes earning a degree at the local university, gaining clinical experience, earning a degree, and at the end attending medical school if thats in the cards in 4-5 years. I'm currently 24 almost 25(November), so I won't be trying to get into medical school probably until I am 30. I'll have hopefully 3-4 years of experience as a LPN hopefully in a clinical setting, and not have too much student loan debt while retaking classes, and preparing to apply for med school.
 
You need to talk to PI's and postdocs and fellows that are researching and looking for assistant(s).

Personally, I found genetics research with animals the most fun and interesting. Some other people might go for blots, gels, and PCR's all day. There's lots more "themes" and "opportunities" in both basic science and clinical research, and it's up to you to go out and find them.
 
I can't imagine any university that doesn't do any research at all. Have you looked around the science departments? If not, then you can do one of those summer research programs but I generally don't believe in those. But yeah, just saying, it takes loads of education and experience, which is why professional researchers require roughly 10-12 years of college education and a 4+ year postdoc. You need an academic sponsor because you need access to their huge amount of knowledge to guide you when things don't go as planned. And seriously, things will not go as planned. Especially in the kind of research you speak of. You also need them to leech off their credibility because nobody will listen to an undergraduate with no real education (no offense, that's what I am too).

Really though, if you ever plan to get into research at your university, just jump at any opportunity, even if it is outside of your field of interest. As a lot of my research mentors have told me, research is research. You're an undergraduate, you are not conducting research to make some kind of discovery. You are doing it to learn how to research. You have your entire career to research what you truly care about but for now, you are here to learn how to do it first.
 
While I certainly can see where your coming from I think the research your thinking of is quiet abit more in-depth, or slighted more toward chemistry/internal biology then the level I am speaking of.

I'm thinking the level of Pavlov's famous dog discovery.
Are you looking to do research in psych?

If so, you will need a faculty member (ie, psych professor) who is interested enough in your topic to help you through the research process. Process includes the IRB (Institutional Review Board) who will need to check your research topic, proposed methods, and weigh any negative outcomes (stress to subject, etc.) with positive ones (knowledge gained, etc.) They will also want to look at how you plan to account for high attrition rates (my Professor's research had at least a 50% attrition rate. 50% of subjects did not show up for the questionnaire/study. This is even with a 30$ gift card guaranteed to all participants). You will also need funds (for the gift cards/other motivational tools, for the use facilities), maybe even helpers (to distribute 300 questionnaires randomly on the streets so you can then randomly select from those initial participants, people who would come in for the actual study).

So for all these reasons you will probably need a Professor to help you. I actually started to do am exercise psych research of my own so I got a bit of an idea of whats going early on. Had to quit due to time constraints, but hopefully this post helps a bit.

Edit: just saw that all this has been mentioned in this thread. Ah well, at least I postponed doing some real work for 10 minutes. 😛
 
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