Finished D1 at UNC... AMA!

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Hey! So I know I've been extremely scarce around here, but we have two weeks off before summer classes begins and I figured I'd come around and see if anyone had questions about my first year of dental school. (Kudos to all the other folks who gave me the idea for this thread.) 👍


ahhh time sure flies!!! I remember asking you for advice on DAT prep and other stuff last summer and before that.. and now you're a second year dental student, and I'm about to apply this coming cycle. Is this a real life?!?! haha

Congratulations, Glimmer1991! I cannot wait to be in your shoes! 🙂

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Hey! So I know I've been extremely scarce around here, but we have two weeks off before summer classes begins and I figured I'd come around and see if anyone had questions about my first year of dental school. (Kudos to all the other folks who gave me the idea for this thread.) 👍

No questions at the moment, but I wanted to thank you for all you've done for the SDN community. I hope you are loving dental school. You're gonna make an awesome dentist! Hope to see you on the threads more when you get free time!
 
Hey Glimmer! Been so long! I was wondering what apps on the Mac you found useful with studying/note-taking? I have barely used Macs, but will be getting one for school. Also, how long did it take you to adjust to pre-clinics, since I've read you said it was very fast paced? Do you recommend any specific loupes? My school is having vendors which include orascoptic, design for vision, and surgitel. I also regularly go to the gym, so is it possible to still be able to if I even give up social time?
 
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GLIMMER! I also remember you from last year, and the year before, when i was going crazy trying to figure out how to apply, and i would real allllllll of your posts learning everything. AND NOW im an incoming D1. YAY!
 
Hey Glimmer! Been so long! I was wondering what apps on the Mac you found useful with studying/note-taking? I have barely used Macs, but will be getting one for school. Also, how long did it take you to adjust to pre-clinics, since I've read you said it was very fast paced? Do you recommend any specific loupes? My school is having vendors which include orascoptic, design for vision, and surgitel. I also regularly go to the gym, so is it possible to still be able to if I even give up social time?

I HIGHLY recommend GrowlyNotes ($5 bucks in the app store). It's like a beefed-up version of OneNote, where you can do useful things like highlight WITHIN PDFs and whatnot. Frankly, OneNote for Mac isn't very robust and pretty much sucks, IMO.

I was pretty much good at waxing from day 1, which was unexpected. (I had worried that my hand skills wouldn't be "up to par," since that's something you can't really prepare too much for, haha!) It took me a little while to get adjusted to actually using the high speed hand piece in the clinic during second semester, but I improved within a few weeks. It was always hard to see my progress because we QUICKLY moved from one difficult task to even-more-difficult tasks as we progressed from one lab period to the next, but hey, it all worked out. It is just kind of awkward when you start out because some of the teeth are hard to see, you aren't sure where to sit relative to the patient to get the best vantage point, you don't know where to hold the mirror so you can see what the heck you're doing in the mouth, you aren't sure where to finger rest, it's kind of hard to hold the drill steady and get a consistent drilling depth, etc. And then, there's using indirect vision--which basically means working on the upper teeth while looking solely in your mirror. This is SO DIFFICULT (at least for me) at first. Our professor told us it takes a few weeks for our brain to form the neural pathways to be able to work like that (which is kind of like working with mirrored motions of what you would normally do), and I found that to be very true. I struggled and struggled, but one random day, I went into lab and it's like things had legitimately just "clicked." I could suddenly use indirect vision. But then, when I was done, I pulled up a PDF on my computer and realized I was scrolling "upside down" because I was using the same motions I had to use in lab... LOL! But yeah, I'm pretty good at it now, though it was stressful at first.

My loupes are the 2.5x from DFV. I bought a LumaDent light. I went with these after doing LOTS of research on SDN and DentalDown. Overall, I don't have any complaints.

That being said, I started with the 3.5xEF from DFV. They were great loupes, and I liked the mag... BUT, I am a small person, and they were just incredibly heavy for me. They hurt my head, and because of their weight, they always wanted to slide down my nose. I ended up exchanging them. If I ever want a higher mag, I might look into different loupe brands and see what is out there to offer.

A lot of my classmates bought Heine 2.5x loupes and seem happy with them, but they are a bit bulky. I'd give them a look too, though!

Gym can definitely be worked in!
 
I HIGHLY recommend GrowlyNotes ($5 bucks in the app store). It's like a beefed-up version of OneNote, where you can do useful things like highlight WITHIN PDFs and whatnot. Frankly, OneNote for Mac isn't very robust and pretty much sucks, IMO.

I was pretty much good at waxing from day 1, which was unexpected. (I had worried that my hand skills wouldn't be "up to par," since that's something you can't really prepare too much for, haha!) It took me a little while to get adjusted to actually using the high speed hand piece in the clinic during second semester, but I improved within a few weeks. It was always hard to see my progress because we QUICKLY moved from one difficult task to even-more-difficult tasks as we progressed from one lab period to the next, but hey, it all worked out. It is just kind of awkward when you start out because some of the teeth are hard to see, you aren't sure where to sit relative to the patient to get the best vantage point, you don't know where to hold the mirror so you can see what the heck you're doing in the mouth, you aren't sure where to finger rest, it's kind of hard to hold the drill steady and get a consistent drilling depth, etc. And then, there's using indirect vision--which basically means working on the upper teeth while looking solely in your mirror. This is SO DIFFICULT (at least for me) at first. Our professor told us it takes a few weeks for our brain to form the neural pathways to be able to work like that (which is kind of like working with mirrored motions of what you would normally do), and I found that to be very true. I struggled and struggled, but one random day, I went into lab and it's like things had legitimately just "clicked." I could suddenly use indirect vision. But then, when I was done, I pulled up a PDF on my computer and realized I was scrolling "upside down" because I was using the same motions I had to use in lab... LOL! But yeah, I'm pretty good at it now, though it was stressful at first.

My loupes are the 2.5x from DFV. I bought a LumaDent light. I went with these after doing LOTS of research on SDN and DentalDown. Overall, I don't have any complaints.

That being said, I started with the 3.5xEF from DFV. They were great loupes, and I liked the mag... BUT, I am a small person, and they were just incredibly heavy for me. They hurt my head, and because of their weight, they always wanted to slide down my nose. I ended up exchanging them. If I ever want a higher mag, I might look into different loupe brands and see what is out there to offer.

A lot of my classmates bought Heine 2.5x loupes and seem happy with them, but they are a bit bulky. I'd give them a look too, though!

Gym can definitely be worked in!
Really appreciate the in-depth response. Thanks for everything that you do to help everyone on this forum to succeed 🙂
 
Just stopping by to say hi to fellow c/o 2018. Gosh... how time passes by..
 
Hi @Glimmer1991 , I start D1 in August. But this spring semester (last semester of undergrad) , I kind of experienced at least 1 test every week for the entire semester, some weeks with 2,3 even 4 tests (this past week). I do okay (probably because I lowered my expectations by a LOT due to senioritis) but can you please tell me more in detail how your 7-business-day study method goes? What happens when you don't have all the information yet when you're trying to study for the test 7 days from now? I tend to study better when I have all the pieces in one place (by reading ahead) but I'm sure that will not be the case in dental school with the huge amount of information load.

Another set of questions for you is, do you have any classes that you dread (as in the materials won't click or stick), and what do you do to get through/do well in them considering the pace is relatively fast?
 
Hey Glimmer! Just stoppin by to say hello as a future D1 at UNC 🙂 Thanks for all the tips you've given us on SDN 🙂
 
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Hi @Glimmer1991 , I start D1 in August. But this spring semester (last semester of undergrad) , I kind of experienced at least 1 test every week for the entire semester, some weeks with 2,3 even 4 tests (this past week). I do okay (probably because I lowered my expectations by a LOT due to senioritis) but can you please tell me more in detail how your 7-business-day study method goes? What happens when you don't have all the information yet when you're trying to study for the test 7 days from now? I tend to study better when I have all the pieces in one place (by reading ahead) but I'm sure that will not be the case in dental school with the huge amount of information load.

Another set of questions for you is, do you have any classes that you dread (as in the materials won't click or stick), and what do you do to get through/do well in them considering the pace is relatively fast?

Hey, greyangel!

Gosh, I'm not sure exactly how to detail the method. I just start 7 days out, and I put in as much time as is necessary to get through all of the info. I try to incorporate review into each day.
Let's say a test has 12 lectures on it...
Day 1: learn lectures 1 & 2
Day 2: review lectures 1 & 2, go through lectures 3 & 4
Day 3: review lectures 3 & 4 (also 1 & 2 if I can muster up the energy), and learn lectures 5 & 6
So on and so forth. By day 6, I'll have gone through all the lectures at least once. The final day is spent reviewing EVERYTHING--I really like to make sure that I have at least one day to wrap everything up (and look at practice problems, if available).

Since I start at the beginning and work forward, by the time I get to the end of the 7 day period, we will have covered all of the possible lectures. But, no--we won't have covered them all before I start studying. That would require some major cramming, as we sometimes have our final lecture 2-3 days before the test. 🙂

Honestly, I just push through those classes that I really, REALLY dread. For me, this was biochem during the fall, and micro during the spring. Studying was painfully difficult/boring and I dreaded every test, but I just sucked it up, I guess! I use the same method for them as I do every other class. Hard work pays off, even if it's done begrudgingly. 😛
 
Glimmer, thanks for everything you have contributed to the board. Throughout your first year how much writing have you had to do? Also, what are teachers final grades typically composed of? Is it strictly from tests?
 
Glimmer, thanks for all the info. I saw you mentioned your fiancé. I am going to be a newly wed going in to my first year of dental school and I am slightly worried about the stresses of D1 being added to the stresses of being newly married. I'm not sure what your situation is, but do you have any advice for family life while keeping up with the busyness of school?
 
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Glimmer, thanks for all the info. I saw you mentioned your fiancé. I am going to be a newly wed going in to my first year of dental school and I am slightly worried about the stresses of D1 being added to the stresses of being newly married. I'm not sure what your situation is, but do you have any advice for family life while keeping up with the busyness of school?

if you make sure you feed and love your wife good, then she will leave you alone to study
 
have you had a girlfriend yet? obviously not ha :laugh:

I'm married and my wife would have laughed if I made the exact same comment.



yall get all sensitive when i say, in different words, exactly what the girl said. :shrug:
 
I'm married and my wife would have laughed if I made the exact same comment.



yall get all sensitive when i say, in different words, exactly what the girl said. :shrug:

i guess humor doesnt translate well through words lol
luckily, my bf used to be a chef, so he feeds me and then teaches me so i can do the same :clap:
 
Glimmer, thanks for everything you have contributed to the board. Throughout your first year how much writing have you had to do? Also, what are teachers final grades typically composed of? Is it strictly from tests?

Not much writing at all... Just two group essays and a few group assignments that required some writing. I've never been a fan of group work, but they were bearable. Also, to prepare us for boards, the vast majority of our tests are multiple choice. We have had one professor in particular that made us do short answers/diagrams, but even those were SHORT answers. Never more than a sentence of two.

In general, tests make up the majority of our grades for most professors. However, in classes with a lab component, it is often 50% exam scores and 50% lab grades. Some classes have quizzes, and the quizzes count for anywhere from 5-15% of our overall grade. Almost all of our quizzes were previously announced (thank goodness!). The number of tests we have had in our classes ranges from 1-5, but I'd say that 3 is the average. The classes with only 1 test were just really short, 1 credit hour classes.
 
Glimmer, thanks for all the info. I saw you mentioned your fiancé. I am going to be a newly wed going in to my first year of dental school and I am slightly worried about the stresses of D1 being added to the stresses of being newly married. I'm not sure what your situation is, but do you have any advice for family life while keeping up with the busyness of school?

Hey, JRod!

My fiancé and I have been together for around 6 years, and we have both been in school for the entirety of that. (We got together in high school.) He's in law school currently. His schedule isn't as packed as mine, and he has more free time than me... However, he gets what I am going through and knows how serious I am about school, so it really hasn't caused any problems as compared to how things have always been. Sure, there are weeks where we have tons of tests and I am super grumpy, but that happened in undergrad too! 🙂 We still spend PLENTY of time together--dinner together is always a thing, and we often take the weekends off from schoolwork to spend with each other. I don't think that dental school has taken a toll on our relationship at all. In fact, since we were long distance during undergrad and now live right next to each other in Chapel Hill, things have actually improved! It's nice to have someone there for you when you're up to your eyeballs in stress. Hehe.

So, my ultimate advice? If you know you're going to have to study quite a bit during a particular day/week, get up early and get in an hour or two. Then get in an hour during lunch. That way, when you come home, your entire evening won't be spent studying and you can hang out with your spouse. Also, working really hard during the week pays off when you have Saturday and Sunday free from school. It really, REALLY helps me when I'm not worried about school every single day. (Although I'll freely admit that those nagging feelings about what I "could" be doing to prepare for the next week are still there... I just try to shut them off.) 🙂 It's so nice for us to have days where we can just hang out!

Do you have kids? If so, that's an entirely different ballgame. I think that my school philosophy would quickly change to "just pass everything!!!" if kids got thrown into the mix. Major props to the people (especially mothers!) that are able to juggle all of that.
 
I will be a D1 at UNC beginning in August and had a couple questions specific to UNC. What computer do you have, do you like it, what would you recommend? Also, do you purchase all of the required textbooks? In my undergrad majority of our textbooks were rentals and the price was included in tuition so I always had the textbooks but rarely opened them. And what would you say the total cost is for textbooks in a semester? Thanks Glimmer!
 
I will be a D1 at UNC beginning in August and had a couple questions specific to UNC. What computer do you have, do you like it, what would you recommend? Also, do you purchase all of the required textbooks? In my undergrad majority of our textbooks were rentals and the price was included in tuition so I always had the textbooks but rarely opened them. And what would you say the total cost is for textbooks in a semester? Thanks Glimmer!

Hey!

I haven't bought a single textbook. You can find PDF editions of all the ones we need (and it is EXTREMELY rare that you need one). 🙂 You do have to buy a course packet for one course in the fall and one in the spring... I think the packets are $15 bucks a pop.

I have a souped up Macbook Pro.
Check out this thread that I made last year... http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/laptop-tablet-whatcha-gonna-get.1058419/page-3

13" MB Pro with Retina Display
  • 2.8GHz Dual-core Intel Core i7
  • 16GB 1600MHz DDR3L SDRAM
  • 512GB Flash Storage
I'd say that about 90% of us have Macs. There are a few Lenovos mixed in. I've used both kinds of computers, and I would NEVER go back to a Windows operating system. 🙂
 
Hey Glimmer,
How do you study for cumulative finals?
 
Hey Glimmer,
How do you study for cumulative finals?

Fortunately, we rarely have them. However, when we do, I try to start studying a bit further than a week in advance. Say, if I had 16 PPTs to study, I'd probably start 2 weeks out and try to do 2 PPTS a day (and obviously a third one on days when I'm moving along quickly). No special method here, unfortunately...
 
Glimmer, what is the realistic cost of attending UNC? It's not listed in the DocToothache's guide, and on UNC's website it says $160k for instate and $290k for out of state. Do those numbers seem correct to you?

Also, is the campus in a suburban or urban setting? Is there a lot to do in walking distance?
 
Glimmer, what is the realistic cost of attending UNC? It's not listed in the DocToothache's guide, and on UNC's website it says $160k for instate and $290k for out of state. Do those numbers seem correct to you?

Also, is the campus in a suburban or urban setting? Is there a lot to do in walking distance?

I did UNC for undergrad, so I can take this one (had my UNC Dentistry interview last Saturday!). Chapel Hill is made for pedestrians. Free bus system runs all day and most of the night and can take you anywhere you want to go...but even then it's not really necessary. Franklin Street where everything is is walking distance as is everything else on campus. The only question is where you live...may or may not necessitate a commute. My last semester of undergrad I lived in an apartment complex which had a bus stop right outside and took the bus into campus every day. Rent for a 2 bedroom was about 900 a month including utilities and furniture...but that was 2006, lol. Before that I lived in Granville Towers which was right in the center of campus. I think it's gone now though.
 
Hey! So I know I've been extremely scarce around here, but we have two weeks off before summer classes begins and I figured I'd come around and see if anyone had questions about my first year of dental school. (Kudos to all the other folks who gave me the idea for this thread.) 👍

Congratulations!
 
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