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Took the DAT today. Wanted to share the experience and some tips. Here are the scores. (Used Destroyer, Kaplan and TopScore...see notes below)

O.C.--24--94.4%
G.C.--22--88.7%
BIO--19--75.3%
PAT--19--75.2%
R.C.--21--80.2%
Q.R.--17--63.2%

A.A.--21--91%
T.S.--22--95.3%

Starting from the sections where I have least to say. (if you're short on time or patience, skip the next 3 paragraphs. The most important stuff I have to say is in the sciences)

PAT--I routinely topped 20 on topscore, so I'd say that the actual DAT PAT was a little harder, but Topscore and Kaplan arent bad. When you practice make mental notes. For example I noticed that for keyhole you use the big empty squares as a last resort, because very often they don't appear to scale anyway. I mean I'm not a PAT expert, but you pick up on certain trends when you practice--especially holepunching--where theres a couple of folds they just recycle over and over again.

Q.R.--okay, I know 17 looks like it sucks but it was a success for me. I basically looked at each problem and if I didn't know what to do right away, I guessed and marked it. Believe me I notched a 17 without knowing a single trig function. I then used the extra time to guess and check the other ones. It isn't very sophisticated but I'm telling you its the only way I survived.

R.C.--I developed a technique while practicing the reading comp, and since I have done well. If you use Topscore It is exactly the same except before the questions appear you can view the entire passage instead of using half the screen for passage and half for questions. This is what I did: First I made sure to read the passage only in that little window because when I reference it to look back for answers I want it to appear exactly as it did when i first read it. Notice that the paragraphs are numbered. I wrote down the number of each paragraph and titled it. when i was finished i had an understanding of the passage and my own custom mini table of contents. I finished every passage ahead of schedule and notched a 21.

O. C. and G.C. and BIO-- I can only say this one way. Once you have your foundation in these subjects (for foundation just use any of the classics: Kaplan, Cliff's AP Bio...) you need the experience doing the problems. DESTROYER!!!!! A lot of people think that doing problems in a question format booklet will leave you lagging in the conceptual department. I cannot disagree any more strongly!!! The explanations in the solutions sections are flawless in depth and to the point. Also, every potential DAT taker and his mother has the book, so if you dont understand something, you can just get on here and ask anybody. Remember its not a practice test. If you treat it as one you are shooting yourself in the foot. I mean O.C. and G.C. 24 and 22 respectively. need i say more? as far as bio, when i first looked at destroyer i thought some of the questions were very specific, but I can't stress enough how similar some of my questions were. I mean had i not looked at destroyer, i would have thought the test nothing like what i studied. Understand: I read kaplan and cliffs basically twice each, and im glad i did, because i needed that to round my general knowledge, but in terms of specific questions IT JUST DOESN'T CUT IT!! get the destroyer and stay on top of the updates. I dont care if you need the shipped like every other day. Without my updates im looking at another summer of this studying crap. I mean I could sit here and tell you exactly what number questions in destroyer pointed me in the right direction on the actual test but im not risking trouble for all you guys out there. Ive said enough. know destroyer bio--every answer choice--why its wrong or right--and get those updates!!!!!!!!!!!.....!!!!...!!! ...(!!!!)

Intangibles: when i sat down i went nuts and panicked and my body was shaking and answered a whole bunch of orgo questions wrong, but i used the awesome "mark" feature and when i had finished all 100 questions once, and had a full half hour left, and my mind was once again functional i went back and changed them. (THANK G-D) so if youre the type to spaz, spaz away and move quickly and eventually you'll calm down. arite guyz, thats all i got for you. good luck to all.
 
Congrats on amazing scores...

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Dude you earned a set in Dental School!

A.A.--21--91%
T.S.--22--95.3%

Wow 90%
 
🙂Nice stuff ...

you really did well, Thanks for the advice

Good Luck

Like Saber Tooth You earned a set in Dental School
 
Good job!!!!!!!!! 👍👍👍👍👍👍:luck::luck::luck::luck::luck:I hope to do as well as you next week! I'm keeping the faith strong and alive!!
 
Good job. Congrats. May I ask what you were getting for RC in your practice tests (top score or Kaplan)
 
yeah. always between 20 and 22. try my trick for rc. by the way the actual dat passages were more interesting than topscore.
 
yeah. always between 20 and 22. try my trick for rc. by the way the actual dat passages were more interesting than topscore.

I'm going to try that on a topscore tonight. I have a RC or two I wasn't planning on using left.

Just a title for every paragraph. I really like that idea. Test is on saturday, so hopefully a new method won't throw me for a loop.

Although my old method, searching for terms without reading passage, I feel won't get me far on the real thing.

When you say read the passage from the "little window". You mean, like in topscore... just skip straight to the question and read it there?

As opposed to reading the whole thing from the title page or whatever, then skipping to the questions and the passage changes?
 
you got it. 100%. i swear by this. you want it to look the same when you first read it and when you look back. so go to question 1 and read it there. also when you read thru it (somewhat quickly) you build your table of contents naming each one by number and titling it as if its its own little thing.
 
Thanks for your trick. English is my second language I afaraid of RC. I got 18-19 in kaplan practices and I am getting 19-20 in Topscore. I am going to use your methode for achiver.
Thanks
 
you got it. 100%. i swear by this. you want it to look the same when you first read it and when you look back. so go to question 1 and read it there. also when you read thru it (somewhat quickly) you build your table of contents naming each one by number and titling it as if its its own little thing.

Does the article reset everytime you go to the next question, like in achiever?

Also, are you able to highlight what you are reading with your mouse... not like permanently highlight it, but you know what I mean?
The way you are able to do with this text that I am writing right now? Just kinda grab it and it will invert the colors... but when you click somewhere else it "un-highlights"
 
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yes the article resets but its no big deal, and you can highlite which is especially helpful in "all of the following were mentioned except..." because as you eliminate choices and look back and forth you can find what you need,
 
yes the article resets but its no big deal, and you can highlite which is especially helpful in "all of the following were mentioned except..." because as you eliminate choices and look back and forth you can find what you need,

Thanks.

Sorry to keep grilling you, but 1 more:

Are there many "None of the above" type answer choices?

I hate those ones, and on practice tests I've gotten used to the fact that MOST of the time, that is not the correct answer.

Sorry, just trying to have as few surprises as possible.
 
So in general, what were the basics that you memorized... did you just memorize formulas by doing them repeatedly over with destroyer? Oh and for QR- were there alot of word problems? By the way--GREAT SCORE!!! You will definitely get in wherever you want!!!
 
for sure doing lots of problems helps but i made sure whenever i studied i had a paper next to me. one designated for orgo and one for chem. whenever i came across something i wanted to remember i made note of it. for example many formulas have "m" sometimes molarity, molality, mass. so i wwrote them down with their units. same thing for speed of light, plancks const. avogodros. so i could personalize one place to get all the info that i personally struggle with. then i look over it from time to time. for bio i also used some index cards for memorization.
 
for sure doing lots of problems helps but i made sure whenever i studied i had a paper next to me. one designated for orgo and one for chem. whenever i came across something i wanted to remember i made note of it. for example many formulas have "m" sometimes molarity, molality, mass. so i wwrote them down with their units. same thing for speed of light, plancks const. avogodros. so i could personalize one place to get all the info that i personally struggle with. then i look over it from time to time. for bio i also used some index cards for memorization.

Yep. I used this exact same method. I have a notebook with everything I've ever gotten wrong or confused me for all the sciences, even math.

No good doing a practice test if you take the same test 2 weeks later and make the same mistake because you only looked it over once.
 
Hey congrats for great scores =)
Do we have to memorize Avogadro's Number, Planck's Constant, etc. for Gen Chem or we are given these constants on the actual exam?

Thanks
 
heres the story. as im sure youve heard the DAT has gotten very conceptual and moved away from calculations. but if destroyer is your DAT bible (it is for me) then you want to know how to do all the calculations it wants you to know. so i did memorize all three. theyre not hard to remember. look, in all likelyhood, if your takin it soon, you dont need to know them, but im the better safe than sorry type.
 
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