Yeah, the problem I have with it is that this studying with FC MD just takes too long now. I can't afford to spend 3 hours a day on FC, you know. I felt that with Legacy, it maybe wasn't drilling you as much with questions, but it still accomplished more or less the same thing.
Why do you like Legacy more?
You're already late to the game bro! Now you'll never match ENT!I'm an M1 that just took my first exam, should I be starting FC? Im pretty confused by it and what it is, can anyone offer some guidance? I am aiming for something competitive so would like 250+
You're already late to the game bro! Now you'll never match ENT!
Don't worry about it until the summer between first and second year at the very least, but preferably sometime during your second year. It doesn't do you much good to use the application if you haven't even seen much of the material. First year biochem and such isn't as heavily represented as the basic science from organ systems. Relax and focus on doing well in your initial studies during first year for now. That'll help you prepare far more than worrying about the various resources for Step prep.Can you please offer something constructive?
I'm an M1 that just took my first exam, should I be starting FC? Im pretty confused by it and what it is, can anyone offer some guidance? I am aiming for something competitive so would like 250+
Sorry, I couldn't resist. Honestly, I personally believe starting from day 1 is what you need to do, that's why i made that joke. It's a spaced repetition program to help you remember things you've covered in class (and most of it is the important need to know things). Some people say to start after M1 summer or beginning of M2, but the people I know who did that are really struggling now to get things flagged. If you have 50+% of firecracker flagged by the time you start M2 your life will be so much easier. I didn't get through that much (39%) by the start of M2, and now I'm at 57%. My friends are sitting at like 15-20% and most of them wish they started day 1. Unless you plan on spending 4-5 hours/day on firecracker during M2, I'd suggest getting it now. I'm sure the bigshots that have taken the real deal already would agree. @abolt18 @mcloaf and companyCan you please offer something constructive?
Can't really disagree with anything you're saying. Starting earlier makes it easier no doubt. If you wait to start until M2 it can certainly still be useful but probably only if you use it in a more targeted manner rather than planning to do the entire thing.Sorry, I couldn't resist. Honestly, I personally believe starting from day 1 is what you need to do, that's why i made that joke. It's a spaced repetition program to help you remember things you've covered in class (and most of it is the important need to know things). Some people say to start after M1 summer or beginning of M2, but the people I know who did that are really struggling now to get things flagged. If you have 50+% of firecracker flagged by the time you start M2 your life will be so much easier. I didn't get through that much (39%) by the start of M2, and now I'm at 57%. My friends are sitting at like 15-20% and most of them wish they started day 1. Unless you plan on spending 4-5 hours/day on firecracker during M2, I'd suggest getting it now. I'm sure the bigshots that have taken the real deal already would agree. @abolt18 @mcloaf and company
So you think it is worth the 400 dollars a year? Also, am I supposed to keep up with class material and be honoring (90+ percent on exams) while I spend a few hours on GT a day? Because in order to honor while I spend 2-3 hours doing GT a day I would literally need to study 13 hours a day. Is that normal?
Sorry, I couldn't resist. Honestly, I personally believe starting from day 1 is what you need to do, that's why i made that joke. It's a spaced repetition program to help you remember things you've covered in class (and most of it is the important need to know things). Some people say to start after M1 summer or beginning of M2, but the people I know who did that are really struggling now to get things flagged. If you have 50+% of firecracker flagged by the time you start M2 your life will be so much easier. I didn't get through that much (39%) by the start of M2, and now I'm at 57%. My friends are sitting at like 15-20% and most of them wish they started day 1. Unless you plan on spending 4-5 hours/day on firecracker during M2, I'd suggest getting it now. I'm sure the bigshots that have taken the real deal already would agree. @abolt18 @mcloaf and company
Ugh, I'm envious. We have idiosyncratic tests written by various professors with material that averages half relevance as evidenced by our performance on our optional NBME subject practice exams offered after each block. We end up needing to compensate on our own while maintaining coverage of lectures because we're also one of the very few schools left with actual letter grades. :/. . .
Firecracker scheduling is also VERY dependent on your school and your personal goals. My school works perfectly with Firecracker because ALL (or >95%) of our exams are strictly NBME Customized Exams (Your school can buy access to NBME retired bank). Because of that, I NEVER watch any lectures, nor do I even look at them except to figure out what I need to look up in Board Review Sources. I pretty much just learn from Pathoma/Sketchy Micro/First-Aid /and then Flag and learn the extra stuff that Firecracker usually has and this has worked great for Exams. I'm pretty much just studying for STEP1 day in and out lol.
I could see firecracker becoming a problem if #1 You don't have a strict P/F school AND you care about grades- Often times, Board Review Books/First Aid/Firecracker will cover material your classes don't (or don't emphasize) but have tons of materials that aren't really yield for Step1 (so you'll end up learning more overall if you try to do both FC and School-which is obviously a pain when time is already so limited).
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Ok so whats the consensus. Legacy or FC MD?
I'll chime in on MD vs legacy.
The theory behind MD is solid, and in execution I think it works reasonably well. However, it is obnoxious that the "cards per day" is not adaptive, as in the cards/day does not fluctuate based on progress and also does not consider previous work. I've used FC since day 1 and I have the same cards/day as someone who sets the same goal score of 250 who picks up the program at any point in their studies. This makes the "goal" seem very superficial and I have a hard time believing the number is based off of any data.
Regardless, if you use it consistently and focus on learning the material MD works well.
You're failing to recognize that 250 cards a day is TOO LOW once you are past a fair amount content (>60% flagged etc). I think this is a problem with current Firecracker MD. Look at all the old posters that were on the Firecracker Legacy program. The lowest Cards/Day assigned that I saw with anyone above >80% flagged was 350, and he had phenomenal Mastery % (80ish% Which means he had 80% of his cards at a 4/5 level). Realistically, I think this 250 cards/day is a hindrance. I have roughly 10,000 topics/cards at 50% flagged, if I was at 100% and rated every single card a 5 (probably will never happen), I would have to wait 40 Days before seeing a single card again, likely MUCH longer since I'll be posting tons of 2s,3s,4s, which will backlog the 5's up to a certain point. Even things I know perfectly well right now get foggy when I haven't seen them for a month.
I wasn't implying that 250 cards was too high. I am essentially agreeing with exactly what you're saying, in that the static 250 number may not be sufficient to accomplish what their program aims to accomplish. I am saying that the number of cards to do per day should change based on past performance. It sounds like you want more out of FC than I do. I don't expect to be able to rate everything a 4 or 5 at any point. I use it to review recently covered class material and as a way to brush through old topics I haven't seen in awhile.
I'm actually 100% flagged (with ~91% mastery) and my cards per day is getting lower by the day (250's now, was around 300's for the past few weeks). Granted, in order to reach 100% I had to go a few weeks (about 1-2 months ago) where my average cards per day roamed around ~450's-500's. I believe 250 cards per day is a reasonable amount if you're not flagging/marking massively.
I'm actually 100% flagged (with ~91% mastery) and my cards per day is getting lower by the day (250's now, was around 300's for the past few weeks). Granted, in order to reach 100% I had to go a few weeks (about 1-2 months ago) where my average cards per day roamed around ~450's-500's. I believe 250 cards per day is a reasonable amount if you're not flagging/marking massively.
That is ridiculous lol. I thought I should be impressed with myself trying to get 100% flagged by January so I'd have 4-5 months for straight review, but that's &%$@ing insaneI'm actually 100% flagged (with ~91% mastery) and my cards per day is getting lower by the day (250's now, was around 300's for the past few weeks). Granted, in order to reach 100% I had to go a few weeks (about 1-2 months ago) where my average cards per day roamed around ~450's-500's. I believe 250 cards per day is a reasonable amount if you're not flagging/marking massively.
As much as you can. If you have 60-70% that's awesome. I got lazy and finished with about 40%, now I'm at~ 60% and made a schedule so I'd finish by end of Winter breakWhat do you guys think is a good amount to have flagged by the end of the M1 year? ~60-70%? Organs based curriculum.
This will serve you well!As much as you can. If you have 60-70% that's awesome. I got lazy and finished with about 40%, now I'm at~ 60% and made a schedule so I'd finish by end of Winter break
I don't think it is worth it 3 months out honestly. It's more of a long term tool. There are like 16,000 cards. you'd be lucky to even see most of them twice if you went hard on themThinking about using Firecracker in the spring for step1 review. Would it be too "late" to start it only a few months before the exam? My goal is to have a tool to help review material as I read through First Aid.
Would it be better to just make my own flashcards using Anki or another flashcard app?
Did you guys every stratify somehow by yield? By that I mean perhaps some of the anatomy is lower yield than...pathophys for example, and the former may be very detailed, but you still marked it higher than you would normally just so you could see other stuff more, or perhaps mark path slightly more conservatively (lower) so you could really nail it down? Or did you feel that the anatomy on FC is well done and should be focused on regardless? JW
But that's after being 100% flagged for awhile now right? Essentially you're just looking at old cards and not being diluted down by flagging new cards and spending tons of time repeating them. Would you mind breaking down your cards per day (maybe by 10-20% flags) from 50% onwards? How much of your Firecracker experience had you at 300-350cards/day and over?
Thanks!
Out of curiosity, when did you start with FC and how long did it take to get 100% flagged? I started this year as an M2 and seem to be adding topics at a snail's pace. I'm currently at ~200 topics flagged with about 900 more to go.
That is ridiculous lol. I thought I should be impressed with myself trying to get 100% flagged by January so I'd have 4-5 months for straight review, but that's &%$@ing insane
I have been a user of FC for over 2.5 years.. With all the FC MD vs Legacy stuff going on..
All i can say is..
Use Anki.. its way better.. You need o make your own cards.. but is way better than these frequent ALGO changes these guys do.
Anyone used Firecracker in a school that has letter grades? Were you able to manage FC? Using FC cost you significantly in grades? Any thoughts on how to make it work from day one is appreciated!! thx
Anyone used Firecracker in a school that has letter grades? Were you able to manage FC? Using FC cost you significantly in grades? Any thoughts on how to make it work from day one is appreciated!! thx
Unfortunately, we're one of 23 allo schools left on a pre-clin curriculum with an actual ABCF letter system (also with the usual numerical rank). Our course exams vary between seemingly low relevance to highly relevant and spot-on (praise be unto one particular prof, omg, so spot-on w/so many step diamonds and strategies). Thankfully, we recently instituted a free, optional NBME subject exam to assess our grasps of the organs after each system block, which has helped me narrow my FC focus, albeit much later than our peers here (currently only have one block left after Xmas before dedicated begins in March).Anyone used Firecracker in a school that has letter grades? Were you able to manage FC? Using FC cost you significantly in grades? Any thoughts on how to make it work from day one is appreciated!! thx
Consistently legit perspective here.My school is H/HP/P and I am neurotic enough to care about grades 😛, I started FC 1/3 through the second semester. I was taking Biochem, Physio, Neuro, and Immuno. I found it very difficult to keep up with FC and Schoolwork and pretty much only flagged physio and some biochem topics essentially ignoring immuno and biochem because of a lack of time. My physio course was all NBME tests though so it correlated well with FC content and i could ignore lectures. For the average medical student, or even strong medical student, I don't think it is possible to do well in coursework (like Honors/A) and keep up with firecracker flagging and cards for every subject without extreme extreme time commitments. Often time, lecture material has poor correlation with FC/Board exam review material, most of the stuff I had to know for lectures was not in FC/First Aids, and tons of stuff in FC/First Aid was not required for school-based exams. This pretty much increased the total content I needed to learn by an unmanageable amount. If I were in a graded school, I would pick 1-2 HY classes/semester (Physio!) and just focus on flagging those and not missing days. Then just catch up over breaks and summer. Or you can go along with everything in your coursework and tell yourself something like "I'm only going to learn and flag the 50% highest yield topics" or something like that. Try it out for yourself though, maybe your school correlates well in board review material. If not, I think its better to just focus on a few FC subjects and get them down pat/never skip Firecracker cards/day rather than trying to flag everything , running behind on school exams, and skipping weeks of firecracker at a time (like i did)
This is also some legit advice I'd second in retrospect.Yeah... I unfortunately had letter grades and numerical rank.
I did about 1.5hrs of FC every morning during 2nd year, usually 6:30-8AM before classes started. I had the whole day after that. It was a great routine and eventually became and almost addicting way to start the day.
I was slightly more relaxed using it M1. I stayed within the top 5% and a lot of that is thanks to maintained FC use. A lot of topics come back again and again or in different ways such as physio/micro appearing in path, for example.
Any motivational stories of firecracker usage and high step 1 scores? I need some motivation to keep slogging through second year...
Look back at posts in this thread by @kirbymiester, mcloaf, and others. They seem to have done well using Firecracker.
Edit: Here's what mcloaf posted a few pages back. http://forums.studentdoctor.net/thr...d-scores-thread.1104788/page-27#post-16485409
Thanks! It was a grind but posts by you and the other folks from your testing cycle were great motivation and super insightful when I had to put my plan together. Now that I'm in the bowels of M3 it seems so long ago...Sup. I'd be happy to discuss FC, just shoot me a PM. I'm not too familiar with the MD/DO interface, but can discuss general strategies.
Also @mcloaf: Congrats on the mid-260 dude. I remember seeing you around this thread back when I was an MS2. Super happy for you.
As much as you can. If you have 60-70% that's awesome. I got lazy and finished with about 40%, now I'm at~ 60% and made a schedule so I'd finish by end of Winter break
After winter break all we have is neuro, msk, psych, and behavioral. A lot of the MSK stuff I've seen before and behavioral and psych I think will be an easy task. The biggest worry for me I think is neuro and finishing all the micro (antimicrobials, etc.)Dang, you gonna try and learn all second semester path/pharm etc over winter break? I'm wondering if I should finish the rest of things I didn't flag before M2 (25% Anatomy and all Embryo+random things I missed over M2 1st semester), Flag new stuff and get ahead, or just do a lot of questions with what I have and get mastery down since I definitely dont have good mastery. Ex, flagged all virology in 1 week (crammed), flagged all Resp/Most Card/All anemia in 1.5 weeks, so I really havent seen too many of these cards a ton of times.