First OMFS Externship in 1 month. Advice please!

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Hi all!


I will be going to my first externship in 1 month. Im just finishing up my D2 year and am looking for ANY advice.
I really dont want to show up and be completely useless/clueless.
Any resources you would recommend to read up on? Anything I should carry with me at all times while I'm there?

Thank you!
 
- Penlight - I recommend the Streamlight Stylus Pro LED PenLight
- Maxwell Quick Medical Reference - the pocket sized one
- Small pocket notepad to write stuff down
- Snack bars in case you don't have time to eat

- Brush up on some anatomy for when you get pimped
- Read: Externship Guide | AccessOMFS
 
- Penlight - I recommend the Streamlight Stylus Pro LED PenLight
- Maxwell Quick Medical Reference - the pocket sized one
- Small pocket notepad to write stuff down
- Snack bars in case you don't have time to eat

- Brush up on some anatomy for when you get pimped
- Read: Externship Guide | AccessOMFS

Great link on the bottom there, I hadn't seen that before. I agree with everything they mention there. In terms of reading or resources, OMS secrets is a great book with a lot of familiar pimping questions. When it comes to reading for cases, Approaches to the Facial Skeleton (Ellis and Zide) is excellent. It's a worthwhile book to have in hardcover and can be bought in the older (1st or 2nd) version used on amazon (~$35 for first edition). That book will cover most of the basics in terms of anatomy and techniques for I'd say 95% of what you'll see in the OR on externships. AO website has some useful photos and information as well that can be found via google.

Sounds cliche but don't forget to have a good time! You get a unique opportunity as a dental student to spend some time seeing (and doing) some very cool things. It's honestly okay to be excited and enthusiastic, I don't think that has ever been frowned upon at our program. Just don't be cocky. I see everyone recommend that but some people just can't hide it for more than a day or two. It's infuriating and will definitely affect the impression you leave on the program.
 
In my experience always carry your pen light, tongue blades and gauze packs in your pocket, it's always helpful to have them on hand when doing rounds with the residents, if you think they might need something grab it, and have it on hand; try to see what pattern they follow and anticipate their needs (IE, do they do hands off exmaniations of the patients in the hospital, or do they glove up and check them all, have the Pen light shining before they ask for it, and the tongue blade popped open and extended as soon as it looks like they're gonna do an examination). Comfortable shoes are a must, long hours standing and only watching is terrible for the soles.

Read up on all the faculty and residents before hand, show up with some idea about what the program does and what type of cases they do (Cancer? Trauma?) Be familiar with the instrument names, at least the extraction kit, in case you're assisting and they ask you to pass the Seldin, or something you'd better know what it is. Don't be over bearing to the residents at busy times, try to be tactful when asking questions about your own position and what to aim for (GPD, scores, etc), try to get to know the residents first, ask where they graduated from, find some common ground etc.

You'll probably be expected to take call a couple times with the residents (usually it'll be a 1st year on their own unless something big comes in), this is a good chance to get to know them, they're still fresh out of school and will likely have the most compassion towards you. This is also another opportunity to learn a lot, especially if you're seeing any ED treatment of trauma (facial lacs, mandibles, infections etc); and you'll likely be able to help a lot more in these situations since the interns usually have no one with them, be prepared to help set-up some quick Lac kits (sutures, iodine swabs, gauze, gloves, suture kits etc); since if you're at a busy hospital you can go through 3 or four of these a night easily.

It sucks that you're expected to know a lot more than you have any right to, and you're supposed to be everywhere while also being out of the way, but that's the nature of an externship; personally I found them tedious towards the tail end, (especially the hands off ones), just because there's not much to do besides stand and watch. But they're a good way to see the life of a resident, and get to know a lot about programs you're interested in.

It's not a requirement but it doesn't hurt to get something for the residents/faculty as a thank you on your last day (cookies, donuts, etc), just as a thank you.
 
Thank you so much guys! This is super helpful.
There's definitely a lot more that goes into going on an externship than I would have thought.
Again, Thank you!!

Did you guys ever encounter any mean behavior towards you from residents/attending? How did you handle it?
 
Thank you so much guys! This is super helpful.
There's definitely a lot more that goes into going on an externship than I would have thought.
Again, Thank you!!

Did you guys ever encounter any mean behavior towards you from residents/attending? How did you handle it?

Not that I can remember, no one wants their program portrayed as malignant, word spreads fast in a small community and having a negative impression goes a long way in attracting applicants.
 
Thank you so much guys! This is super helpful.
There's definitely a lot more that goes into going on an externship than I would have thought.
Again, Thank you!!

Did you guys ever encounter any mean behavior towards you from residents/attending? How did you handle it?
Never from any true residents or attendings. At most just indifference to your existence "just another extern". I have heard some bad stories about other externs trying to show each other up, by not conveying information orb just trying to ourshine you, a dick move but it's not common, and smart residents will notice this and it will backfire.

The only bad experience I've had was with non-cats kind of trying to make me feel had as an extern, because it's the competition mentality I guess.
 
Ok thank you so much for your answers again!
Definitely helpful. 🙂 😍
 
Hi all!


I will be going to my first externship in 1 month. Im just finishing up my D2 year and am looking for ANY advice.
I really dont want to show up and be completely useless/clueless.
Any resources you would recommend to read up on? Anything I should carry with me at all times while I'm there?

Thank you!

Be pro active. Try to jump into as many procedures as possible. Don't be shy in doing difficult procedures. Don't worry about making mistakes. Mistakes are part of learning and growth.
 
This is actually hard sometimes. The extern is supposed to learn as much as possible from the program and make a good impression by following and assisting the residents and attendings throughout the day. It can be extremely weird or creepy following someone around all day, and watching every move, even when they do consultations, write notes, (screw up with patients, maybe,) see attendings chewing residents out, eating, etc.
Follow the resident even when they eat? That sounds weird...
 
This is actually hard sometimes. The extern is supposed to learn as much as possible from the program and make a good impression by following and assisting the residents and attendings throughout the day. It can be extremely weird or creepy following someone around all day, and watching every move, even when they do consultations, write notes, (screw up with patients, maybe,) see attendings chewing residents out, eating, etc.
Reminds me one of my externships, I was following one of the residents around only to discover they were going to the bathroom.
 
Every externship is a little different. Some are more structured than others. At one I was shuttled all over and was always with a resident. At another I had to travel around by myself and ate meals alone. It can be confusing and awkward because you don't really have a defined 'role' to fill in the hospital, you're just sort of an outsider trying not to get in the way. Just complete your externships and put them on your CV and write a small summary of each so you can discuss them on your interviews - most of all just be respectful and courteous to them while displaying some interest in what's going on. Other than that you don't really need any special tools, equipment, or skills.
 
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