Florida crna independent bill passes state house vote by large margin 77-30 today April 3 2025

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House Bill 649 (2025) - The Florida Senate

www.flsenate.gov

Guess if desantis signs it. And it can become law July 1 2025.

True surgery centers goes all crna first. But frankly crnas are pricing themselves out of the market all making $300/hr plus in independent practices and demanding their own schedules.

Hospitals will have to think about it.

 

[CopaceticOne]

Florida going to be ripe for insurance companies to decrease reimbursement rates for CRNA only care?

I mean what are the optics going to be for the health system if they complain and patients learn that they aren’t being cared for by DOCTORS. Heck, the insurance companies could even say they are looking out for their covered participants.

I know… wishful thinking

 

[NicholasPavona]

All 50 soon enough. Predictable.

 

[Endee]

It hasn't even been taken up by the Senate yet and the session ends in like 4 weeks. Unlikely to become law.

 

[aneftp]

It hasn't even been taken up by the Senate yet and the session ends in like 4 weeks. Unlikely to become law.

This is common how the Florida legislature acts. The time frame.

Like the huge alimony reform bill (some of my colleagues got whacked with lifetime alimony)
It passed like in the last month of April before the session ends.

Than the governor milks it to last week of June to sign it or veto it. Effective July 1.

So common time frame for bills to pass through Florida legislature.

 

[BLADEMDA]

The goal of this bill, if it becomes law, is for the CRNAs to take over all the surgicenters in the state. The head of the Florida AANA has said as much publicly. There will be some anesthesiologists who will lose their jobs if this bill become law.

 

[NicholasPavona]

The goal of this bill, if it becomes law, is for the CRNAs to take over all the surgicenters in the state. The head of the Florida AANA has said as much publicly. There will be some anesthesiologists who will lose their jobs if this bill become law.

Excellent! About time the ollies lose their stranglehold on these jobs.

 

[Katheudontas parateroumen]

If NP have independence then CRNAs will too.

 

[pgg]

People get the governments they deserve, and they're going to get the healthcare they deserve too.

 

[gator2886]

It is beyond me why anyone choses this specialty any longer. ASA ABA has failed us

 

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It is beyond me why anyone choses this specialty any longer. ASA ABA has failed us

It's not as if most fields in medicine are doing any better. Pediatricians, IM/FM without long fellowships, neurologists, PM&R, Psych etc. all are dealing with encroachment and they make 30-60% less than anesthesiologists do. As I've said before: the only definitive protection against scope creep is financial independence. It also protects against medicare for all, punitive taxes on high earners, and loss of income from disability. Lifestyle creep is just as much of a problem as scope creep for the average anesthesiologist.

 

[deleted87051]

It is beyond me why anyone choses this specialty any longer. ASA ABA has failed us

Are there any other specialties where you can sign up for a 600k+ job anywhere/everywhere in the country after 4 years of residency?

 

[cockblockandrun]

Are there any other specialties where you can sign up for a 600k+ job anywhere/everywhere in the country after 4 years of residency?

There will be surgery centers that will want to go to an all CRNA model but I suspect there will be pushback from some surgeons and won't be as widespread as some fear.
Anesthesia is still a great field with a lot of opportunities. Maybe the >$1m per year PP gigs are gone but 12 weeks vacation and making >$550-600 coming out of residency is pretty swell if you ask me.

 

[aneftp]

There will be surgery centers that will want to go to an all CRNA model but I suspect there will be pushback from some surgeons and won't be as widespread as some fear.
Anesthesia is still a great field with a lot of opportunities. Maybe the >$1m per year PP gigs are gone but 12 weeks vacation and making >$550-600 coming out of residency is pretty swell if you ask me.

Always consider workload.

You guys always talk money. I talk workload and money and time off.

Anyone can make 650-700k even for napa amc w2 these days. But u are gonna to work ur butt off for that. You do not want to be working like that.

You want easy, easy money, easy work load, time off. 1:2/3 staffing most days. Or solo and leaving by 11am.

Agree very few private places make 1 million these days due to reimbursement cuts and income is heavily dependent on subsidies.

 

[rick roller pump]

I live in an opt out state. Still tons of good high paying jobs. One big problem though is that most of the easy cush jobs are CRNA only. Not a problem for me now, but I think it will be harder and harder to find a chill retirement gig.

 

[cockblockandrun]

Always consider workload.

You guys always talk money. I talk workload and money and time off.

Anyone can make 650-700k even for napa amc w2 these days. But u are gonna to work ur butt off for that. You do not want to be working like that.

You want easy, easy money, easy work load, time off. 1:2/3 staffing most days. Or solo and leaving by 11am.

Agree very few private places make 1 million these days due to reimbursement cuts and income is heavily dependent on subsidies.

For sure working for an AMC like NAPA or Northstar will be brutal.
But there are hospital jobs right now offering CA-3's 550k, 10-12 weeks vacay, great call schedule, call beginning at 3pm or 7pm until 7am with post-call day off, etc. Seeing this in many of the states I work at so perhaps a trend.

 

[cockblockandrun]

I live in an opt out state. Still tons of good high paying jobs. One big problem though is that most of the easy cush jobs are CRNA only. Not a problem for me now, but I think it will be harder and harder to find a chill retirement gig.

I also work in a few opt out states- Eye and endo centers are typically the most impacted. I don't see that many major hospitals and surgery centers going into an all CRNA model. Also many places will accommodate for those looking for a chill retirement gig- have them cover endo lol.