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Hi, could anyone explain the foldable ruler technique. I think I have an idea of it, but I am not too confident about it. Please give a step by step intructions. Thanks..
joooj86 said:i tried it and it wasnt that accurate because u are kind of neglecting the origin of the angle and if u are comparing angles within a 5 degree difference it is pretty tough to actually get it right. What i think is easier is to simply hold a sheet of paper against the screen and simply trace the angle then move the paper over another angle and simply compare them. I am not sure if they allow you to do that and if the paper they give u is the regular paper that you will be able to see thru..Any ideas?
fob12 said:Hi, could anyone explain the foldable ruler technique. I think I have an idea of it, but I am not too confident about it. Please give a step by step intructions. Thanks..
Sephisabin said:When I took the DAT, the paper was so thick that there was no way you would be able to see through it. Additionally, they had cameras overlooking every computer and a guy assigned to watch over them. Basically, I don't think you would be able to get away with holding any papers up to the screen or anything like that. However, I did come upon one trick that might be useful to you guys. I'm going to try to explain it through example... it's the only way it'll make sense. Get out a paper and pen and do the following:
1) Draw an angle that's small.... 15 to 30 degrees...
2) Next to it, draw one that's larger... 60 to 90 degrees...
3) Now, ignore the legs of the angle and look only at the apex/vertex/corner-dealy of the angle. Notice how when the legs come together to form the vertex, there is an area where the legs sort of blend into one line. That line is longer for the smaller angle than for the bigger one. This will apply to the computer as well, but you'll have one more advantage: You can actually count how many pixels constitute the vertex.
That's the technique I used. It is really quick and I finished the PAT section so quickly that I had enough time to do the entire thing again and make sure everything was right. I got a 25.
Sephisabin said:When I took the DAT, the paper was so thick that there was no way you would be able to see through it. Additionally, they had cameras overlooking every computer and a guy assigned to watch over them. Basically, I don't think you would be able to get away with holding any papers up to the screen or anything like that. However, I did come upon one trick that might be useful to you guys. I'm going to try to explain it through example... it's the only way it'll make sense. Get out a paper and pen and do the following:
1) Draw an angle that's small.... 15 to 30 degrees...
2) Next to it, draw one that's larger... 60 to 90 degrees...
3) Now, ignore the legs of the angle and look only at the apex/vertex/corner-dealy of the angle. Notice how when the legs come together to form the vertex, there is an area where the legs sort of blend into one line. That line is longer for the smaller angle than for the bigger one. This will apply to the computer as well, but you'll have one more advantage: You can actually count how many pixels constitute the vertex.
That's the technique I used. It is really quick and I finished the PAT section so quickly that I had enough time to do the entire thing again and make sure everything was right. I got a 25.
that's because the resolution on your computer is really high. on the real dat, they're either 640x480 or 800x600. All you see are pixels. 😛lisat said:I tried using your pixel counting method with DAT achiever's PAT 1, but I couldn't see any pixels. Are the real exam angles more pixellated (sp)?
Thanks,
Lisa
lisat said:I tried using your pixel counting method with DAT achiever's PAT 1, but I couldn't see any pixels. Are the real exam angles more pixellated (sp)?
Thanks,
Lisa
heyitscyndi said:When you say count the pixels, what am I looking for? For example, more pixels = smaller angle or what? Can someone please explain, thanx =)
Sephisabin said:Yeah, more pixels is a smaller angle. v ^ See how the V has more pixels at the origin/apex of the angle than the ^ does? That means the V is a smaller angle. You may not be able to actually count the pixels on your computer, but you can just look at the size of the area where the 2 lines are actually in contact. The bigger that area, the smaller the angle.
teefRcool said:sweet is this how the angles look on the real pat are the lines that thick?
miravyn said:I used the foldable ruler to check over a few of my answers when I had finished going through all the PAT problems. No one came in to tell me to knock it off so I didn't think it was a problem. Don't they usually give tester a warning so that the tester knows to not do that again. I suppose if someone was using a protractor, then that should be considering cheating. But, we should be allowed to do whatever we want with the scratch paper provided. I even used a piece of square paper to help me with the hole punching.
My testing center told me NOT to use a foldable ruler or put anything on the screen. So, if your testing center is like mine. It is to your benefit to practice without this foldable ruler technique.Pelotari said:So, then you can actually place a piece of scratch paper on the screen, not to trace but to help you visualize better (kind of like an artist putting his/her thumb up next to their painting subject) 😉 👍 ? Does anyone know the official do's / don'ts for the PAT? 😕
Richnator said:My testing center told me NOT to use a foldable ruler or put anything on the screen. So, if your testing center is like mine. It is to your benefit to practice without this foldable ruler technique.