For those of you who dropped out of medical school, what are you doing now?

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Ya uber is huge down there. At least where I was around mexico city area. Cheap too. Half hour uber drive across town was like $4 U.S.

Yeah except if they know you're American they drive in circles half the time...

Enjoy kissing a** and buying lunch?

Who doesn't enjoy buying lunch?
 
Yeah except if they know you're American they drive in circles half the time...

Wow is that a thing? I bought at least 100 uber rides down there and had only one time where I thought they might've taken an unnecessarily long route. I speak the language but still obviously american. I was not in a touristy area though which I suppose may impact that.
 
Ortho sales reps arguably deserve the six figures. From my short stint in the OR, the reps in the unit would be side to side with the surgeon offering product details on hip/knee replacements and were utilized as a source of feedback when it came to deciding which product would be the best fit for the patient. Not to mention, their attitude and mannerisms are there to sell. You can't really risk the possibility of having a "bad day" as an ortho rep and having a doctor complain about your demeanor or approach. There is a reason why a lot of sales reps are athletes, their mentality is to maintain the sale and to score new orders with other physicians based on their charisma and personality.
 
Yeah except if they know you're American they drive in circles half the time...

The app sets the price before you even get in the car. If they drive in circles they are wasting their own time and gas. With Uber the drivers optimize their income by getting you from point A to point B ASAP so they can pick up the next ride.
 
The app sets the price before you even get in the car. If they drive in circles they are wasting their own time and gas. With Uber the drivers optimize their income by getting you from point A to point B ASAP so they can pick up the next ride.
Are you sure about this? I've definitely gotten charged more than the original listed price. Maybe if they just drive slow along the marked route it doesn't change but if they switch to a different, longer route (ie. Because one road is closed, traffic jam, etc.) I think it compensates them
 
Ortho sales reps arguably deserve the six figures. From my short stint in the OR, the reps in the unit would be side to side with the surgeon offering product details on hip/knee replacements and were utilized as a source of feedback when it came to deciding which product would be the best fit for the patient. Not to mention, their attitude and mannerisms are there to sell. You can't really risk the possibility of having a "bad day" as an ortho rep and having a doctor complain about your demeanor or approach. There is a reason why a lot of sales reps are athletes, their mentality is to maintain the sale and to score new orders with other physicians based on their charisma and personality.

I love my reps. They make life in the OR so good (just as a bad rep can make it miserable). It certainly helps me that 95% of them are men. I get so much free food and coffee... it’s a miracle I’m not 300 lbs and hypertensive.


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Are you sure about this? I've definitely gotten charged more than the original listed price. Maybe if they just drive slow along the marked route it doesn't change but if they switch to a different, longer route (ie. Because one road is closed, traffic jam, etc.) I think it compensates them


I stand corrected. I have not had the experience but it is possible.

From help.uber.com

“How are fares calculated?
Depending on the city where you ride with Uber, trip fares may be calculated upfront or immediately after rides end. Here's how these two types of fares work.

UPFRONT FARES
With upfront pricing, you know the exact cost of your trip before requesting. This fare includes (but is not limited to):
-A base rate
-Rates for estimated time and distance of the route
-The current demand for rides in the area

A booking fee and any applicable surcharges, fees, and tolls are also calculated and included.

When you request a ride, you agree to be charged the upfront fare when the trip ends. Your fare may increase if you travel to a different destination or make extra stops along the route, or the trip takes much longer than expected.

If an upfront fare is not honored, you will either be charged the minimum fare or a fare based on the measured time and distance for your trip, including any base fare, booking fee, surcharges, tolls, and other relevant factors such as a dynamic pricing charge.

You'll always get a receipt for any trip fare. If your fare is different than the upfront fare you agreed to, your receipt will explain why.

POST-TRIP FARES
Some cities do not provide upfront fares. Instead, you're charged either a minimum fare or a fare based on the time and distance for your trip's route, including a base fare, booking fee, surcharges, tolls, and other relevant factors such as dynamic pricing when demand for rides is high in the area of the city where you're requesting a ride. Fares may vary by location, the vehicle option you select, and other factors.
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One of my classmates dropped out and is now a researcher. She does stuff with autism. I'm not sure if she went back for Master's/PhD, but she definitely does research.

Another is a CPA.
 
That’s actually really sad to hear. How much do they earn? $15/hr? With a MD degree?

Sounds about right. From what I've seen, those with a degree try to get into residency for a few years until they're too far out, after which they just climb the corporate ladder at whatever company they're in. They're usually the super unpleasant head scribe thats been working there for 3-4 years.
 
My good friend dropped out during MS2 after deciding he was not really passionate about it -- now he works at a hedge fund and makes major coin... however, he had a knack for finance and he had this opportunity lined up before making the decision to drop out... If you are considering dropping out, I would not do so unless you have a strong backup plan
 
I knew a guy who dropped out after first year to work on cars. Like, not even building racecars or anything, but changing oil at jiffy lube level. I mentioned this to a mechanic years later who laughed and laughed.

Post above about having a good exit strategy is on point. Hmm, lets see you can make $500k/year and work in a comfortable clinic and wear nice clean clothes and occasionally deal with some administrative b.s. or annoying patient or you can permanently have black **** under your nails, bleeding knuckles, and aching joints, and be on the verge of bankruptcy at any given moment. I can only imagine the mental anguish that dude is going to have when he is 50 and looks back on that decision. There were so many times I almost dropped out, and I am so glad I hung in there.
 
Like that one dude that still hangs around the high school tryna pick up chicks...
Alright, Alright..
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You also have to have exceptional social skills and charisma. Every REP I see in the OR is either very good looking or have very good social skills or both.

Step 1 - be attractive
Step 2 - don't be unattractive

Wow is that a thing? I bought at least 100 uber rides down there and had only one time where I thought they might've taken an unnecessarily long route. I speak the language but still obviously american. I was not in a touristy area though which I suppose may impact that.

Yeah in the center of the city they're terrrrrrrible
 
I had one kid drop out after OMSII to play in a band.

Another is driving for UPS.

I think another went into teaching.

One left because she was homesick. Don't know what became of her.

Mine has always been to become a ski bum.... teach ski/board and live somewhere remote.

Mrs would probably just bury me in snow, and that would be that.
 
Mine has always been to become a ski bum.... teach ski/board and live somewhere remote.

Mrs would probably just bury me in snow, and that would be that.
Best is to move between south and north America every year, otherwise you only have income for half the year . I met an instructor in Colorado who hadn't seen a summer in over 20 years
 
I also met someone who is a fly fishing guide and ski instructor. Spent 300+ days/year outside. 😀
People like that make you realize medicine is far from the top of the job totem pole
 
I knew a guy who dropped out after first year to work on cars. Like, not even building racecars or anything, but changing oil at jiffy lube level. I mentioned this to a mechanic years later who laughed and laughed.

Post above about having a good exit strategy is on point. Hmm, lets see you can make $500k/year and work in a comfortable clinic and wear nice clean clothes and occasionally deal with some administrative b.s. or annoying patient or you can permanently have black **** under your nails, bleeding knuckles, and aching joints, and be on the verge of bankruptcy at any given moment. I can only imagine the mental anguish that dude is going to have when he is 50 and looks back on that decision. There were so many times I almost dropped out, and I am so glad I hung in there.
I actually used to consider dropping out of college and becoming a mechanic. It's very satisfying, logical work, tbh. But it would've absolutely sucked trying to make my way in that field as a woman. Good thing I decided to try and become a surgeon instead...
 
Don’t be so judgements, dude. The simple life is where it’s at, and not everyone wants to be a doctor... especially a doctor working in some boring-ass clinic environment.

I knew a guy who dropped out after first year to work on cars. Like, not even building racecars or anything, but changing oil at jiffy lube level. I mentioned this to a mechanic years later who laughed and laughed.

Post above about having a good exit strategy is on point. Hmm, lets see you can make $500k/year and work in a comfortable clinic and wear nice clean clothes and occasionally deal with some administrative b.s. or annoying patient or you can permanently have black **** under your nails, bleeding knuckles, and aching joints, and be on the verge of bankruptcy at any given moment. I can only imagine the mental anguish that dude is going to have when he is 50 and looks back on that decision. There were so many times I almost dropped out, and I am so glad I hung in there.
 
I had a great year academically MS1, and I love the science, but the snowflakes are really, really on my nerves and the opportunity cost for me is over 150k per year with less BS.

Today's (mandatory) (2 hour) training was about how you need to obtain explicit verbal consent from a friend after dinner before giving them a hug because its sexual harassment otherwise. This is why I don't socialize with people from my program.

50/50 I don't start MS2.

Things are a lot different once you hit the wards, fwiw.
 
I had a great year academically MS1, and I love the science, but the snowflakes are really, really on my nerves and the opportunity cost for me is over 150k per year with less BS.

Today's (mandatory) (2 hour) training was about how you need to obtain explicit verbal consent from a friend after dinner before giving them a hug because its sexual harassment otherwise. This is why I don't socialize with people from my program.

50/50 I don't start MS2.
Didn't go into medicine for friends, went into it for the pts. Plus we're all a bunch of weirdos anyways. Med school peers are definitely not a good reason to quit school.
 
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