formula used for screening?

[aspiring20]

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when medical schools conduct their preliminary screening to decide which apps go straight to the garbage bin, do they consider cGPA, sGPA, or MCAT?

do most places use some sort of formula (similar to the LizzyM formula) and take into consideration of all three?

say a hypothetical applicant has a 3.8 c/s GPA but a 28 MCAT, will he/she get auto screened out? or, take another hypothetical applicant with a 3.5/3.3 and 35 MCAT, will he/she be auto screened out?

 

[Eon]

when medical schools conduct their preliminary screening to decide which apps go straight to the garbage bin, do they consider cGPA, sGPA, or MCAT?

do most places use some sort of formula (similar to the LizzyM formula) and take into consideration of all three?

say a hypothetical applicant has a 3.8 c/s GPA but a 28 MCAT, will he/she get auto screened out? or, take another hypothetical applicant with a 3.5/3.3 and 35 MCAT, will he/she be auto screened out?

Just some anecdotal information here, but 3.5/35+ is competitive. And I believe the 28 will probably hurt him more than a 3.3/3.5 simply because the difference between 28-35 > 3.3-3.8

 

[Doctor Strange]

This is entirely school dependent. There's no one "formula" that is universal; each school uses a different algorithm to decide who to interview.

 

[aspiring20]

This is entirely school dependent. There's no one "formula" that is universal; each school uses a different algorithm to decide who to interview.

i understand that its different. but i would hope that the above two instances should be enough to get past most screenings.

 

[Fivo]

OP,

based on the content of all the threads you've made thus far, I can say with 99% certainty that you're not getting into medical school

Good luck 👍

 

[Doctor Strange]

i understand that its different. but i would hope that the above two instances should be enough to get past most screenings.

Again, it's highly variable, and it is especially tricky when it comes to an unbalanced GPA/MCAT.

 

[MedPR]

i understand that its different. but i would hope that the above two instances should be enough to get past most screenings.

Median = 3.6/32
3.8/28 is 2 LizzyM below median
3.5/35 is 2 LizzyM points above median
3.3/35 is right at median



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[Eon]

OP,

based on the content of all the threads you've made thus far, I can say with 99% certainty that you're not getting into medical school

Good luck 👍

Why rule out people based on quality of their threads instead of their posts per day count?

 

[aspiring20]

i know someone this cycle with a 3.5/3.4 and a 37 R MCAT but she had a honor code violation (academic-related, led to a semester probation) and as of the end of November, she still hasn't received a single II yet. she applied to almost 40 schools (not an exaggeration)

do schools auto trash apps marked with IAs and/or criminal convictions (regardless of the types of infractions and how competitive the app is as a whole) along with low numbers in the prelim round?

if that's the case, then there seems little incentive to even apply with an IA.

 

[Doctor Strange]

OP,

based on the content of all the threads you've made thus far, I can say with 99% certainty that you're not getting into medical school

Good luck 👍

You've gotten awfully catty ever since you got accepted. Tone it down, buddy.

 

[487806]

i know someone this cycle with a 3.5/3.4 and a 37 R MCAT but she had a honor code violation (academic-related, led to a semester probation) and as of the end of November, she still hasn't received a single II yet. she applied to almost 40 schools (not an exaggeration)

do schools auto trash apps marked with IAs and/or criminal convictions (regardless of the types of infractions and how competitive the app is as a whole) along with low numbers in the prelim round?

if that's the case, then there seems little incentive to even apply with an IA.

You're adding another factor here, so that makes it more complicated. Listen to Doctor Strange: different schools have different procedures for evaluating applicants.

 

[MedPR]

i know someone this cycle with a 3.5/3.4 and a 37 R MCAT but she had a honor code violation (academic-related, led to a semester probation) and as of the end of November, she still hasn't received a single II yet. she applied to almost 40 schools (not an exaggeration)

do schools auto trash apps marked with IAs and/or criminal convictions (regardless of the types of infractions and how competitive the app is as a whole) along with low numbers in the prelim round?

if that's the case, then there seems little incentive to even apply with an IA.

I have an IA (academic) and below a 3.1 GPA. I know URM helps balance out low stats, but I doubt it compensates much for IAs.

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[Palam]

OP,

based on the content of all the threads you've made thus far, I can say with 99% certainty that you're not getting into medical school

Good luck 👍

Dork.

 

[aspiring20]

I have an IA (academic) and below a 3.1 GPA. I know URM helps balance out low stats, but I doubt it compensates much for IAs.

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did u get asked about the IA during interviews? or did the schools just write it off?

 

[MedPR]

did u get asked about the IA during interviews? or did the schools just write it off?

I did at open file. Most were closed file though.

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[aspiring20]

You're adding another factor here, so that makes it more complicated. Listen to Doctor Strange: different schools have different procedures for evaluating applicants.

i can see that. but she hasn't gotten a single II yet and that's given great stats and close to 40 apps.

and is it normal for ppl to apply to 40 schools?? that seems pretty insane. the average number of applications at my undergrad is in the low teens, and my schools is known as a fairly good/competitive feeder school.

 

[MedPR]

i can see that. but she hasn't gotten a single II yet and that's given great stats and close to 40 apps.

and is it normal for ppl to apply to 40 schools?? that seems pretty insane. the average number of applications at my undergrad is in the low teens, and my schools is known as a fairly good/competitive feeder school.

When did she apply? 40 schools is a ton and if she applied early with those stats I highly doubt the IA is the only thing wrong with her app.

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[aspiring20]

I did at open file. Most were closed file though.

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what's the difference between open and closed file?

 

[Doctor Strange]

what's the difference between open and closed file?

It's what it sounds like. Open=interviewer has access to your file, closed= they don't know anything about you.

 

[MedPR]

It's what it sounds like. Open=interviewer has access to your file, closed= they don't know anything about you.

Yup. And then there's the in between where they have your essays but no stats or other stuff on AMCAS.

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[aspiring20]

When did she apply? 40 schools is a ton and if she applied early with those stats I highly doubt the IA is the only thing wrong with her app.

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almost all mid tier schools. i believe the highest ranked school she applied to is mayo.

some of her schools include NYMC, rosalind franklin, tulane, drexel, jefferson, loma linda, mount sinai, mayo, etc...

her ECs are all very solid, as far as i know. she didnt have a lot of research , but i doubt that's the thing since she didnt apply to research intensive schools at all. she went to the same school as i did, and she was a volunteer leader at the part of the hospital i volunteered at. she did over three years worth of clinical ECs at that hospital place, and she has a leadership role in it. i wont go into more specifics, but her ECs are above average at worst.

and she sent in her primary early june, so definitely early and broadly

 

[aspiring20]

It's what it sounds like. Open=interviewer has access to your file, closed= they don't know anything about you.

ah i see.

i am surprised that schools would interview you without knowing anything about ur stats/activities.

 

[aspiring20]

OP,

based on the content of all the threads you've made thus far, I can say with 99% certainty that you're not getting into medical school

Good luck 👍

congrats on your acceptance, but what makes you say this?

 

[MedPR]

ah i see.

i am surprised that schools would interview you without knowing anything about ur stats/activities.

The school knows your stats. The people interviewing you don't.

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[Fivo]

You've gotten awfully catty ever since you got accepted. Tone it down, buddy.

Umm what? I've been "awfully catty" since I joined this forum. I knew I was getting into medical school, it was only a matter of which one. Thanks for trying...

Dork.

mirin?

congrats on your acceptance, but what makes you say this?

I was joking, but you just make some slightly odd threads.

 

[gyngyn]

i know someone this cycle with a 3.5/3.4 and a 37 R MCAT but she had a honor code violation (academic-related, led to a semester probation) and as of the end of November, she still hasn't received a single II yet. she applied to almost 40 schools (not an exaggeration)

do schools auto trash apps marked with IAs and/or criminal convictions (regardless of the types of infractions and how competitive the app is as a whole) along with low numbers in the prelim round?

if that's the case, then there seems little incentive to even apply with an IA.

Professionalism IA's and convictions for offenses related to lying, stealing, cheating or harming people are dealbreakers in every place I've served: falling below acceptable GPA, not so much.

 

[aspiring20]

Professionalism IA's and convictions for offenses related to lying, stealing, cheating or harming people are dealbreakers in every place I've served: falling below acceptable GPA, not so much.

and what are professionalism IAs? does that include alcohol infractions, drug issues, and other miscellaneous things?

 

[aspiring20]

Umm what? I've been "awfully catty" since I joined this forum. I knew I was getting into medical school, it was only a matter of which one. Thanks for trying...



mirin?



I was joking, but you just make some slightly odd threads.

haha i see

 

[gyngyn]

and what are professionalism IAs? does that include alcohol infractions, drug issues, and other miscellaneous things?

It depends. Some schools give you an IA for normal sexual behaviors or ETOH use of any kind. This is minor.
Plagiarism, cheating on tests, fighting, property destruction, stalking...another thing entirely.

 

[aspiring20]

It depends. Some schools give you an IA for normal sexual behaviors or ETOH use of any kind. This is minor.
Plagiarism, cheating on tests, fighting, property destruction, stalking...another thing entirely.

loma linda/BYU i assume?

i'll send you a PM later

 

[plumhill]

It depends. Some schools give you an IA for normal sexual behaviors or ETOH use of any kind. This is minor.
Plagiarism, cheating on tests, fighting, property destruction, stalking...another thing entirely.

Whaaat? I know this happens at BYU but is it really that common?

 

[gyngyn]

Whaaat? I know this happens at BYU but is it really that common?

Abstinence and temperance are common components of the honor code for many schools.