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[Manifesting]

I'm an Alpha Delta Pi from the Univ. of Iowa (Alpha Beta Chapter).

Speaking from my own personal experience, sororities offer valuable leadership experience and opportunities to participate in well-organized philanthropic activities which provide enormous benefit to the intended charities. My sorority is a national supporter of the Ronald McDonald Houses, which provide home-like respite and accomodations for families of critically ill hospitalized children. I held five elected offices, including Executive Vice President, and I was proud to list my participation on my applications. I know that my active involvement in ADPi has helped me to become a stronger, more confident and more successful person. Aren't all of our experiences and organizations really what we make of them?

Not everyone feels positively about the Greek system and male social fraternities are notoriously naughty. However, it is short-sighted to pass judgement based on stereotypes and generalizations. Do what is right for you and allow others to do the same. At interviews and in other communication with adcoms, promote those EC experiences which were valuable and meaningful for you. If you were not an active contributor in the organization, Greek or other, I would not list it or bring it up at all. The flaming in previous posts is of no benefit to the original poster. My .02.

 

[evajaclynn]

haha, "help" in studying. The two frat guys in my chemE class only managed to squeak through because their house had tons of past homework assignments and tests to copy from. In a major that relies primarily on take-home work (as opposed to in-class exams) due to the complexity of the subjects covered, having that stuff lying around meant you could get any grade you wanted on the tests.

Funny, I was in a sorority, and we had 'test files', but that didn't really help, since no one else in my sorority was a ChemE. Anyways, most of our grades were based on exams, not homework, even though we spent hours doing homework every night. I definitely could not get any grade that I wanted on the tests - some of the tests, especially in design, were practically impossible, with a 75% of higher being an A. Enough of my ranting. 🙂

 

[sacrament]

http://www.forbes.com/2003/01/31/cx_dd_0131frat.html
A few facts ( I think they are nearly accurate if not completely true)
# All but 2 U.S. Presidents, since 1825, have been fraternity men.
# 57% of all Congressmen and Senators belong to a fraternity.
# 40 of the 47 Supreme Court Justices, since 1910, have been fraternity men.
# 100 of the 158 Cabinet members, since 1900, have been fraternity men.
# Of the U.S.'s 50 largest corporations, 37 are headed by fraternity men.
# 78% of the Fortune 500 chief executives are fraternity men.

And I think that everybody can agree that politicians and CEOs are classy, grade A human beings.

 

[Rogue_Leader]

 

[Premedtomed]

And I think that everybody can agree that politicians and CEOs are classy, grade A human beings.

THis is coming from somebody who describes his location as "United Theocracy of America" (you are way too critical )

 

[Cerberus]

Dont Giva Krappah

 

[Blake]

And I think that everybody can agree that politicians and CEOs are classy, grade A human beings.

Man, I'm starting to feel pity for these frat guys. I mean, I dislike them in general, but Sacrament is taking it to another level 😉

 

[sacrament]

Man, I'm starting to feel pity for these frat guys. I mean, I dislike them in general, but Sacrament is taking it to another level 😉

And I do it all for charity.

 

[leviathan]

And I do it all for charity.

 

[ajnak182]

Does anyone know what ad-comms think about greek organizations? I know there are social and professional (e.g. fraternities for philanthropy and business/chem/engineering) but is there any sort of preference or leg-up? I know the Dean of Admissions and several ad-comm members at Creighton were in Alpha Chi Sigma (Professional Chemistry) but I dunno if it really helps or not.

Getting back to the original point of this post, before all the HHHHHHAAATTTTEEEEE started getting spread around like the cheap cologne of the frat boy rapist some of you are so enamored by, in terms of extra curriculars, I don't think adcomms really care too much unless you had some incredible role/life changing experience through it. On the other hand, it surely doesn't hurt, unless you're a convicted rapist or goat thief, which in that case you're done for. Fraternity and sorority positions, from my experience, are little more than resume padding tools. The president spends hours every week explaining/hiding the reasons for parties that weren't exactly BYOB because the social chair continuously figures out ways to break school rules for party planning without getting caught while managing to almost always get caught in the process. Not exactly the most useful life experiences to put on a medical school application.

Fraternities and sororities are social organizations, not much more, not much less. But they're a helluva good time, especially if you like rape. 😀

"You listed rape twice on your application"
"I like rape"
-Blazing Saddles

 

[vhawk]

This discussion is hilarious to me...I go to a school that isnt big enough to have frats. We got about 1800 people, so I basically know every person by name, at least those in my class, and all in any science major. And yet, STILL, there are the exact same stereotypes, insecurities and jealousies at my school. I played baseball, was in nerdy things like Student Gov't and Bio/Chem club, RA, basically every type of activity, so I got a good cross-section. All the athletes think of the other kids as jealous dorks, and the jealous dorks think of the athletes as *****s who just drink to forget how *****ic they are and to nail chicks. Really, both groups are exactly the same, just trying to get as much out of their 4 years as possible, they just have different skills/aspirations. Funny how fear of the unknown colors your perception of other people...

 

[ajnak182]

This discussion is hilarious to me...I go to a school that isnt big enough to have frats. We got about 1800 people, so I basically know every person by name, at least those in my class, and all in any science major. And yet, STILL, there are the exact same stereotypes, insecurities and jealousies at my school. I played baseball, was in nerdy things like Student Gov't and Bio/Chem club, RA, basically every type of activity, so I got a good cross-section. All the athletes think of the other kids as jealous dorks, and the jealous dorks think of the athletes as *****s who just drink to forget how *****ic they are and to nail chicks. Really, both groups are exactly the same, just trying to get as much out of their 4 years as possible, they just have different skills/aspirations. Funny how fear of the unknown colors your perception of other people...

👍

 

[joy77]

Wow. There are some pretty strong opinions about Greek life posted here.

Although I wasn't the most active member of my chapter as an undergrad, I had a positive experience. Furthermore, when I moved to a new city several years after college, my sorority alum organization turned out to be a wonderful way to meet new people outside of a work setting...women of all ages who have done amazing things with their lives! We do community service projects, award scholarships to undergraduates and alums, and raise money for charitable causes. And yes, there are happy hours and other social activities, but that's only a small part of the picture.

On the original topic, I would definitely mention your fraternity/sorority on your application, but only if you are prepared to talk about how it was an important part of your college experience or your years after college.

 

[Pembleton]

This discussion is hilarious to me...I go to a school that isnt big enough to have frats. We got about 1800 people, so I basically know every person by name, at least those in my class, and all in any science major. And yet, STILL, there are the exact same stereotypes, insecurities and jealousies at my school. I played baseball, was in nerdy things like Student Gov't and Bio/Chem club, RA, basically every type of activity, so I got a good cross-section. All the athletes think of the other kids as jealous dorks, and the jealous dorks think of the athletes as *****s who just drink to forget how *****ic they are and to nail chicks. Really, both groups are exactly the same, just trying to get as much out of their 4 years as possible, they just have different skills/aspirations. Funny how fear of the unknown colors your perception of other people...

Well put, bub

 

[blebl34]

Back to topic, a few summers ago I talked with my states medical school dean. When I told him I was in a fraternity, he said thats good and a good percentage of incoming classes are greek. He then proceded to tell me he was greek in college. In summary, he said it looked good because it shows diversity and people skills.

How do you like that all you anti-greek non-socials?

 

[sacrament]

Back to topic, a few summers ago I talked with my states medical school dean. When I told him I was in a fraternity, he said thats good and a good percentage of incoming classes are greek. He then proceded to tell me he was greek in college. In summary, he said it looked good because it shows diversity and people skills.

How do you like that all you anti-greek non-socials?

hahaha. I don't think a single person in my class was greek in college. (If they were, they're keeping their mouths shut about it.) How do you like that all you pro-greek drunken rapists?

 

[Premedtomed]

hahaha. I don't think a single person in my class was greek in college. (If they were, they're keeping their mouths shut about it.) How do you like that all you pro-greek drunken rapists?

You are weird . But I respect your opinions as it seems that you have
seen the dark side of Greek life.

 

[raptorattack]

Delta Sigma Phi.

Anti-Greek sentiment is really kind of lame.