French pharmacy student looking to move to the USA

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get married to an american citizen and get a green card.
 
You can't apply for a pharmacy residency until you are a licensed pharmacist. From what I hear, it can take close to 2 years for an international grad to get licensed, if they are successful. There is no need for foreign grads. American companies will prefer to hire U.S. educated pharmacists.
 
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jadeb said:
Hi 🙂
I am a pharmacy student in France and I am looking to move to the USA after I graduate in 2 years.

I will have to get the FPGEC certificate (FPGEE + TOEFL IBT).
After that I will have to find an internship provider : I heard that it's difficult and almost impossible to get an H1B visa sponsorship from a big retail chain (CVS,Walgreens....) and even If I get it I will need luck to win the H1B hazardous lottery.

I read that there is another way for me : doing a pharmacy residency or apost-B.S. of pharmacy in an american school of pharmacy. Than it will be much more easier for me to find an internship sponsor.
(http://www.aacp.org/resources/student/Pages/ForeignStudentsandGraduates.aspx)

Do I have to apply for a pharmacy residency or for a postBS of pharmacy ?

Are my informations correct ? Can you help me please ?

Thanks and sorry for my bad english 😀
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Sorry since French don't like American, we don't like French either....so stay in your country. That's the best thing for both....
 
Are you crazy? Stay in France. You guys get a 35 hour work week and 8 weeks vacation. And you don't have to deal with 50,000 different third-party insurers. And your women are hotter. And you don't live in a country where people are sociopathic enough to think that healthcare is a luxury item.

Figure out a way to do it and I'll switch you places.
 
hows your personal hygiene?
 
I thought the FGPEC only applied to grads of foreign schools that graduated before 1998 or a year around then when the PharmD became mandatory. I guess I was mistaken.

You can also apply to an accelerated 3-year PharmD program, but I'm not sure how much they like accepting international students.
 
bacillus1 said:
I thought the FGPEC only applied to grads of foreign schools that graduated before 1998 or a year around then when the PharmD became mandatory. I guess I was mistaken.

You can also apply to an accelerated 3-year PharmD program, but I'm not sure how much they like accepting international students.
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All foreign grads have to take FPGEE. The issue is the minimum educational requirement. For those who graduated before January 2003, a 4 year degree is required, and those who graduated afterwards, a 5 year degree is required.
 
bacillus1 said:
I thought the FGPEC only applied to grads of foreign schools that graduated before 1998 or a year around then when the PharmD became mandatory. I guess I was mistaken.

You can also apply to an accelerated 3-year PharmD program, but I'm not sure how much they like accepting international students.
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The PharmD isn't as mandatory as you (or many others here) think. If there was an accredited BSc pharmacy school in the USA today, their graduates would have no trouble getting licensed in most states, as long as their program was 1+4 or 0+5 years.

I'm curious, what does a French pharmacist make? Where do they rank relative to the average Frenchman in salary? Middle? Top 25%? Top 10%?

Basically, you'll need FPGEC, whatever English requirements they want, and once satisfied, then NAPLEX and MPJE (state-by-state law stuff). Each state has its own requirements in terms of how many hours they want you to work under a pharmacist before they award you a full license.
Don't even think about getting licensed in New York State or California.
If your degree is considered a "4 year" degree, you're out of luck. Having said that, the length of your degree can be up for discussion depending on how your school system is structured. It may be a 5 or 6 year degree without you knowing it.

Best bet: Immigrate to Canada as a skilled worker if you can. They'll readily accept your 4 year degree, and let you take most tests in Canadian-French, though you might prefer to take them in English if you don't want to brush up on your 18th century French.

genesis09 said:
All foreign grads have to take FPGEE.
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Well... except for some pesky Canadians and Lebanese.
 
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The ACPE did away with the accreditation standards for the bachelors program in 2004. All states/NABP require that a U.S. grad must graduate from an ACPE accredited school before he/she can take the NAPLEX/MPJE.
 
genesis09 said:
The ACPE did away with the accreditation standards for the bachelors program in 2004. All states/NABP require that a U.S. grad must graduate from an ACPE accredited school before he/she can take the NAPLEX/MPJE.
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You missed the "if" in my statement. I was highlighting the differences between what the state boards want (meh, these new accreditation standards stink, we'll ignore them), and what the accreditors want (PharmD, PharmD, PharmD!!!), as they're not always the same, leading to some peculiar situations for non-US school grads.
 
jadeb said:
Hi 🙂
I am a pharmacy student in France and I am looking to move to the USA after I graduate in 2 years.

I will have to get the FPGEC certificate (FPGEE + TOEFL IBT).
After that I will have to find an internship provider : I heard that it's difficult and almost impossible to get an H1B visa sponsorship from a big retail chain (CVS,Walgreens....) and even If I get it I will need luck to win the H1B hazardous lottery.

I read that there is another way for me : doing a pharmacy residency or apost-B.S. of pharmacy in an american school of pharmacy. Than it will be much more easier for me to find an internship sponsor.
(http://www.aacp.org/resources/student/Pages/ForeignStudentsandGraduates.aspx)

Do I have to apply for a pharmacy residency or for a postBS of pharmacy ?

Are my informations correct ? Can you help me please ?

Thanks and sorry for my bad english 😀
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Are they seriously still giving away H1B's????????????????
 
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jadeb said:
French pharmacy degree is a 6-year degree.
A pharmacist is making 3350 $/month in the beginning and 5350 $/month after some years of experience. Those salaries are after tax.
The poblem is that in Europe the cost of living is much more higher than it is in the USA because the Euro is a VERY VERY VERY bad currency.
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And the dollar is just as bad.

I would like to live in California and ONLY in California.
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Saturated. Not going to happen. Not trying to sound mean, but the East Coast (i.e. NY, Philadelphia, New Jersey) and California are the most saturated markets out there...and both will only get worse as they keep opening new schools in both areas. If you want a job there you need either connections or a decade of experience. Of which you will have neither. Now if you wanted to move to Alaska or South Dakota...you could easily find a job.
 
jadeb said:
I would like to live in California and ONLY in California.
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Then you need to research the cost of living in California and what your taxes there will be. You might get about 40% of your salary taken away as various taxes, depending on the state. Not sure exactly what it is in California. Also it has very high cost of living compared to the rest of the country, and there are very few jobs left in the "good" parts of California, as many people are of the same mindset as you about living there.
 
dude,

stay the F** k where you are with your attitude toward north africans.
 
and if you think ca is geographically large, that is a very naive thinking. ca is primarily a large desert like dried up river valley divided between 2 major mountain ranges with primary economy based on agriculture. then you have extremely populated coastal and inland area people reside paying outrageously high real estate fees.
 
so you must be better than other north african, i guess.

(sarcasm)

and without legal residence status in the US, your chance of securing an employer to sponsor you to obtain a green card is almost zero to none. we already have oversupply of qualified and highly trained american citizen pharmacists who i would hire before entertaining a foreigner who reqires 5 years of legal hoop to employ only to leave for a greener pasture once green card is obtained. hell no.
 
btw u should move to arizona.
 
and i do believe he\she is an immigrant self.
 
hey dont let me discourage you from pursuing your life goals. if you want to come to america, well welcome to america but leave your condesceding attitudes toward other nationals back home in france. we dont tolerate that kinda shi tty attitude.
 
and where do you think unskilled workers in CA come from?
 
so let me get this straight...you dont like the native french who are intolerant of immigrants and you cant tolerate other north african immigrants?

now i get it....why didnt u say so.
 
im honored you decided to move here, your highness.


jadeb said:
I will come to the USA as a student (it's a legal status !) and I will do the accelerated pharm.D program and a residency in WesternU (that's 5 years of study even if I already have my 6 year french pharmacy degree !).
I think I'll get a green card before being intern : http://www.indianexpress.com/news/foreigners-with-us-degrees-may-get-green-car/613476/

Be proud that foreigners like me are intersted by your country and are leaving everything they have to get there.
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maybe i shouldnt be posting from church in the middle of a sermon
 
Western is a private school. The cost will be way more than $20k a year. The cost will probably be closer to $50k per year. http://www.westernu.edu/xp/edu/financial/financial-budgets-pharmacy-ipbp.xml If you come here on a student visa, you are limited on working opportunities.
All pharmacy schools give preference to citizens/green card holder. Many schools do not accept internationals or limit it to 1 or 2 per year. Some schools will given exceptions to Canadians. The programs for international grads are very, very competitive. They too give preference to green card holders/citizens.
 
jadeb said:
Even if I follow this program : http://www.westernu.edu/xp/edu/pharmacy/ipbp_curriculum.xml ?
How can I get a green card ?
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You can get a green card by marrying an American citizen or by employer sponsorship. Marrying a citizen will be an easier option than the employer sponsorship. Especially in CA. Now rural North Dakota in a one man hospital pharmacy operation? slightly better chance...but very unlikely.

Your previous link regarding new legislation to award green card to foreign college grads... aint gonna happen.
 
rxforlife2004 said:
Sorry since French don't like American, we don't like French either....so stay in your country. That's the best thing for both....
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another classic. almost spit out the sip of water i just took when i read this one.
 
jadeb said:
My problem is not about the money, my only problem is FRANCE.😡

I just want to leave this xxxxing country : rude, unfriendly, racist and backward people, bad weather, big problems because of the mass immigration from North Africa (insecurity, islamic fundamentalism ....), 50% of tax ....👎

I'am living in France since 2004 and I just want to LEAVE.
I already traveled all across the United States (Baltimore,D.C., Philadelphia, NYC, New England, Louisiana, Texas, Alaska, Washington/Oregon, California, Florida, Illinois) and I found that California is the best place for me.

I think Iam going to do an accelerated program to earn PharmD (ipbp) in WesternU (3 years) and a residency (2 years) and then I hope I won't have problems to find a nice job in a Hospital or a retail in C-A-L-I-F-O-R-N-I-A.😍
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If Californians can't find a job/internship in California, it ain't going to happen to you. I can't find even an internship while living in CA and attending a californian school of pharmacy, you sure as heck aren't going to be able to find one living across the Atlantic ocean w/out any legal status.
 
jadeb said:
I know that you just need mexican roadsweepers to do the dirty job :laugh:
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Mexican roadsweepers? What do you mean? What a racist pig... how can you diss Latin Americans???
 
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jadeb said:
Racist and stupid post.

I see that I'am really not welcome here : I will stay in France where I can own my own pharmacy and where there is free Healthcare. Paris is the best city in the world, I have nothing to do in the US.

Bye
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Yeah...Paris is so depressing...and yet great it's a wonderful city in the world for u....right on! The most romantic city in the world is full of thieves, robbing...etc...bird poop....u name it...
 
RxHusband said:
When did counting pills become a skill that we need to import from other countries? :laugh:
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When did showing your premed stupidity become something to be proud of ? Go back to your pre-med forums - Ross university awaits your application. :meanie:
 
I'm drinking this now..and feel a buzz coming on... is that wrong?

:meanie:

odouls.jpg
 
Is your armpit hairy?
 
tungsten87 said:
yuengling is the best cheap beer hands down. you can get a twelve pack of that stuff for 10 bucks.
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This is true.


Did you know that crystal light packets and rum can be combined to make an imminently drinkable concotion?
 
Am I the only one to be reminded of this when reading this thread?

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ApDPpbVlp4[/YOUTUBE]
 
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