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hi guys. im 22 turning 23 this year and so far ive been just doing what a lot of youths have been doing, taking a class here and there and going to work etc. however, i have always wanted to be a doctor and help people. being from a third world country, and being poor, it has always been just a dream. moving here to america has opened up opportunities and going to med school is one of them. now im just starting on my pre med stuff. I have finished my ge requirements for transferring to a UC. however, i have 0 in the core sciences requirements for a biology degree. i am planning to transfer to UCSD or SF (both tough schools to get into). now since i am starting late (ill probably finish doing my science requirement stuff in like 2 yrs or more) are there anyone knowledgeable and if its not too much of a burden, probably briefly outline a step-by-step plan for me? i would really appreciate it and since most of you guys seem like well rounded and sound individuals any input will be much appreciated. thank you guys and good luck to everyone.

p.s
i also got a degree from a technical institute besides my constant amount of withdraws from college courses. now will med schools look at that and see that as indecisiveness or lack of dedication?
 
There's a lot I can tell you but the first real step is talking to an adivsor in the pre-health department.
 
latestart said:
hi guys. im 22 turning 23 this year and so far ive been just doing what a lot of youths have been doing, taking a class here and there and going to work etc. however, i have always wanted to be a doctor and help people. being from a third world country, and being poor, it has always been just a dream. moving here to america has opened up opportunities and going to med school is one of them. now im just starting on my pre med stuff. I have finished my ge requirements for transferring to a UC. however, i have 0 in the core sciences requirements for a biology degree. i am planning to transfer to UCSD or SF (both tough schools to get into). now since i am starting late (ill probably finish doing my science requirement stuff in like 2 yrs or more) are there anyone knowledgeable and if its not too much of a burden, probably briefly outline a step-by-step plan for me? i would really appreciate it and since most of you guys seem like well rounded and sound individuals any input will be much appreciated. thank you guys and good luck to everyone.

p.s
i also got a degree from a technical institute besides my constant amount of withdraws from college courses. now will med schools look at that and see that as indecisiveness or lack of dedication?

In addition to what GatewayHoward suggested...

1) Please take the time to look up which schools you want to transfer too. UCSF IS A GRADUATE SCHOOL. They offer only ONE bachelors degree and thats in dental-hygiene.

2) A degree from a technical institute may not be transferrable to med school, and probably not to a UC for undergrad. If its anything like transferring from a private school like UOP to UCI, those courses are pretty much worthless in terms of credit.

3) Getting 1 or 2 W's is ok, getting too many is bad. I believe UC's will question that even for undergrad, and you can only have too many W's as an undergrad before UC's questions your academic status. Depending on the number of W's you have, you will have to address this when applying to med school. Even though you had to work full-time and so forth, others have to as well and have managed their coursework to survive. Therefore that is the applicant pool that you will be going against when applying to med school.

4) Its not impossible, but will be difficult. My cousin came to the US from SE asia back in the mid-90's not speaking a word of english. After some high school, he went to UCR, and then got into UCLA school of medicine. He had no money, and son on, but also worked his behind off, and was dedicated from the get go.

5) I personally have 2 W's as a freshman in college back in 2000. I worked full-time, and supported my family. After transfering to a UC, i continued to commute about 1.5hrs every other day to support my family. Money was an issue, but you had to do what you had to do. If you can't handle work, classes, and EC's at the same time (within reasonable amounts), then that is not showing adcoms that you can handle medical school. Doing well, as a full-time student, while doing EC's, and having a life (including working) is viewed in a very positive light.

6) If work is of an issue, then you better resolve this soon. As time moves forward, questions will arise such as taking the MCAT, applications and so fourth. You cannot withdraw in the middle of the MCAT, it will show that you voided the test, and you can essentially only take the test 3 times.

So yea, a lot to do, and you will have to see if its feasible or not. That appear to have a lot of underlying factors that may make undergrad challenging, so I would suggest worrying about those first, before worrying about what it takes into med school. Plenty of time to go to med school, but if your application raises red flags to the adcoms, that might be a very long lasting scar on your records...and require a lot of additional work to heal. Good luck!
 
You need to take:

1 year of G chem, prior to taking 1 year of o chem
1 year of bio
1 year of phyics
1 year of english

Ws dont look good. There are many options available, talk to your advisors. Sometimes people with less stellar grades go to the carribean, which is totally fine and you will return as a doctor and anesthisiology would be totally with in your grasp.
 
Gatewayhoward said:
There's a lot I can tell you but the first real step is talking to an adivsor in the pre-health department.


Perhaps, but be careful. My experiences with academic and/or career advisors has not been good.

You could get some yahoo that's discouraging.

OP, in general, be advised to take all advice with a grain of salt (including this, I guess...LOL)
 
latestart said:
hi guys. im 22 turning 23 this year and so far ive been just doing what a lot of youths have been doing, taking a class here and there and going to work etc. however, i have always wanted to be a doctor and help people. being from a third world country, and being poor, it has always been just a dream. moving here to america has opened up opportunities and going to med school is one of them. now im just starting on my pre med stuff. I have finished my ge requirements for transferring to a UC. however, i have 0 in the core sciences requirements for a biology degree. i am planning to transfer to UCSD or SF (both tough schools to get into). now since i am starting late (ill probably finish doing my science requirement stuff in like 2 yrs or more) are there anyone knowledgeable and if its not too much of a burden, probably briefly outline a step-by-step plan for me? i would really appreciate it and since most of you guys seem like well rounded and sound individuals any input will be much appreciated. thank you guys and good luck to everyone.

p.s
i also got a degree from a technical institute besides my constant amount of withdraws from college courses. now will med schools look at that and see that as indecisiveness or lack of dedication?

Hi there,
Order a new copy of the Medical School Admission Requirements (MSAR)from the ACGME website. This book will give you the admission requirements for medical schools in this country. Figure out what you need and where you can get the courses.

You will generally need a bachelor's degree in some discipline plus the pre-med courses: One year of General Chemistry with lab; one year of Organic Chemistry with lab; one year of General Biology with lab and one year of General Physics with lab. Many medical schools have other requirements such as Genetics, Calculus etc. so you need to look at the MSAR and keep up with the schools that interest you.

It generally takes two years to complete the pre-med courses. In addition, you need to take the MCAT (Medical College Admissions Test) after you have completed your pre-med coursework and prepared for this important exam.

These are the basics. The rest of the material that you need can be obtained from 1. Academic advisors at your university 2. MSAR 3. Books on admission to medical school (lots of them out there so go to a bookstore and get one).

Good luck
njbmd 🙂
 
about the W's. I do have more than 2. However, what if i show them that that was only because i was undecided and now that i set my heart on medicine i havent had any W's and have fully dedicated to sticking it through, you guys think that is a feasible argument that i can make?
 
latestart said:
about the W's. I do have more than 2. However, what if i show them that that was only because i was undecided and now that i set my heart on medicine i havent had any W's and have fully dedicated to sticking it through, you guys think that is a feasible argument that i can make?

Actions speak louder than words. Everything on your application except for your transcript and MCAT scores can be taken as a grain of salt. Its up to whoever is looking at your application. You can't attach any proof to the primary application to support that stuff. Maybe such a statement will get you to secondaries, and tilt it over to interviews, but ultimately what matters is being accepted, and being accepted depends on if the adcoms see proof of your dedication to explain those W's. And that is something that will depend on you.
 
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