Future payments for Pods?

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This is something I've been wondering for a while now, and I just thought I would start a new thread after another of the countless "who's better orthos or pods" threads.

Healthcare for pods is definitely still on different levels in many areas. I hope the resolution passes soon but I think it will be closer to 5-10 years as politics are always behind. Another example of this would be the military reimbursements for tuition. DOs and MDs get much better packages then a DPM could hope for but in times of need a DPM does much more than a civilian DPM would do in areas of surgery and many other areas, yet still get the same payments.

I guess I just want to get a general discussion going on what everyone will think will go on with healthcare in general and podiatry from more equality and even payments. I think podiatry will even out but it takes time and patience, along with no one wanting to have their toes stepped on.

Technology advancements with software analysis for reimbursements is another issue as well as pay for performance (although that has been talked about for a while now). How will healthcare change....I can go on and on but I will leave it at this for now

The thread will probably die, and if not I will be in mexico for a week 👍 and will not be taking my computer with me.
 
Who's to say where healthcare is heading period...nobody knows. I've asked some of my attendings and some frequent responses I get "if it get's too bad, I'll just retire". That's crap. What about those of us that are stuck at the beginning of this damn process? Anyway, I think podiatry is pretty much in balance with payments, here is a good site for accurate compensation data. Ignore the midlevel title they put on that. They pretty much put everyone who wasn't and MD/DO on that list. But what is important is that podiatry is compensated pretty well, even more than dentistry and some medical specialties. You guys have a bright future. I think this nonsense talk about equating to MD/DO is just nonsense. We all provide different levels of care, that's all.


http://www.cejkasearch.com/compensation/amga_midlevel_compensation_survey.htm
 
Healthcare for pods is definitely still on different levels in many areas. I hope the resolution passes soon but I think it will be closer to 5-10 years as politics are always behind. Another example of this would be the military reimbursements for tuition. DOs and MDs get much better packages then a DPM could hope for but in times of need a DPM does much more than a civilian DPM would do in areas of surgery and many other areas, yet still get the same payments.

I was wondering about this because from what my husband has been looking at he didn't think that the military offered any reimbursements for tuition, that they only take MD/DO, dentists, nurses, etc. Do they have programs like this for DPM's? Do you have information or a link about these programs.

Sorry it alittle of your original topic I was just very curious to see if there are programs that will help while he is in school in exchange for service or help with loan repayment after school

Thanks - PodWif
 
I don't have any exact links. The way it works for most branches is that if they need more pods or want more they might offer 2 years tuition credit. It really does change year to year. I believe most branches are offering one year tuition credit at this time (and that it is just tuition, not living expenses). The best bet is to talk to your recruiting rep and they will get you in touch with the right people

Some links (not that helpful...)

http://www.goarmy.com/amedd/m_service/podiatry.jsp

http://www.navy.com/careers/officer/healthcare/medicalservices/
http://www.navy.com/careers/officer/healthcare/

http://www.airforce.com/careers/subcatg.php?catg_id=3&sub_catg_id=4
 
I talked with a couple of military health care recruiters. What you need to do to find out information in your area is call the regular branch recruiter and ask for the healhcare recruiter. (It will probably be another number you have to call)

The navy has the best opportunities (but not many openings). It depends on the demand for that year and changes each year.

For this year they are offering $120,000 tuition repayment (but there's only like 1-2 openings for the country she said).

Also, you can start your 4th year of pod school, and they'll give you $30,000-$35,000 a year for your 4th year and 3 years of residency. And that money is in addition to the paycheck the residency gives you!!!...but again, there are very limited openings and it changes every year.

Army offers nothing, airforce a tiny bit of tuition reimbursement and that's as far as my research into the matter goes...I haven't even started pod school...I hope this helps, but hopefully 4 years from now nobody beats me into one of these spots who heard about it from me!:laugh:
 
one more thing...for the navy offer:

you would owe 4 years of service after your residency, and the navy has no residency of its own so you do it wherever you want...but I think you have to apply and get accepted to both offers independently.

The army doesn't offer money, but they do have a residency program, 12 months at the Eisenhower Army Medical Center in Fort Gordon, GA and 24 months at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in North Carolina.

This information was courtesy of the healthcare recruiters in the Lansing, MI area. Maybe you might get different information in your area?
 
I am a recent graduate from the Army program, and might be able to give you some more info. (You can also search for my past posts for more specific stuff about the residency. I won't get into it here.)

In all of the services the DPMs are in a different branch than the MD/DOs. In the Army it is Medical Services Corps, Air Force Basic Sciences Corps and not sure about the Navy. In part this makes it tricky in getting similar loan repayment/bonuses in parity. So far it's not happening, but it is always a hot topic.

The programs available are always changing, so I can't give specifics but should be able to give you a general idea.

The Navy likely has the best deals right now. They do not have a residency, but will allow you to do any residency you match with. They offer student loan repayment of about $30,000/year. For each year of student loan repayment you also incur an additional year service obligation. Some direct commission podiatrists take advantage of this to go back for additional training. About every other year or so a Navy resident might match with the Army program and go through that way.

The Air Force doesn't have any residency program, and as far as I know only take DPMs after residency. I'm not sure about any loan repayment programs or bonuses they might offer. I'm not aware of any.

The Army is the only service that has a residency program. It is currently a PM&S-36 joint program, with the first year at Eisenhower Army Medical Center in Augusta GA and the next 2 years at Womack Army Medical Center at Fort Bragg NC. I can say it is a strong program and you will definately learn what you need to, but it is not typical. You will not see as many diabetics though with dependants and retirees they are still inthe patient mix. There are more pediatric patients than most places. Most of the patients are younger, active duty people so more emphasis on sports medicine type issues (lateral ankle instability and chronic ankle pain have got to be among the top problems) and lots of fractures. Not much "primary care" nail and callus problems. There is also a strong drive towards developing independant practitioners. After residency you may be the chief of the podiatric services in a samller hospital and will need to be able to work independantly as well as run the services.

Student loan repayment and bonuses have been hot topics for a while, and there are things in the works. The latest I have heard is that they are trying to work out a selection process to offer student loan repayment to the incoming residents. This should be on par with what the Navy offers, ~ $30,000/year for 4 years with an additional year service obligation for each year. So far I've not seen anything official. I also haven't seen any additional money in my paycheck, but it may happen.

Two more things. We are still a nation at war, and this concerns some people. There is a possibility of deploying. Two of our recent graduates have served or are on their way to Iraq to work in a Combat Support Hospital. From what I understand most of the patients they are treating are Iraqis, and life isn't too bad there. It still is time away from home. It is also an opportunity to do stuff that most people don't get to, and the addtional pay/tax breaks aren't bad either. It isn't for everyone, but I would go if it works out that way.

The other is that for all of the services the money is a bit different than for someone in private practice. Pay is based on rank and time in service. For the most part you can expect to start as a Captain (O-3), but for those with prior service promotion may be accelerated, and pay will start a bit higher on the scale. There are additional breaks that should be factored in. I'll offer an incomplete list.

- Full medical/dental benefits (and for family)
- Malpractice is covered
- Good CME/test reimbursement
- 30 days paid vacation/year (may not be able to use all of it while in residency, but it accumulates)
- Thrift Savings Program (similar to 401-K, great program)
- For those who stay for 20 years, pension benefits
- For those leaving early, time counts if you get into a VA or GS position
- Housing allowance and Subsistance Allowance are not taxable income (about 20% of my pay is not taxed, this makes a pretty big difference)
- PX/Commissary benefits (PX is similar to Walmart, I don't see hige differences there, but using the Commissary can cut grocery bills by ~ 20%)
- MWR (Morale, Welfare and Recreation) programs offer discounted travel and other things
- Free gyms
- Lots of other things depending on what you are looking for
- Working with some of the best patients in the world. This one is really intangible, but makes my practice worthwhile. It's difficult to put into words, but being able to help some of these people makes it an easy job to go into every day. It may also be that since money isn't one of the higher things on my priority list it makes it a nicer job to have.
- I'm sure this is an incomplete list.

This turned into a longer post than I anticipated. I hope it offers some useful information. I'm here, I'm doing it, I think it is a good way to go. I don't think this holds true for everyone. For the right person it can be a great way to go, but a lot of people would find it doesn't suit them.

Last comment. If you think you are interested, or if you just want a good experience, I would highly recommend spending the time to rotate at Fort Bragg. May open your eyes a little.

Eric
 
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