Ga-PCOM vs. Nova Southeastern

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I am having a really difficult time trying to decide between these two programs. I have visited both and was able to see things that I liked from both schools but then some things that I was concerned with from both schools. NSU had wonderful facilities and all their students looked very professional in their scrubs or suits. I got the feeling that their program was very well established but on the other hand they had a very large class size. Ga-PCOM seemed like a very good atmosphere among their students but as far as their professionalism goes I was a little dissappointed. The students were wearing shorts and sweatshirts and their facilities looked like they were just thrown together. I would greatly appreciate the input of students from both programs and their views on the education that they are recieving.
 
Scuba Steve said:
I am having a really difficult time trying to decide between these two programs. I have visited both and was able to see things that I liked from both schools but then some things that I was concerned with from both schools. NSU had wonderful facilities and all their students looked very professional in their scrubs or suits. I got the feeling that their program was very well established but on the other hand they had a very large class size. Ga-PCOM seemed like a very good atmosphere among their students but as far as their professionalism goes I was a little dissappointed. The students were wearing shorts and sweatshirts and their facilities looked like they were just thrown together. I would greatly appreciate the input of students from both programs and their views on the education that they are recieving.
Go to NSU, it a well established school compared to Ga-PCOM. You'll be happy when its time to apply for residency.
 
i think you should go for Nova. the academics there are highly regarded. plus south florida is not a bad place to be!!
 
Come to NSU..you'll get a chance to beat my face in if i gave you bad advice 🙂
 
Follow your heart, it will not lead you astray.
 
I have a similar decision to make. I am choosing between nova, touro-nv, and dmu. I am leaning toward nova since I'm from florida. But the cost of living there is a killer.
 
I just wanted to respond to your issues with GA-PCOM, but you should make your own decision based on how you feel.

1) Students in Shorts and Sweatshirts:

Depending on the day that you were there, we wear shorts and t-shirts to OMM lab and PCS (primary care skills) lab so that we can have access to certain parts of the body without restriction. Wow that sounded bad! You know what I mean. On a normal day we wear jeans, khakis etc. I personally think that it is a plus, but if you feel like you want to be in a tie go to NOVA. There will be ample time to wear a shirt and tie as a physician, might as well be comfortable while sitting in class. We dress up for PCS labs and any public function. Scrubs are really reserved for the anatomy lab as it should be.

2) Facilities thrown together?

Wow i'm surprised you said this. That is the one thing that impresses everyone about our school! Were you at the right building? We are all wireless, countless desktops for students, state of the art library and OMM lab with plasma screens. Our Anatomy lab has one of the best ventilation systs. in the country and has plasma screens and cameras to asssist the professors. Full Cafe with catered food etc. etc. Oh yeah and a brand new Gym with nautilus equipment and satellite T.V.s . If that is your idea of thrown together, I would hate to see what you think of some of the older DO schools facilities.

But all in all you have to make the decision. I for one think I am getting an excellent education at GA-PCOM and we have a great class.

BMW-
Scuba Steve said:
I am having a really difficult time trying to decide between these two programs. I have visited both and was able to see things that I liked from both schools but then some things that I was concerned with from both schools. NSU had wonderful facilities and all their students looked very professional in their scrubs or suits. I got the feeling that their program was very well established but on the other hand they had a very large class size. Ga-PCOM seemed like a very good atmosphere among their students but as far as their professionalism goes I was a little dissappointed. The students were wearing shorts and sweatshirts and their facilities looked like they were just thrown together. I would greatly appreciate the input of students from both programs and their views on the education that they are recieving.
 
BMW thank you for your input about Ga-PCOM. These two schools were the only two schools that I visited and I just saw the immediate differences between the two. I was just worried that with Ga-PCOM being brand new that they may be letting a few things slide while trying to get some other things together. During my interview day the building was a little unorganized as was the interview schedule. The person that gave us the tour just kinda walked us through the whole building kinda fast and didn't seem to know a lot about anything. Also the interviewers were late getting there. Now don't get me wrong I do believe that Ga-PCOM is a wonderful school and I would very much like to attend this school, but I just wanted to make sure that I would be recieving a credible education by attending. This is after all a very important and not to mention pricey investment. Thank you again for your input. If you don't mind answering, could you tell me if you were from Georgia and what you like the best and least about attending Ga-PCOM?
 
Steve,

Sometimes things do get chaotic at GA-PCOM i'm not going to lie! But that is the case with any new school trying to get its bearings. Most people don't realize how in depth it is to undertake this process. The nice thing is that we have a mother school in Philly so its not like we are reinventing the wheel. If you did come next year, things will be much more organized b/c this year we had to deal with new building, new students with no upperclass, accreditation, curriculum etc. etc. Next year things should flow pretty smooth for the new students, as we were the Gynea pigs.

To answer your questions:

Yes and no from GA. I grew up in NY, but have spent the last 7 years in Atlanta, so I guess I am a born-again Atlantan.

Like most:

The facilities! Ha Ha guess that won't be big plus because you were not too impressed. Seriously though you couldn't ask for any more technological convenience. Virtual library, lectures on DVD so if you sleep in you won't feel as guilty! Professors dissecting while we watch on Plasma screens and follow.

We have a really strong class. Being the first class we have had to put up with a lot but it builds character. The professors have an open door policy meaning you can walk back into the admin wing any time and ask them a Q without making an appointment. Our Dean is excellent and always puts the students first. Integrated curriclum meaning you don't learn about the anatomy of the Pancreas in first year and then Diabetes in Second year. We get it all at once (sort of). They kind of ease you into each topic that will be discussed in detail second year.

Dislikes:

Mostly attributed to it being new. Tech probs. Curricululm changes constantly as they strive to make it tight. Scheduling issues, weird breaks and 8 A.M classes sometimes. But these things are all being resolved and you will have no prob. if you attend next year

Hope this helps,

BMW-


Scuba Steve said:
BMW thank you for your input about Ga-PCOM. These two schools were the only two schools that I visited and I just saw the immediate differences between the two. I was just worried that with Ga-PCOM being brand new that they may be letting a few things slide while trying to get some other things together. During my interview day the building was a little unorganized as was the interview schedule. The person that gave us the tour just kinda walked us through the whole building kinda fast and didn't seem to know a lot about anything. Also the interviewers were late getting there. Now don't get me wrong I do believe that Ga-PCOM is a wonderful school and I would very much like to attend this school, but I just wanted to make sure that I would be recieving a credible education by attending. This is after all a very important and not to mention pricey investment. Thank you again for your input. If you don't mind answering, could you tell me if you were from Georgia and what you like the best and least about attending Ga-PCOM?
 
Things to look at while choosing a school

1. Academics
2. Rotations
3. Residency.

I have interviewed at both schools. Accepted at NSU. Still to hear from PCOM. I chose NSU. WHY? At NSU you get clinical exposure in the first two years. Rotations are established. Track record of residencies at good locations all over the country. Check out NSU web site. Its all listed. Whereas PCOM-GA the web site does not say much, no rotations established as YET. No track record of residencies because it is a new school. There maybe problems setting up rotations because they have More House, Emory and other medical schools in that area that are established. Academics at NSU must be good for the students to get the listed residencies. In shot: NSU is established PCOM is NOT. But ....its your choice. Good luck.
 
I'm not sure if you have any connection to Georgia, but if you do, NSU gives you the option to do your rotations in Georgia (Osteopathic Institute of the South).
 
Just because they don't put the rotations on our website does not mean they are not established. We have established rotations at very good hospitals (level 1 and 2 trauma centers). They cannot put everything on the website at this time, if you have ever dealt with red tape and politics you would know why. If you interview now and ask them they will tell you. As for residencies that will depend on your board scores, grades, interview skills and luck. People think if they go to NSU they will be guaranteed a great residency this is not the case. Anyway we will have PCOM's name on our diploma, which in my opinion can certainly compete with NSU any day. Just my opinion.

BMW-


babloo said:
Things to look at while choosing a school

1. Academics
2. Rotations
3. Residency.

I have interviewed at both schools. Accepted at NSU. Still to hear from PCOM. I chose NSU. WHY? At NSU you get clinical exposure in the first two years. Rotations are established. Track record of residencies at good locations all over the country. Check out NSU web site. Its all listed. Whereas PCOM-GA the web site does not say much, no rotations established as YET. No track record of residencies because it is a new school. There maybe problems setting up rotations because they have More House, Emory and other medical schools in that area that are established. Academics at NSU must be good for the students to get the listed residencies. In shot: NSU is established PCOM is NOT. But ....its your choice. Good luck.
 
I didn't think the name on the diploma mattered.
 
Well he made the point that people from NSU get great residencies. I am assuming that he thinks they get this because they come from "NSU" and that know one will be familiar with GA-PCOM. My point was that we are affilitated with PCOM Philly which has over a 100 year history.

BMW-

lsudoc82 said:
I didn't think the name on the diploma mattered.
 
When I interviewed at PCOM last month I asked the admissions the question about rotations. I was told that they are looking at sites for rotation but the sites were not established. Though I liked the school, it is closer to home but based on this information I have ruled PCOM-GA out. Also, when you pick a medical school track record of residencies in the past for the school should be given priority along with the "pass rate". This is an advice given to me by several well established physicians. Hey, I beleive them they have been there and they are all very successful. Not that I am saying that PCOM-GA is bad. I cannot say that it is bad or good......it has no track record as yet to give an opinion. It will someday...but right now??????
When you apply for residencies you will be asked which PCOM did you attend? GA or Philly? Won't they?
 
babloo said:
When I interviewed at PCOM last month I asked the admissions the question about rotations. I was told that they are looking at sites for rotation but the sites were not established. Though I liked the school, it is closer to home but based on this information I have ruled PCOM-GA out. Also, when you pick a medical school track record of residencies in the past for the school should be given priority along with the "pass rate". This is an advice given to me by several well established physicians. Hey, I beleive them they have been there and they are all very successful. Not that I am saying that PCOM-GA is bad. I cannot say that it is bad or good......it has no track record as yet to give an opinion. It will someday...but right now??????
When you apply for residencies you will be asked which PCOM did you attend? GA or Philly? Won't they?

No track record right?? Well, we and the next class of GA-PCOM will set the track record.

OIS has had a rotational/clinical system set up for years, now they have the students to fill those spots. Much of our clinical stuff has been set up, and more is getting finalized as time goes on, and I have little reason to worry.

It takes guts, a jejunum of steel, to go to a new school with little previous history except the name of PCOM behind it. We would like to have our next class filled with those same "can-do" people.
 
BMW19 said:
I personally think that it is a plus, but if you feel like you want to be in a tie go to NOVA. There will be ample time to wear a shirt and tie as a physician, might as well be comfortable while sitting in class. We dress up for PCS labs and any public function. Scrubs are really reserved for the anatomy lab as it should be.

BMW-
i love it when people, like yourself, state your assumptions when you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. First off, nobody wears a shirt and tie to class. The only time people dress up is if they have to go shadow a doctor right after class.

We also wear shorts and tees to opp lab anc clinical practice lab, but we have locker rooms to change. it's not tough to change out of scrubs and into shorts.

To the OP, there are things I don't like about NSU such as the schedule and some administration problems. but these are things that you will likely find at every school. we are in class all day, have tests every week. it sucks but it's expected since it's med school.

I would personally go to the school that has established residents. NSU students are very highly regarded when applying to residencies. especially in florida because people are familiar with the quality of doctors the school has produced. PCOM is a great school and probably higher ranked than NSU, but you have to consider that just because it is a branch of the school does not mean that the school will get the same respect as the original school. I'm sure Ga-PCOM is also a great school, but what do you think residency programs may think when the school has no practicing physicians?

the bottom line is that a reputation is built upon the quality of doctors produced by the school. residency programs recognize that. Also, when you have that many practicing physicians out there from your school, it opens up doors and gives you the opportunity to build connections, which is almost as important as your scores. I'm sure being a Ga-PCOM student you will turn out to be a great doctor, but you will just have to work harder and prove people wrong because you will be from a new school.
 
samdwi said:
No track record right?? Well, we and the next class of GA-PCOM will set the track record.

OIS has had a rotational/clinical system set up for years, now they have the students to fill those spots. Much of our clinical stuff has been set up, and more is getting finalized as time goes on, and I have little reason to worry.

It takes guts, a jejunum of steel, to go to a new school with little previous history except the name of PCOM behind it. We would like to have our next class filled with those same "can-do" people.

dont get defensive if your school has no track record...so you'll set the track record..big freaking deal...he's not going to be waiting on your ass to do so..the OP has to make a decision soon...and yes..it does take balls to go to a school with no track-record...go pat yourself in the back for doing so
 
DrMikeyLu said:
dont get defensive if your school has no track record...so you'll set the track record..big freaking deal...he's not going to be waiting on your ass to do so..the OP has to make a decision soon...and yes..it does take balls to go to a school with no track-record...go pat yourself in the back for doing so

I interviewed at NSU and got in, almost went there too. Changed my mind and came to GA-PCOM. Being the first class of a new school is a challenge as LECOM-B c/o 2008 can attest to. So the fact that I'm doing good here and am part of making my school bigger and better is something I thank my balls for everyday. Pat myself everyday too, if you were wondering.

Setting the track record is indeed a big freakin' deal - that's gonna be on my resume for sure.

And to babloo, to whom my reply was intended, you cant go wrong with NSU, but in case you were wondering if you'd be closing opportunities by coming here (GA), you aren't. You would, however, be only the second class we've had, so it won't be as smooth a ride as at NSU - if you're willing to accept that, you'll be fine. We have OIS, PCOM Philly, and several others backing us up, so were confident in our future careers. You have to be here to know what I'm talking about, I guess.
 
I am glad that students from PCOM-GA are so very protective about their school and want to build it up. Good for you. Maybe that is your goal. BUT my goal is to be trained as a physician where the best opportunity (already) exists. For me, it is not the question of a challenge to improve a track record of a school or help it grow bigger. Or of guts!!! That is another subject by itself. ( SIDE-BAR: And by the way...we go to med school for what? To improve the institution? Or to benefit from it?) Just listen to yourself .....you are off subject. Hallo? What was the initial question? Which is a better school to go to NOW? Not how the students are going to build it up.. for later. 🙄 🙄 🙄
 
babloo said:
I am glad that students from PCOM-GA are so very protective about their school and want to build it up. Good for you. Maybe that is your goal. BUT my goal is to be trained as a physician where the best opportunity (already) exists. For me, it is not the question of a challenge to improve a track record of a school or help it grow bigger. Or of guts!!! That is another subject by itself. ( SIDE-BAR: And by the way...we go to med school for what? To improve the institution? Or to benefit from it?) Just listen to yourself .....you are off subject. Hallo? What was the initial question? Which is a better school to go to NOW? Not how the students are going to build it up.. for later. 🙄 🙄 🙄

I think that since it carries the name "PCOM" the opportunity already exists. PCOM in Philly has made such a good name for itself that it will carry on into the Georgia campus. So if I had to choose, I would go with PCOM-GA. I was told at my PCOM-Philly interview that the Georgia students will rotate into Philly a lot. In the end, if someone asked you where did you go to school and you say PCOM regardless of what state it is in you will be respected. Good luck
 
redman said:
I have a similar decision to make. I am choosing between nova, touro-nv, and dmu. I am leaning toward nova since I'm from florida. But the cost of living there is a killer.


DMU all the way in your case. DMU is def one of the top osteopathic schools.
 
USArmyDoc said:
DMU all the way in your case. DMU is def one of the top osteopathic schools.

indeed DMU is excellent..but he'll get instate tuition..which will beat the price of DMU...but i'd definately narrow it down to NSU and DMU...
 
USArmyDoc said:
DMU all the way in your case. DMU is def one of the top osteopathic schools.
i respect your opinion. DMU is a great school and my brother went there and he is an awesome doctor. just from discussing things with him though he has mentioned to me that NSU sounds like it has a better clinical program during the first 2 years. and the 2nd two years also.

My choice was between DMU and NSU. i guess the ONLY reason I chose NSU is because DMU is a 30 minute drive from my hometown. If i were not from Iowa I'd probably have gone to DMU.
 
USArmyDoc said:
I think that since it carries the name "PCOM" the opportunity already exists. PCOM in Philly has made such a good name for itself that it will carry on into the Georgia campus. So if I had to choose, I would go with PCOM-GA. I was told at my PCOM-Philly interview that the Georgia students will rotate into Philly a lot. In the end, if someone asked you where did you go to school and you say PCOM regardless of what state it is in you will be respected. Good luck
I don't believe carrying the name PCOM will have any bearing on the reputation. It is a NEW school. every new school is going to have administrative problems for a few years before they get settled. At a residency interview or application you don't say you went to PCOM, you say you went to Ga-PCOM. they will recognize that difference. Also (I'm not sure about this so please correct me if I am wrong) PCOM is generally pretty tough to get into where as i would assume Ga-PCOM would be considerably easier to get accepted to.
 
HoodyHoo said:
I don't believe carrying the name PCOM will have any bearing on the reputation. It is a NEW school. every new school is going to have administrative problems for a few years before they get settled. At a residency interview or application you don't say you went to PCOM, you say you went to Ga-PCOM. they will recognize that difference. Also (I'm not sure about this so please correct me if I am wrong) PCOM is generally pretty tough to get into where as i would assume Ga-PCOM would be considerably easier to get accepted to.


True, you have some good points. I just think that if PCOM has been able to solidify a good program in Philly that it can transfer over to the Georgia campus. Although NSU is a great program to. The nice thing about this choice is that you can't go wrong either way.
 
DrMikeyLu said:
indeed DMU is excellent..but he'll get instate tuition..which will beat the price of DMU...but i'd definately narrow it down to NSU and DMU...

I have to make the same decision very soon, NSU or DMU. I think NSU has a great future, especially with 155 acute care hospital the school will be building. However, I am also tempted by the lower cost of living and less traffic congestion at DMU.
 
There have been some interesting comments on this thread that share commonalities with interviewing candidates at Touro-Nevada. Many people are ultimately concerned with new programs. I think it's normal but at the same time, most of these new schools are based on the foundation of their parent institution which includes the curriculum. Sure the parent institution may have great match lists and sure other older schools have great match lists too. It can be impressive when deciding about a school but that doesn't mean a candidate, upon entering the match, will get a great residency. There are many factors that play into matching at a program, let alone a "great" program. I think a student would be slightly foolish in deciding to attend one school over another based on previous match lists. There have been many people from lower tiered med schools or schools that don't have a great reputation that match into competitive fields and programs. I don't know the numbers or stats so don't ask...and some may think I'm only saying this because I go to a new school too... People are entitled to their opinions as I am but I think the effort one puts forth in med school - through grades, board scores, LORs, extracurriculars, etc. will ultimately speak for itself, in addition to nailing those residency interviews.

As for the NAME of the school, PDs will see that on the ERAS application along with all the lovely stats. What one must take into consideration is that the student is essentially interviewing for a "job" or the first part of their chosen career path for lack of better word. Just look through all the residency forum discussions and all the questions that are asked about getting into such and such program.

What I think is really important for the candidate is to decide if he/she feels good about the school and it's location. Happiness is something that one shouldn't necessarily sacrifice. If you absolutely hated the school and it's surroundings, one may find him-/herself dreading waking up in the AM to get up and go to class in a place he/she absolutely detests. That would make a long 4 years (or 2) which may adversely affect school performance.

Clinical rotations are up there in importance as well. I think all candidates should be asking about this. Academics during the first 2 years are just that...anatomy is anatomy is anatomy...I think no matter where one goes, they would get a solid BASE foundation upon which he/she will build to prepare for the boards. Board scores are an evaluation of the individual student. One could go to a school that has 98%-99% pass rate...and that's great...but is that going to guarantee that he/she will pass? Maybe or maybe not. I really think it is up to the individual student in getting those scores. The school is not going to take the boards for any student...duh. Additionally, pass rates are great but does one just want a passing score of 400 on the COMLEX? So, IMO, boards are more of an individual assessment.

All of these older med schools were new at one point or another. All these concerns were brought up back then too. Have any of those programs failed and closed their doors? I think it's okay to be cautious but if it really bothers someone, then why bother to apply to the program? Save that money for something else.

Lastly, just because a school is new doesn't necessarily mean it could be easier to get into. The first year or two, maybe, but as more application cycles pass, the more standards may rise. I'll give my school, Touro-Nevada, as an example...the minimum MCAT requirement is 23.

Just my $0.02

To the OP: good luck with your decision...you'll get a good medical education either way.
 
box29 said:
Lastly, just because a school is new doesn't necessarily mean it could be easier to get into. The first year or two, maybe, but as more application cycles pass, the more standards may rise. I'll give my school, Touro-Nevada, as an example...the minimum MCAT requirement is 23.
I think every school states a minimum but there are always exceptions. at out school I know for a fact there are a couple people in my class who scored 19 or lower on the MCAT and they were accepted. I also know that NSU's minimum requirement for applying is higher than this. Then again these are the same people that didn't pass the first year of school.........now that i think about it maybe the school was just tryin to eat their money.

To the OP: go where you feel more comfortable when you interview. I would just go with your gut feeling. either way i'm sure you will turn out fine since 90% is based on your effort/grades/boards and your ability to network.
 
I interviewed at TOURO-NV. I think it's a good school with awesome potential. I the reason I am not going there is personal. My family is in vegas. However, my wife and my family are like oil and water.

What impresses me about NOVA is even though it is a relatively young school. It has grown tremendously and in a smart way. They have programs in every major healthcare field. The school plans to build a 155 bed acute care hospital on campus in the next few years which will definitely put the program on the map. Plus south florida is experiencing unprecidented growth with major affliated hospitals close by. For me, it will be a tough call. For now, I am putting deposits down at both DMU and NSU. Even though, i from florida, the cost of living down south will offset any tuition savings from NSU.
 
Why don't you read the posts carefully before you post like a Jacka$$ and say I have no idea what I am talking about. I based my statements off of two things:

1) I interviewed at NOVA, and they said that you do wear a shirt and tie to class. I am only going off of what YOUR admin. told me at my interview.

2) If you read the original posters first post, you will see that he liked that the students looked professional in SUITS!! I didn't even say suits he did.

Learn not to get offensive on these forums before YOU know what you are talking about.

Remember people he asked US about our school and how it compares to NSU and we are simply giving our opinions.

BMW-

HoodyHoo said:
i love it when people, like yourself, state your assumptions when you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. First off, nobody wears a shirt and tie to class. The only time people dress up is if they have to go shadow a doctor right after class.

We also wear shorts and tees to opp lab anc clinical practice lab, but we have locker rooms to change. it's not tough to change out of scrubs and into shorts.

To the OP, there are things I don't like about NSU such as the schedule and some administration problems. but these are things that you will likely find at every school. we are in class all day, have tests every week. it sucks but it's expected since it's med school.

I would personally go to the school that has established residents. NSU students are very highly regarded when applying to residencies. especially in florida because people are familiar with the quality of doctors the school has produced. PCOM is a great school and probably higher ranked than NSU, but you have to consider that just because it is a branch of the school does not mean that the school will get the same respect as the original school. I'm sure Ga-PCOM is also a great school, but what do you think residency programs may think when the school has no practicing physicians?

the bottom line is that a reputation is built upon the quality of doctors produced by the school. residency programs recognize that. Also, when you have that many practicing physicians out there from your school, it opens up doors and gives you the opportunity to build connections, which is almost as important as your scores. I'm sure being a Ga-PCOM student you will turn out to be a great doctor, but you will just have to work harder and prove people wrong because you will be from a new school.
 
HoodyHoo said:
I think every school states a minimum but there are always exceptions. at out school I know for a fact there are a couple people in my class who scored 19 or lower on the MCAT and they were accepted. I also know that NSU's minimum requirement for applying is higher than this. Then again these are the same people that didn't pass the first year of school.........now that i think about it maybe the school was just tryin to eat their money.

Sorry to hijack the thread...I don' know how it is at GaPCOM, but I can speak for Touro-Nevada in that I do work with the admissions director and it is an absolute requirement starting with the class of 2010 that a 23 MCAT is required to interview. So far, according to the accepted candidates that have placed deposits which is roughly 2/3 of the spots, the average MCAT for the Class of 2010 is 26. According to Roger Corbman, Director of Admissions, no one will receive an interview invite without the minimum requirement of a 23 MCAT.
 
Anyhow, to OP: I agree with HoodyHoo 🙂 in that you should choose a school where you felt the most comfortable and enjoyed your time there. If you have a chance or the money, perhaps you can make a second visit and spend the day with a student. Good luck!
 
babloo said:
When I interviewed at PCOM last month I asked the admissions the question about rotations. I was told that they are looking at sites for rotation but the sites were not established. Though I liked the school, it is closer to home but based on this information I have ruled PCOM-GA out. Also, when you pick a medical school track record of residencies in the past for the school should be given priority along with the "pass rate". This is an advice given to me by several well established physicians. Hey, I beleive them they have been there and they are all very successful. Not that I am saying that PCOM-GA is bad. I cannot say that it is bad or good......it has no track record as yet to give an opinion. It will someday...but right now??????
When you apply for residencies you will be asked which PCOM did you attend? GA or Philly? Won't they?
Perhaps some GA-PCOM students could elaborate but I thought that the campus just finalized 5 rotation sites?
 
you cannot go before the COCA accrediting board without established rotations. We just had our visit 2 weeks ago.

B-


Tallulah said:
Perhaps some GA-PCOM students could elaborate but I thought that the campus just finalized 5 rotation sites?
 
I'm a first year at GA-PCOM, and obviously I'm partial to my school. I'm with BMW as far as being confused concerning the basis for "thrown together" facilities. I'm extremely satisfied with our facilities as they are top of the line. I like to think that I, much like Robert Frost, have "taken the road less traveled by and it has made all the difference." If you're concerned with a school that is already established, I would go with NSU, it's a great school with a great reputation. If you're more of a delayed gratification person and would like to wait for a bigger pay out when it comes residency time, then you might consider GA-PCOM. Either way, you should weigh the overall risks versus benefits for each, and go with whomever you would be most comfortable entrusting your education.

rack said:
...but nsu will probably make your genitals more happy.
...only if the Golden Girls are your type. Average age of Ft. Lauderdale hotties: 95.
 
Drugtech said:
Average age of Ft. Lauderdale hotties: 95.


so sad! 🙁 🙁 🙁


guess us boys at NSU are going to have lots of road trips down to miami then 😉
 
Actually, let's be realistic its more like 75 (not quite as bad!)

BMW-

gottalovemilk said:
so sad! 🙁 🙁 🙁


guess us boys at NSU are going to have lots of road trips down to miami then 😉
 
Drugtech said:
I'm a first year at GA-PCOM, and obviously I'm partial to my school. I'm with BMW as far as being confused concerning the basis for "thrown together" facilities. I'm extremely satisfied with our facilities as they are top of the line. I like to think that I, much like Robert Frost, have "taken the road less traveled by and it has made all the difference." If you're concerned with a school that is already established, I would go with NSU, it's a great school with a great reputation. If you're more of a delayed gratification person and would like to wait for a bigger pay out when it comes residency time, then you might consider GA-PCOM. Either way, you should weigh the overall risks versus benefits for each, and go with whomever you would be most comfortable entrusting your education.

...only if the Golden Girls are your type. Average age of Ft. Lauderdale hotties: 95.

Why do you feel that it will be better to get into a residency program by going to Ga-PCOM?
 
This is directed to those students attending or have interviewed at GA-PCOM. I have an interview coming up, I wanted to know what to expect? Can anyone be of assistance.
 
ooh...i missed the "thrown together" facilities part....did hte person who posted that common visit the school, b/c that is the LAST thing anyone would say about the school...even if you were fishing for insults, it would be hard to knock the facilities...they are INCREDIBLE! especially compared to a couple of the more "established" medical schools in Georgia...


Drugtech said:
I'm a first year at GA-PCOM, and obviously I'm partial to my school. I'm with BMW as far as being confused concerning the basis for "thrown together" facilities. I'm extremely satisfied with our facilities as they are top of the line. I like to think that I, much like Robert Frost, have "taken the road less traveled by and it has made all the difference." If you're concerned with a school that is already established, I would go with NSU, it's a great school with a great reputation. If you're more of a delayed gratification person and would like to wait for a bigger pay out when it comes residency time, then you might consider GA-PCOM. Either way, you should weigh the overall risks versus benefits for each, and go with whomever you would be most comfortable entrusting your education
 
Mikhail31 said:
This is directed to those students attending or have interviewed at GA-PCOM. I have an interview coming up, I wanted to know what to expect? Can anyone be of assistance.

I had an interview in early February. It was real easy going and everyone was super nice. They asked me a lot of questions specific to my file...why I did certain classes at which schools....why my grades went up...etc. Then just the basics like why I wanted to be a doctor, and why did I want to be a D.O. They didn't really ask me too many questions, they actually gave me more time to ask them questions. It was pretty straight foward so don't worry too much. Check out the interview section as well, it will help. I just got my acceptance letter yesterday so I am pretty excited. I was really impressed with the school and all the people there. Good Luck! Hope this helped. 🙂
 
gottalovemilk said:
so sad! 🙁 🙁 🙁


guess us boys at NSU are going to have lots of road trips down to miami then 😉
There's always us hot girls in the class above you, in the other schools, etc. There are plenty of girls around if that is what you are looking for. I doubt that there are any single guys in your class who don't want to be single.
 
I'm actually not sure why that posted x3, sorry about that. Maybe it has to do with my school's "thrown together" facilities :laugh: I kid, I kid.
 
BMW19 said:
Why don't you read the posts carefully before you post like a Jacka$$ and say I have no idea what I am talking about. I based my statements off of two things:

1) I interviewed at NOVA, and they said that you do wear a shirt and tie to class. I am only going off of what YOUR admin. told me at my interview.

2) If you read the original posters first post, you will see that he liked that the students looked professional in SUITS!! I didn't even say suits he did.

Learn not to get offensive on these forums before YOU know what you are talking about.

Remember people he asked US about our school and how it compares to NSU and we are simply giving our opinions.

BMW-

first off i didn't call you any juvenile names like JackA$$ so check yourself. second, if you would have talked to any student like most interview candidates you would realize how lax the policies are. bottom line, for the 10th time, NSU over Ga-PCOM any day unless you are concerned about money. Now if you say NSU vs. PCOM, that's a different story. i'd give it to PCOM on that one. I'm sure you guys have great facilities and are all motivated because you are the first class, but please be realistic in knowing that it WILL be harder for you in the end. Not to say you won't get an amazing residency, it will just require more work from you.

And on a side note.........come to ft. lauderdale beach and if your jaw doesn't become dislocated then your school/city must be filled with supermodels.
 
Mikhail31 said:
This is directed to those students attending or have interviewed at GA-PCOM. I have an interview coming up, I wanted to know what to expect? Can anyone be of assistance.

I interviewed in the beginning of Jan. The interview itself went really smoothly for me - except that the first interview question they asked me was what made me mad....that really threw me off! They basically told me my file was self explanatory and then we discussed the normal stuff. It was very relaxed and everyone was really nice. Very conversational. We ended up talking about cars and hiking and all kinds of things. I really enjoyed it down there.

The only thing I'd have to say about the interview is be prepared to sit in one chair for basically the entire day. My interview was scheduled for 11 - I believe - and our day started at like 8:30 I think.....we had breakfast with Aisha for like 30-45 min and the interviews started at either 9 or 9:30. Once interviews start, all you do is sit in one room and chat with other interviewers until you interview. There are no formal presentation on financial aid or housing or anything. Students and professors drop by occassionally to talk with you and let you ask questions about the school. Then once everyone is done interviewing (for me there were 6 of us) -- around 12:30 you go on a quick tour of the building and that's it. Good LUck!
 
Dude,

I agree with Box29. 👍 👍
It's all about you. I think match list doesn't tell much about the school. It may give you a hint that if you really work hard, you can be like them. Clinical years are important. Ask each school about it to see if the arrangement is fit for you. In some schools, you have to move around, in others, you don't have to.

I got accepted to NSU. I was impressed by the school. The Dean was really awesome. One thing that bothers me is the attendance. Nowadays, we can download the lecture and view it on the computer. If the professor is really boring, I rather sleep at home and then study later. Other than that, no complain.

Good luck on your decision.

box29 said:
There have been some interesting comments on this thread that share commonalities with interviewing candidates at Touro-Nevada. Many people are ultimately concerned with new programs. I think it's normal but at the same time, most of these new schools are based on the foundation of their parent institution which includes the curriculum. Sure the parent institution may have great match lists and sure other older schools have great match lists too. It can be impressive when deciding about a school but that doesn't mean a candidate, upon entering the match, will get a great residency. There are many factors that play into matching at a program, let alone a "great" program. I think a student would be slightly foolish in deciding to attend one school over another based on previous match lists. There have been many people from lower tiered med schools or schools that don't have a great reputation that match into competitive fields and programs. I don't know the numbers or stats so don't ask...and some may think I'm only saying this because I go to a new school too... People are entitled to their opinions as I am but I think the effort one puts forth in med school - through grades, board scores, LORs, extracurriculars, etc. will ultimately speak for itself, in addition to nailing those residency interviews.

As for the NAME of the school, PDs will see that on the ERAS application along with all the lovely stats. What one must take into consideration is that the student is essentially interviewing for a "job" or the first part of their chosen career path for lack of better word. Just look through all the residency forum discussions and all the questions that are asked about getting into such and such program.

What I think is really important for the candidate is to decide if he/she feels good about the school and it's location. Happiness is something that one shouldn't necessarily sacrifice. If you absolutely hated the school and it's surroundings, one may find him-/herself dreading waking up in the AM to get up and go to class in a place he/she absolutely detests. That would make a long 4 years (or 2) which may adversely affect school performance.

Clinical rotations are up there in importance as well. I think all candidates should be asking about this. Academics during the first 2 years are just that...anatomy is anatomy is anatomy...I think no matter where one goes, they would get a solid BASE foundation upon which he/she will build to prepare for the boards. Board scores are an evaluation of the individual student. One could go to a school that has 98%-99% pass rate...and that's great...but is that going to guarantee that he/she will pass? Maybe or maybe not. I really think it is up to the individual student in getting those scores. The school is not going to take the boards for any student...duh. Additionally, pass rates are great but does one just want a passing score of 400 on the COMLEX? So, IMO, boards are more of an individual assessment.

All of these older med schools were new at one point or another. All these concerns were brought up back then too. Have any of those programs failed and closed their doors? I think it's okay to be cautious but if it really bothers someone, then why bother to apply to the program? Save that money for something else.

Lastly, just because a school is new doesn't necessarily mean it could be easier to get into. The first year or two, maybe, but as more application cycles pass, the more standards may rise. I'll give my school, Touro-Nevada, as an example...the minimum MCAT requirement is 23.

Just my $0.02

To the OP: good luck with your decision...you'll get a good medical education either way.
 
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