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I think he and the publisher will just have a ghost writer novelize what we saw that that'll be the end of it. They're already looking forward to the spinoffs.
 
Thank God that episode wasn't filmed in Alabama...
 
GonnaBeADoc2222 said:
I thought the finale was a dumpster fire - same with the rest of season 7 and 8.

Truly disappointed, especially after reading books 1-5 which were awesome.

Hopefully Martin salvages the story if he ever gets around to releasing the final two books.
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Oh sweet summer child...
 
Mods, spoiler tag on the title maybe?

And yeah -- so disappointed.
 
I honestly wasn't disappointed at all. Huge fan of the books, huge fan of the show. This past season was a bit rushed, but overall I didn't hate the end. Wasn't how I would have ended it all, but I liked the direction it went. I just wish they would have fleshed some backstory out more.
 
Considering how the rest of Season 8 was, I wasn't disappointed by the series finale at all. It felt like GOT for the first time in this season.
 
Statistically, there's a high likelihood at least one person involved in the making of Game Of Thrones had an emergency medical condition at some point in their lives.

See? There. I turned this thread around. Move-proofed now.
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I've not watched a single GOT episode. People have raved so much about this show, I was recently this close to going back to season 1, episode 1 and giving the show a try at binge watching to get caught up so I could watch season 8 with everyone else in real time. After all the complaining about this season and the finale, there's no point in me watching any. I'd be too obsessed with looking for Starbucks cups and plastic water bottles in the scene backgrounds to enjoy it.
 
Birdstrike said:
I'd be too obsessed with looking for Starbucks cups and plastic water bottles in the scene backgrounds to enjoy it.
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Also laptop power packs running moulage blood pumps.

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I stopped watching after season 2. I saw this coming, a convoluted morass of plot-lines that would only end up in a big let-down. I may watch the rest someday... but from the sounds of it maybe not.
 
I wonder if the books are better?


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Groove said:
I worked a swing shift last night and watched it when I got home around midnight. What a garbage ending to a great series. This last season was a total let down. I'm glad I don't have to watch any more of these.
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That was my thought also. "Oh, good, one less thing to monopolize my time." Still annoyed.
 
Got season 1 didn't like. WAY too confusing and too many names and too many groups
GOT season 2-6 was really good. Really good
GOT season 7 was good, but not as good as 2-6
Got 8 was good to begin with. The last 2 episodes were RUSHED. The last show was Super Rushed. They should have made he last show into 3 episodes, there was so much to clean up/tie together.

Ending could have been better, not terrible, but rushed.

SPOILER.

They essentially Gave D a quick ending which should have been more complex
They gave JS a quick ending and he should have had more of a say in his fate
They gave the Broken an ending that should have been more of a discussion.

Just way to fast, fast, fast.
 
The books are amazing. Lots of characters and lots of geography to cover but they give you all the house lineages and maps of the world in the appendix.
 
Anyone aware of the similarities to Norse mythology? There’s a neat blog that someone authored several years ago that spells out all the similarities. Spoiler: it’s a pretty spot on allegory for Ragnarok. Further spoiler: Loki wins as GRRM’s twist on the tale (Bran isn’t as good as he seems - not evil, especially considering the alternatives, but certainly not without his own desires despite what he says). If you view it in that light, it’s really not half bad.
 
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TimesNewRoman said:
Waiting for the mods to move this to a different forum since it’s off topic, since that’s what we do now.
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Hardly. Everything in here has been on topic to the original post. And since this isn't likely to inspire flame wars like a political discussion, there's not much to change it. However, if you really want me to, I can move it.
 
Dr.McNinja said:
Hardly. Everything in here has been on topic to the original post. And since this isn't likely to inspire flame wars like a political discussion, there's not much to change it. However, if you really want me to, I can move it.
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I was just busting your balls.
 
I’ve probably seen almost 1000 got memes this season and this is by far and away the best:



I’m kinda glad season 8 was the way it was because of the memes.
 
We binged it during season 6, and have stayed up with it. (Although honestly, the stuck in Meereen, faceless girl times were more than painfully long.) I also couldn't watch the finale in real time as I had a couple of overnights, so avoided spoilers as best I could and got around to it last night.

Honestly, as much as people were dumping on it, I was pleasantly surprised. Maybe I had low expectations, though. I'm just glad Ghost got his dad back.
 
Renaissance Man said:
I read 4/5 books and IMO no...I love fantasy and find GRRM book's very hard to read and enjoy.
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Yes, exactly this. The universe that he created is brilliant and entertaining, but the actual writing is dense and long-winded. Every sentence is a run-on and the syntax is just not very readable.

This is one of the few times that the production >> novel.
 
Glad to kon
Jabbed said:
Yes, exactly this. The universe that he created is brilliant and entertaining, but the actual writing is dense and long-winded. Every sentence is a run-on and the syntax is just not very readable.

This is one of the few times that the production >> novel.
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Glad to know. I am glad I can keep my fictional count right at one.
 
gamerEMdoc said:
If you haven't watched the show, I'd definitely recommend reading the books first. My favorite book series of all time. Nothing else comes close.
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Have you read the Wheel of Time series? I loved ASoIAF, but WoT was exceptional. It’s a 14 book series but man is it epic. It’s also being turned into a tv show now.
 
LostinLift said:
Have you read the Wheel of Time series? I loved ASoIAF, but WoT was exceptional. It’s a 14 book series but man is it epic. It’s also being turned into a tv show now.
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I've considered the WoT series, but I'm not sure I'll enjoy it. I'm a relatively new fantasy reader, ASOIAF was the first fantasy series I ever read. I've tried reading several more, usually quiting after the first book in a bunch of series. I like medieval settings. I'm not a huge fan of magic. I really like the political battles mostly. I'm more of a fan of it being dark. I like series that follow multiple characters, not one. ASOIAF was perfect for what I like reading and I haven't found anything else that really fits that niche.

Just started the first law series. So far its enjoyable.
 
LostinLift said:
Have you read the Wheel of Time series? I loved ASoIAF, but WoT was exceptional. It’s a 14 book series but man is it epic. It’s also being turned into a tv show now.
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WoT books are painfully detailed. I stress painfully. I couldn't get through more than 2 of them. For every bit meaningful dialogue, character development or background detail, there will be an equally lengthy tangent on something like exactly what the pastry someone is eating looked like, where precisely every crumb fell and how the character thought about the distribution of said crumbs.

You could cut 200 pages from each book and lose literally nothing of importance. Maybe it gets better after Sanderson took over writing. That said, I'd far sooner recommend that someone just read his books (Mistborn and Stormlight archive are excellent) or the first law series by Abercrombie that @gamerEMdoc mentioned above.
 
BoardingDoc said:
WoT books are painfully detailed. I stress painfully. I couldn't get through more than 2 of them. For every bit meaningful dialogue, character development or background detail, there will be an equally lengthy tangent on something like exactly what the pastry someone is eating looked like, where precisely every crumb fell and how the character thought about the distribution of said crumbs.

You could cut 200 pages from each book and lose literally nothing of importance. Maybe it gets better after Sanderson took over writing. That said, I'd far sooner recommend that someone just read his books (Mistborn and Stormlight archive are excellent) or the first law series by Abercrombie that @gamerEMdoc mentioned above.
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Some of it is overkill (Jordan very obviously has a thing for silk embroidery), but much of the detail helped me get fully immersed in the world. I mean, the first chapter talks in great detail about the exact feel of the wind through the trees while they're walking into town. I loved it personally.

Sanderson does cut down on that, but you also lose the feel of the characters a little bit. He admits that it got better as he wrote more books but you can tell a big difference in the first one he did.

Loved Mistborn and Stormlight, although the first exactly 50% of the first Stormlight was painful to get through the first time. On re-read its better.
 
gamerEMdoc said:
I quit reading stormlight 1/2 way through the first book. It was painfully boring.
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VA Hopeful is right. Stormlight definitely takes too long to get into it, but it gets really good about halfway through. I felt like Mistborn was good from the get go including some of the spin off/same universe books like alloy of law.
 
BoardingDoc said:
VA Hopeful is right. Stormlight definitely takes too long to get into it, but it gets really good about halfway through. I felt like Mistborn was good from the get go including some of the spin off/same universe books like alloy of law.
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You know that alloy of law is the intro to a 2nd Mistborn trilogy right?

And beyond that, all of his books take place in the same universe with some characters making appearances in multiple series.
 
Not that anyone really asked but I highly recommend The Lightbringer Series by Brent Weeks (about to be concluded with 5th book this fall) and Harry Dresden Series by Jim Butcher. The Warded Man is the first book in a series which I also loved, although not as much as future books the series. Finally one of my top 5 books of all time is Blood Song by Anthony Ryan, it is again the first book in a trilogy which completely slid off rails in books 2 and 3.

Also I wish Patrick Rothfuss tried to write or give a damn, that is all.
 
Man, I had no idea we had so many fantasy readers.

Wheel of Time is extremely descriptive prose. I'm not a huge fan of Robert Jordan's style, but the series is really popular. I'm a big R.A. Salvatore fan. The Dark Elf trilogy has got to be one of my all time favorites. Great characters, dark themes and lots of action. I've read almost all of the Drizzt novels. Sword of Truth series by Terry Goodkind is another good one, as well as David Eddings "Belgariad". Most of these books I read growing up and before med school. I've had little time to read leisure fantasy since then but this thread makes me want to dust off one of my old books and read them. I've got tons of Forgotten Realms and Dragonlance novels. I was half-way through one of the Sword of Shannara books after watching the surprisingly good t.v. series that went for 2 seasons. I put it down a few weeks ago though and haven't picked it back up.

If you dig neo-noir cyberpunk sci-fi novels, give Richard Morgan's "Takeshi Kovacs" novels a try. (Altered Carbon, Broken Angels, Woken Furies). Badass series. They made it into a t.v. series on Netflix I believe but I was unfortunately super disappointed after watching 1 or 2 episodes as it's not really reflective of the books IMO, or the protagonist.
 
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The whole final season was rushed and it would have been better as 10 episodes or even 2 seasons. Game of thrones was at its best when it was taking its time, diving deep into the interactions between characters. That's why IMO the best episodes this season were 1, 2, and the first half of 4, though the battle of Winterfell was also incredible.

That being said, I actually loved the first half of the ending, and thought it was great up until the cut to black after Drogon leaves. Tyrion-Jon and Jon-Dany scenes were excellent. However, The whole council scene where random group appoints Bran king because he has a good story (when did he become Bran again), lets the North secede (what about Dorne or the Iron Islands), etc. was a hot mess. In a show about rival houses leveraging circumstance and alliances to increase their own power (i.e. the game of thrones), suddenly all the houses just sit back and appoint a king without negotiations or thought for self gain? Sounds about right.
 
Groove said:
Man, I had no idea we had so many fantasy readers.

Wheel of Time is extremely descriptive prose. I'm not a huge fan of Robert Jordan's style, but the series is really popular. I'm a big R.A. Salvatore fan. The Dark Elf trilogy has got to be one of my all time favorites. Great characters, dark themes and lots of action. I've read almost all of the Drizzt novels. Sword of Truth series by Terry Goodkind is another good one, as well as David Eddings "Belgariad". Most of these books I read growing up and before med school. I've had little time to read leisure fantasy since then but this thread makes me want to dust off one of my old books and read them. I've got tons of Forgotten Realms and Dragonlance novels. I was half-way through one of the Sword of Shannara books after watching the surprisingly good t.v. series that went for 2 seasons. I put it down a few weeks ago though and haven't picked it back up.

If you dig neo-noir cyberpunk sci-fi novels, give Richard Morgan's "Takeshi Kovacs" novels a try. (Altered Carbon, Broken Angels, Woken Furies). Badass series. They made it into a t.v. series on Netflix I believe but I was unfortunately super disappointed after watching 1 or 2 episodes as it's not really reflective of the books IMO, or the protagonist.
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Altered carbon was great. Haven't gone into any of the followups yet. If you like that, you may also like stuff by Neil Stephenson. Snow Crash is a little technologically dated now, but a fantastic read. As is The Diamond Age
 
VA Hopeful Dr said:
You know that alloy of law is the intro to a 2nd Mistborn trilogy right?

And beyond that, all of his books take place in the same universe with some characters making appearances in multiple series.
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Yep! All part of cosmere. That said, there's pretty limited crossover between worlds. I just happen to be partial to Scadrial where the mistborn books (and subsequently the wax and wayne books) take place.
 
BoardingDoc said:
WoT books are painfully detailed. I stress painfully. I couldn't get through more than 2 of them. For every bit meaningful dialogue, character development or background detail, there will be an equally lengthy tangent on something like exactly what the pastry someone is eating looked like, where precisely every crumb fell and how the character thought about the distribution of said crumbs.

You could cut 200 pages from each book and lose literally nothing of importance. Maybe it gets better after Sanderson took over writing. That said, I'd far sooner recommend that someone just read his books (Mistborn and Stormlight archive are excellent) or the first law series by Abercrombie that @gamerEMdoc mentioned above.
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That’s a shame, because the books get exponentionally better as the story evolves. I will admit some of the details feel superfluous and I speed read through some parts. But as @VA Hopeful Dr said above, overall, those details set it apart from most other books so that every other story feels lacking in detail. I know the ~8 main characters better than almost any other character in any series. I know what the Two Rivers looked and felt like in the beginning, middle, and end of the series. I have such a rich picture of that entire world in my mind’s eye. The story is fantastic and you will most likely really connect with and enjoy at least one of the characters, if not several.

But yes, it’s a huge time commitment for all that detail. Worth it in my mind! So much so that I re read all 14 recently (with some more skimming this time) Gonna give some of these other books mentioned here a shot.
 
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