gastroentrology training and fracp exam in Aus

[super67]

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Hi,
Can any one from Aus guide me? I am an American Board certified in internal medicine and Board certified in geriatric medicine. I am interested in gastroenterology training in Aus and also interested to appear in FRACP exam there next year.
Really appreciate.

 

[redshifteffect]

Hi,
Can any one from Aus guide me? I am an American Board certified in internal medicine and Board certified in geriatric medicine. I am interested in gastroenterology training in Aus and also interested to appear in FRACP exam there next year.
Really appreciate.

Sitting the FRACP exam will basically allow you to bypass your "basic physician training". I'm assuming that by allowing you to sit it they recognise your training enough to at least sit the FRACP exam.

The difficult part would be what happens after you pass the exam. If they require you to complete all or part of your Gastroenterology training that could be a problem. It's a very competitive field and difficult to get into an advanced training positions in most large metropolitan hospitals, especially since priority would go to locals first (I'm guessing you are not a PR or Citizen of Australia?).

You would be better off finding out directly from the FRACP what would happen once you pass the exam as they would be much more knowledgeable about this particular situation then anyone here on this forum.

 

[jaketheory]

Sitting the FRACP exam will basically allow you to bypass your "basic physician training". I'm assuming that by allowing you to sit it they recognise your training enough to at least sit the FRACP exam.

actually, the RACP website states specifically overseas traind docs cannot enter directly into advanced physician training. you will need to do at least one year of basic training in Aus. If you were already fully qualified in GI, this would not be the case; however, since you are looking to train in GI there, such is.

The difficult part would be what happens after you pass the exam. If they require you to complete all or part of your Gastroenterology training that could be a problem. It's a very competitive field and difficult to get into an advanced training positions in most large metropolitan hospitals, especially since priority would go to locals first (I'm guessing you are not a PR or Citizen of Australia?).

the OP is looking to train in GI in Aus, thus he will obviously have to complete "part or all" of GI training.

to the OP, you realize training in GI in Aus will not lead to board certification in GI in the US, right? If you were to return to the US and pursue GI, you'd have to repeat all GI training (complete entire US GI fellowship).

 

[nondentist]

Here is what you need to do: I can perfectly understand why you want to do Gastro tarning in Australia, because I am more or less in same situation as yours.
1) Basic Physician Training: it is normally three years. However I am sure you will get exempted upto maximum of 2 years , but still you need to do atleaset one eyar of BPT. But you can take the FRACP exams right away ( if you get exempted for 2 years of training). FRACP exams are quiet difficult!
2) Then you need to apply for Gastro advanced training. Generally it is very competitive. During your 1 year BPT you should aim to get a rotation in gastro, develop some rapport with attendings, do some research. If you have some Gastro training ( either research PhD or clinical training) , you may be exempted for a maximum of 1 year).
3) Once you have done your Gastro training here, then you can apply for some fellowship in USA. As you are already board certified in US, things are a bit easy for oyu.

 

[jaketheory]

2) Then you need to apply for Gastro advanced training. Generally it is very competitive. During your 1 year BPT you should aim to get a rotation in gastro, develop some rapport with attendings, do some research. If you have some Gastro training ( either research PhD or clinical training) , you may be exempted for a maximum of 1 year).

unless you've already started some GI training program, don't expect to get exempted based on any clinical training in GI. You won't be able to double count any GI rotation completed during your IM residency towards both BPT and APT.

3) Once you have done your Gastro training here, then you can apply for some fellowship in USA. As you are already board certified in US, things are a bit easy for oyu.

what kind of fellowship are you talking about here? Are you suggesting s/he double train in GI in both and Aus and the US. Thats 4 years in Aus (or 3 if s/he can exempt a year) plus another 3 years in the US. Why would someone do that? Pick where you want to practice, train there, and then make bank. You'd be sacrifice lots of money and a lot of your life to repeat training. Why?

 

[nondentist]

You got me wrong, probably because of my poor English.
1) I am doing my BPT now. I also did PhD in Gastroenterology. So they exempted 2 years of BPT because of my previous clinical experience in Australia and overseas (not for PhD). Part of this assessment I have submitted my Phd too. Then they told me I better use this PhD for advanced training which can get me 1 year exemption form Advanced training in Gastro, even if it is retrospective ( of course provided I enroll into advanced gastro training). I was very happy about that , as I wasn't expecting this at all.
2) I am talking about advanced fellowships in subspecialties of gastroenterology( like hepatlogy etc) and not gastro fellowship! If he does his GI training here it is not recognized in US. So there are only two options to work as a gastroenterologist in US one is to do subspecialty fellowship in US ( for 1 or 2 years) or else find some hospital which can make him as an attending( in this case he can practice GI only in that particular hospital and NOT out side that institution, that means no private practice.